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Thread: Why are people afraid of death?
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2018-03-13, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
The biggest concern I have with population growth is human psychological health. Human megacities are like beehives, where few people have the chance to experience Nature whether rurally or as a preserve. But, why not ask Tokyoites to see if people like it there?
Other than that, the resource problem is lickable, and the more educated minds we have the larger our capacity for innovation to solve present and future problems.
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2018-03-13, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
A fine display of pessimism. But, you haven't been paying attention: I'm not talking about increasing actual population density, I'm talking about increasing potential population density, as a measure of our resilience and power projection into the Universe. Yes, this means developing fusion, and whatever lies beyond fusion. This will ensure our standard of living can continue to improve, even for those inconvenient people in the tropics who must be overjoyed at the prospect of having to choose between drug refrigerators and air conditioning because of the ecology nuts' insistence on energy conservation. 'Cause polar bears'n'crap.
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2018-03-16, 04:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
No. Itīs simply realism to realize where we're standing right now, what happens around us, measure our impact and footprint and act accordingly, because we have evolved to the point that we begin to see the big picture and this still includes us being a part of the natural world around us.
What we destroy is gone, never to come back, with no chance to recreate it. We do not get some kind of loan or venture capital for it, there is no deal that we overextend/overconsume now but will make it up once we have fusion and can conduct asteroid mining. That's not how it works.
We have fallen into the predator dilemma and will soon start to suffer from it, where soon is dependent on how efficient we are getting at delaying it.
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2018-03-16, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
The same reason ocean depths, or the dark, or an alien species would be terrifying for a lot of people - the unknown. Not to mention, it's in your DNA to want to live under any circumstance for as long as possible.
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2018-04-02, 01:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
I am not afraid of my own death, but i am afraid that it will happen to my loved ones some of them before than me, and that fear is only because the great pain i'll suffer for that loss.
There is nothing scary in death, either there is something behind the veil or not, you won't suffer anymore and If i am right there will be perfect and timeless love. I, however, like i said before in the thread, am afraid of the pain, illness and lack of dignity that can happen before death.
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2018-05-06, 05:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
I think of it this way: People aren't afraid of death, they're afraid of the unknown. Although you can believe what you wish, no one actually knows what happens after you die.
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2018-05-06, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
I'll expand on this further.
People are afraid of the unknown, and stone people are afraid of sudden radical change. Death combines both, there's the possibility of one of the most radical changes possible that happens in an instant, and we have no way of seeing what's on the other side with any degree of accuracy.
Okay, time to go deeper while keeping clear of problematic topics.
As far as I can tell there are roughly four ways people deal with this. 'Life continues after death', 'I have not existed for longer than I have existed', 'I have no choice but to believe that I have no choice, so worrying is pointless', and 'live life to it's fullest, leave no regrets'. For some people these ways work perfectly, for others they don't take away the fact that we can't know. At this point it's not even knowing accurately, we don't have a way to revive the dead[sup] citation needed [/blue] and so we can't know at all. We're not even entirely sure of the dividing line between 'nearly dead' and 'corpse'. At the same time we have spent so long as a species trying to push back death, is it really something we consider good even if it is natural? There are logical reasons for death on a macroscopic scale, otherwise three planet would be overrun. But on both the personal and the societal scale we seem to desire to push death back.
For many people death is fine until it comes to them or their loved ones.
Now there are two 'memes' in society, pro-immortality and anti-immortality. At this point the anti side is certainly louder, but I wouldn't say that means they're larger. I'm also somewhat jealous of those five with death, I have enough sleepless nights already.
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2019-05-16, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
It's a fact that everyone is going to die one day, whya re people so afraid of it?
it's like being afraid that the sky is blue, it just is, there is nothing you can do about it.
I really don't get what the fuss is all about.
Death and mortality are, and have been for as long as I remember, my greatest obsession.
The thing that troubles me the most is a difficult concept to expose. I barely grasp it myself.
I can't conceive the "sensation" of not existence. I know, rationally, there is no sensation in death but our life is perceived as a more or less uninterrupted flux of coscience. It's pretty unconciveable the idea of "prolonged absence of sensation and tought". Personally, I find the idea terrifying.
As an atheist and materialist, I don't believe in afterlife. It's not a simple opinion, it's a certainity ( I cannot, obviously, provide evidence for this ). So death is the end of everything, the ruin of your personal world. Since universe cannot be directly related to ( we just use our perception to interact on some level with our surroundings ), death is like the end of your personal universe. Everything that you felt, experiencet, researched, fought for, everything is fated to crumble in dust.
Death has no respect for love, affection, ambition, dream. It devours everything and plunder human life in futility. Even worse, it's a shadow that constantly lingers over humanity, therefore the need so many people feel to immortalize somehow their brief life, trying to achieve some kind of permanence in the memories of their children and loved ones. Yet even those will die, one day, and even memory will fade.
So, people are afraid of death because death is the quintessential incarnation of fear.
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2019-05-16, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
Worse than that, for your own purposes its equivalent to being erased retroactively (unless either eternalism, eternal return, or the many-worlds theory is correct)
I think a better (although still fleeting in the face of eternity) way would be to keep detailed journals and save up money to have them transferred to HD Rosetta. And also have your body plastinatedLast edited by Bohandas; 2019-05-16 at 08:20 PM.
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2019-05-16, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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"You... little... *****. It's what my old man called me, it's like it was my name, and I proved him right, by killing all the wrong people. [And], I love ya Henry, and I'll never call you anything but your name, but you gotta decide; are you gonna lay there, swallow that blood in your mouth, or are you gonna stand up, spit it out, and go spill theirs?" - Unknown
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2019-05-16, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are people afraid of death?
Clearly people aren't afraid of letting dead threads not stay there, though.
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2019-05-16, 10:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sheriff: Thread necromancy is disfavored on this Forum.