BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup

[Draken]

I could say "work on his hands" but there are none to work on.

[The Librarian]

Mary Sue=Very Bad.

I'd like a little more description of the Bankai then "it destroys everything in its path." Can it be blocked, or dodged? How long does it take to fire?

That kind of stuff.

Thank you for the answer to that question Tacky dude.

In reference to the Bankai, Katisugo bankai has a fifteen second incantation that must be said before firing but there's a catch to this. Katisugo's opponents is forcibly restrained by the amount of reiatsu alone that pulsing through the air, so with dodging is out of the question.

Also, as stated, his Bankai is at such a high level that firing it once shatters the Bankai. If Katisugo is able to complete his incantation without being hit by an0other opponent, then blocking it would be pointless. Without the full incantation, then yes the attack is blockable and survivable for Captain level opponents who take a direct hit.

[Tackyhillbillu]

So... it is a one hit kill. It can't be dodged, or blocked, and in single combat it is undefeatable?

[Draken]

So... it is a one hit kill. It can't be dodged, or blocked, and in single combat it is undefeatable?

Tacky said it all. That bankai is not acceptable.

Prime's suggestions look good, in my opinion.

And Purple Rose, I recommend that you pass the first draft through this thread before placing it on the registry.

[The Librarian]

I'd recommend making the reiatsu fog into the effect of the air+water combination rune. The ability to change his reiatsu signature seems fine as a skill he picked up, especially in 12th Division.

When I said "spells" I didn't mean they all had to be energy blasts. Heck, the fire rune could make him smarter, the air rune could give him an enhanced shunpo...

Most of the powers that the runes give to Katisugo like the sword being enveloped in fire is a given ability upon release. The Fireballs and Fire walls must be created though. The same can be said for the other Pure rune powers. The fusion rune powers on the other hand, may appear more deadly, but are actually significantly weaker than the pure rune powers.

EDIT: Okay nvm those detail then Draken and Tacky. Katisugo's bankai is strong and obviously due to its power should be able to kill on site, but it is dodgeable and blockable assuming someone is capable of blocking it.

[Draken]

I hope you understand that your one-hit-ko is useless by definition.

[Terry576]

Hmmmm where have I seen that avatar before? I think he would look better green lol.

^_^ Oooh I`ll work on his face.

You haven't. I made it.

[tgva8889]

So, basically, the intention is that Katisugo's Bankai functions as a nuke-type ability, similar to except infinitely better than Soi Fon's? There is a limit on how many times he can go Bankai in a row, right? Because from my understanding, there really isn't such a limit automatically implied on people, as Soi Fon shot the cannon twice within several minutes of each other.

Katisugo is able to cast up to Hado 63 without incantation and able to play cast up to Hado 85 with incantation.

This sentence makes no sense. Is it up to 63 or 85?

Also, I agree in making the Reiatsu-Fog a weapon ability, or at least some kind of gadget he has. He shouldn't be powerful enough to just make that, that's Captain-Commander level.

[The Librarian]

I hope you understand that your one-hit-ko is useless by definition.

What do you mean useless Draken? Its a wall of freaking molten ethernal fire.

@tgva: The Mind Rune is already the rune that is connected exclusively with the reiatsu fog in Shikai. Also, yes katisugo's bankai is a nuke-type weapon that once it fires he can't even touch his zanpaktou for three days.

[horngeek]

What do you mean useless Draken? Its a wall of freaking molten ethernal fire.

Because it's a one-hit kill.

No one will EVER have their characters hit by something that cause whining if it doesn't kill them.

[Vulkan]

You haven't. I made it.

^_^ I meant you used your link and modified it.

Yeah.. I tried

[Draken]

First of all. Ethernal is not a word.

Second of all. What horngeek said.

Third of all, this one is for tvga. That line means Katisugo can use Hado 63 or lower if he does not use the chant, and Hado 85 or lower if he employs the chant. Using kido without the appropriate chant is a complex technique.

[tgva8889]

Thanks, I thought it said "without chant" twice. My mistake.

And, actually, it's inherently not useless, because not only does it nuke, but it also inflicts statuses on anyone in the nearby area.

[Terry576]

^_^ I meant you used your link and modified it.

Yeah.. I tried

No worries Vulky. I'm working on a better one right now. (I messed up poor Keri's skin color here.)

I love making avatars. It's fun! :D

[Vulkan]

Yeah I need to gain a new photo editor.. Fireworks 8 is a tad outdated

[Terry576]

I'm using inkscape. :>

[The Librarian]

First of all. Ethernal is not a word.

Second of all. What horngeek said.

Third of all, this one is for tvga. That line means Katisugo can use Hado 63 or lower if he does not use the chant, and Hado 85 or lower if he employs the chant. Using kido without the appropriate chant is a complex technique.

