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    Quote Originally Posted by Project_Mayhem View Post
    Around 3/4 definitely isn't a certainty. Is this all that we're condemning IP on?
    I'm saying 1/4 is enough to keep him alive until we have better intel...

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    Yes, agreed I think. Purely statistically, to do otherwise would be foolish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarra View Post
    It seems odd to me that if IP was confirmed to not be the seer two nights ago, that no one in the 'network' would have come out about it yesterday when there were all the calls to contest his claim.

    I figure we have two options here -

    1. We lynch IP. He is either the seer or a wolf or villager that claimed seer to save himself. If he's a wolf or villager, we've confirmed the other network's legitimacy. If he's the seer...well crap, we just lost a really important role.

    2. We lynch Razover. He is either a wolf or villager. If he is a wolf, we confirm IP's role as seer and disprove his network's legitimacy. If he's a villager, we confirm the network's legitimacy....all with no risk of possibly killing the seer.

    I say we lynch Razover, because at worst, we would lose a villager, and at best, a wolf. And if he turns out to be a villager, then we can lynch IP next, knowing that Ramsus was telling the truth.
    I was going to point at Ghanz, for what I believed to be an ill sense of logic, but then I noted that Alarra has a very good point, in what I've been able to read from the past two days of posting, so for now, I'll have to take my chances with Razover
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    Change to razovor.
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    Razovor does seem the most logical target at this point, stemming from Alarra's evidence.

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    well this is an interesting turn-around...

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    *sigh* Yes, listen to the wolves telling you to wait for better intel. Because you're gonna get better intel than two people in the villager network claiming a Seer claim that doesn't know how scrying works isn't a Seer. *rolls eyes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsus View Post
    *sigh* Yes, listen to the wolves telling you to wait for better intel. Because you're gonna get better intel than two people in the villager network claiming a Seer claim that doesn't know how scrying works isn't a Seer. *rolls eyes*
    We don't exactly have any reason to trust your "Villager Network".

    EDIT: Even if IP does turn out to be a wolf theres really no differnce in lynching him today or tommorow. He's not doing any more harm than you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horoar View Post
    We don't exactly have any reason to trust your "Villager Network".

    EDIT: Even if IP does turn out to be a wolf theres really no differnce in lynching him today or tommorow. He's not doing any more harm than you are.
    Unless he's the Devil.

    Edit: After this next lynch either way everyone will have a reason to trust our network though. You're just trying to get one more villager kill out of this.
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    Screw it. One dies today, the other tomorrow if the first one isn't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsus View Post
    Unless he's the Devil.

    Edit: After this next lynch either way everyone will have a reason to trust our network though. You're just trying to get one more villager kill out of this.

    We'll see If you're right. If you lead us to a wolf you'll be good in my books.

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    Razovor for now.

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    Anyone know how much longer we've got till night?

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    *Reads all of the day in about 5 minutes, possibly missing something.*

    Ugh, still no confirmation either way? (I'm sorry, a seer proxy may seem like enough, but better proof is in getting us a wolf. That's the only way to trust you for certain) Circumstances as they are, I'm voting for razovor. Hopefully tomorrow gives us confirmation.

    EDIT: Sometimes even getting a wolf isn't even enough, however it is certainly better then having a random person come out of nowhere.
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    Well, that was a fast turn-around.

    Okay, i guess i'll take the lynch, for the good of the team. Razovor

    I'd like to apply for auto-lynch replacement.
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    I guess those are all good points. razovor
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    Well, since everyone, including razovor, has already decided...

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    I don't like it, but if Razovor can come back on the autolynch replacement list later, no harm done, i suppose.
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    i'll abstain from voting today, i dont think we should vote imperial psycho, but just because Ravozor doesnt trust him doesnt mean either of them are wolves. a vote on anyone else would be irrelevant at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsus View Post
    Unless he's the Devil.

    Edit: After this next lynch either way everyone will have a reason to trust our network though. You're just trying to get one more villager kill out of this.
    But he can't be the devil according to you because, as you say, he doesn't know the seer rules.

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    If razorvor's part of a villager network, doesn't that preclude being an autolynch replacement? I thought the replacements weren't supposed to have any information from outside the thread. Do PMs/seer networks count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annon View Post
    If razorvor's part of a villager network, doesn't that preclude being an autolynch replacement? I thought the replacements weren't supposed to have any information from outside the thread. Do PMs/seer networks count?
    Yes, they do. As such, razovor will not be eligible as an autolynch replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangeban View Post
    But he can't be the devil according to you because, as you say, he doesn't know the seer rules.
    If I recall correctly it specifically mentions that the Devil gets more specifics on his scry than the Seer/Fool do.

    Edit: Also if he's a more experienced player (I wouldn't know either way) then he would know how it works anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir View Post
    Yes, they do. As such, razovor will not be eligible as an autolynch replacement.
    Okay, i'll just watch then.

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    I'm not sure that

    "To be X you must know the rules of X
    You do not know the rules of X
    therefore you are not X"

    Is valid reasoning.

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    Must? No. Should. Yes. Especially if you're going to use it as part of an argument for why someone claiming you're a wolf is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsus View Post
    Must? No. Should. Yes. Especially if you're going to use it as part of an argument for why someone claiming you're a wolf is wrong.
    Come to think of it what was his problem with the rules?

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    He claimed the Fool could scry a villager or wolf and get Seer/Fool. That would be incorrect to my knowledge.

    Edit:
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    Being the fool, can he scry a villager/wolf as seer/fool?
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    If I were a wolf impersonating a seer I would look up the rules.
    Not knowing them just makes one incompetent.

    EDIT:I don't know if the fool can scry villagers or wolves as fools, but that doesn't make me a wolf either.
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    Seems our supposed ‘saviour’ may have been hoodwinking us, sir. We have someone claiming to have spoken to the true seer, and that this first one is a charlatan, and a werewolf to boot.
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    “There was some group of trusted confederates?”
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