1. I meant ethereal, Sorry about the typo

2. I'm having a hard time understanding what HG is trying to say. Are you saying that people will b**** if I use it to attack someone, or something else?

3. What confusing about it tgva?

[Innis Cabal]

2. I'm having a hard time understanding what HG is trying to say. Are you saying that people will b**** if I use it to attack someone, or something else?

Righty. One hit kills don't fly in Community projects. Its not fair to anyone. And dosn't make for good stories.

[Draken]

Horngeek is saying that no one is ever going to allow your one-hit-ko attack to work on their characters for any reason. Because if there is one thing that no one wants is to have a character die to a one-hit-ko.

At best you will get to waste an ultimate technique on a cluster of expendable minions. At worst... You will get Worfed.

[The Librarian]

Okay Draken, then what would you have me do to my Bankai that doesn't involve completely changing it. Because, I'm drawing a line here, I will not completely change one more thing about this character. Their will be no major changes, only minor changes.

[Terry576]

Well dude. You have to completely change it. You have 26 attacks normally, and then a 1-hit kill. You've got more attacks then a freaking Second Stage Espada.

[Goblin Music]

i have a question.
what happens when a shinigami is hit in the Saketsu or Hakusui with a generally nonlethal attack, like say a punch? if you hit them with a sword (or arrow) it kill all of their shinigami power (known as Senka).

[Prime32]

Well dude. You have to completely change it. You have 26 attacks normally, and then a 1-hit kill. You've got more attacks then a freaking Second Stage Espada.

Right now he has 26 sets of about a half-dozen attacks each.

Again, Ichigo had one special attack. Your character has over 100, many of them more powerful than Ichigo's. And he isn't the main character.

[Draken]

Righty. A few things.

First. This is not ACRO or the Town. It is not free for all and there are set power levels. One-hit-kos are, by definition, outside of the power ladder, and as such, are not supposed to exist. Second. The group comments on characters, and if the group finds a problem, it needs to be weeded out before going into play. This means you must always be willing to change stuff that is deemed broken.

That said, you can keep the big wave of instant doom, but mark my words, it is never going to do anything other than breaking down walls and perhaps wiping out mooks.

Heck, if you toned down the Bankai to a simple ranged weapon that shoots elemental attacks you could make it into a shikai and buff up (or not) your shikai attacks to use them as a bankai.

[The Librarian]

Are you referring to the chart Prime? That was only a reference to the type of Rune Powers being used. I'll name each of the shikai sets now.

• Fire
• Water
• Air
• Earth
• Light
• Mind
• Lava
• Steam
• Snow/Ice
• Wood/Living Things
• Lightning
• Sand
• Crystal
• Mist...Maybe I don't know, kind of a ripoff of Steam

The first six are Pure Runes that are used in fusion to create the other shikai sets. So, its not 26 sets, but 14.

[Terry576]

Okay. Lemme put it this way:

You could take out ALL THREE FACTION LEADERS WITHOUT USING BAN KAI.

You have 14 sets of attacks, most of them far more powerful than Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshou, which can take out an Arrancar.

You're pretty much invincible.

You have 14 different releases. You could singlehandedly take out every single Espada.

You know why?

BECAUSE YOU ARE OVERTHINKING THIS.

Look at my Espada character. She uses fire. You use water/ice, dead. Any freaking Shinigami who fights you is dead, because you have so much extra power.

Just knock down your Shikai to y'know, a Shikai, and then create a new Ban Kai. It's not that hard to redesign characters.

[Goblin Music]

why not lower the power, increase the recharge and instead of the instant kill gun, make a bazooka that shoots the runes as ranged, the one (or combo) you shoot is unavailable until you reenter Bankai and drop the recharge a bit.
Edit: the individual Shikai power's recharge

[Prime32]

The first six are Pure Runes that are used in fusion to create the other shikai sets. So, its not 26 sets, but 14.

My mistake, I thought you had five Pure Runes.

This means you have 37 power sets (6 basic + 30 fusion + bankai).

This character is the most powerful in the game by far, and renders everyone else pointless. We're supposed to be making characters weaker than the ones in canon - yours is about 10 times stronger than Aizen.

[The Librarian]

My mistake, I thought you had five Pure Runes.

This means you have 37 power sets (6 basic + 30 fusion + bankai).

This character is the most powerful in the game by far, and renders everyone else pointless. We're supposed to be making characters weaker than the ones in canon.

WHAT! No! Katisugo has a total of 14 different shikais he could release into not 37. 14 different shikai that are no stronger than 3rd-4th seat in strength and he can't simultaneously switch off between them.

[horngeek]

And he's powerful for much the same reasons as Captain Broken- Shikai is too damm useful.

Aizen makes perfect illusions. Yours is the most flexible thing ever.

@^: Righty, that's flawed maths. 6x5=30.

He has 30 combination runes. Unless some are arbitrarily unusable.