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2012-10-10, 06:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
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2012-10-10, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
So, Blood Angels get Librarian Dreadnoughts now, right...?
I'll let you lot finish that thought with regards to the Emperor.Last edited by bluntpencil; 2012-10-10 at 06:31 AM.
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2012-10-10, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
I recall a pic of the Emperor seated on the Golden Thrown and he looked more like a heavily rotted zombie or a Lich. He is already clinicaly dead. It is just that there are some cells still alive that keep his spirit still going. http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k...pon_Throne.jpg
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2012-10-10, 07:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
I wonder about the not-dedicated chaos legions. Empy probably woudn't want them back (and given his track record with the Thunder Warriors will probably start an extermination campaign) but what would they do? stay doing what they do now and run from the Neolegions or would they go on some sort of pentinence crusade.
The Alpha Legion:
would probably try to get back into the Empire one way or another. Omegon (I like to believe the killed Alpharius was a decoy) might turn up on terra to go "sorry dad, that didn't really turn out as expected." they will probably face a culling in the best case scenario and get wiped out in the worst.
The Night Lords
Will be splintered. Some might want to seek forgiveness, most will probably be too far gone for that. They will most likely be exterminated and rebuilt as a Neolegion for their crimes.
Thefallenwho?
The Lion and Empy are goin to have A Talk. (assuming the Emperor can home in on his general location like he did with most of the other primarchs)
Either the DA or their shadowy brothers are going to get an extermination order.Last edited by Borgh; 2012-10-10 at 07:45 AM.
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2012-10-10, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Well, he might also psychically restore his body, it might be possible for an Alpha +++ psyker like him.
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2012-10-10, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-10, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-10, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-10, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
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2012-10-10, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
In before shouts of Hersey over Female Space Marine.
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2012-10-10, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Adeptus Custodes aren't Space Marines. Technically. So the HERESY doesn't apply here.
Also, that story is funnier every time I run across it.Last edited by The Glyphstone; 2012-10-10 at 11:34 PM.
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2012-10-11, 02:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
1) He'd need rather a lot of physiotherapy to rebuild his leg muscles from where he'd been seated so long, probably using a wheel-throne to begin with and gradually working up to crutches.
2) The first thing he'd probably ask was "Where's the nearest toilet?"
3) To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised he hasn't died from DVT yet.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-11, 04:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Funny story but all the inaccuracies just made me cringe. Female custodians being the least of them.
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2012-10-11, 04:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-11, 06:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Because Custodians use a version of the Space Marine process which just doesn't work on women. Since it it "a variation of" I don't think it impossible for there to be female custodians (especially as it is a job that involves a lot of intrigue which women are generally good at) but I think its highly unlikely given the canon we have so far.
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2012-10-11, 06:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-11, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Untrue.
They could have children before becoming Custodians. Likewise, you could have Space Marines, whose fathers were Space Marines, providing that they got their mothers pregnant before they became Marines. It's unlikely, due to most potential Marines being young, but it's certainly possible.
Also:
Can't we just put the Big E in a dreadnought?Last edited by bluntpencil; 2012-10-11 at 07:24 AM.
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2012-10-11, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Also, can I have a source on the heriditary custodians thing? I can't find anything on it.
And we can't put the Emperor in a dread because those things are way too crude for what it would have to do. A dread woudn't be able to keep the Astronomical lit or for that matter keep the emperor alive.
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2012-10-11, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Well, thing is there isn't much in the way of logical reasons why the Space Marine process wouldn't work on women. I'm sure I've heard it's because it's keyed to the male chromosome, but really the answer boils down, in and out of universe to "It doesn't work on Women because they don't want it to work on Women".
Which is to say I choose to interpret it as "Everybody knows the process doesn't work on women" and the Codex never considers the potential of female recruits at all and that individual chapters may or may not simply ignore that and recruit female marines anyway.
Likewise the the sterility thing. I choose to believe it's merely a commonly held belief that may or may not have any basis in fact. It's not like the vast majority of marines have any opportunity to find out.
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2012-10-11, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
If female Space Marines aren't considered a possibility because they don't want it and Jack Harkness is the God-Emperor of Mankind, he'd make it possible, goshdarnit!
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2012-10-11, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Oh. I really should have read the fic when it was posted. Or perhaps not at all.
Jack Harkness as the God Emperor of Mankind?
As crack fic's go, that makes far too much sense and I'm going to have trouble getting that mental image out of my mind now.
I mean, still kind of not un-alive despite the throne killing other people in minutes, and sometime in his future is reduced to a tentacled head. Clearly, being hooked into a psionic death machine for so long had it's side effects...
I must not, cannot, shall not use this as canon when I run my Deathwatch game.
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2012-10-11, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
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2012-10-11, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
I prefer the theory that the Pandorica is the Throne. Y'know...How it lets everyone in the galaxy at all places at all times lets everything know that I. Am. Here. And that The Master (who has upgraded his title to simply 'The Emperor') is in it...He created 20 clones of himself and tried to take over the Galaxy using his intellect.
Cypher is the Doctor. He shows up, disappears and re-appears at will. He's practically indestructible (the HH Heresy implies that Cypher is a title and can be passed on...The Phantom style) and you can kill him and he'll just come back. And, whether his goal is to shank or save TheMasterEmperor, nobody knows.
As of Know No Fear, Ollanius Pius has acquired the role of Jack Harkness. Although I've read another that Harkness is actually John 'Jack' Grammaticus.
Anyway, that's not the point. Just something I thought was hilarious now that we've brought up WhoHammer.
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2012-10-11, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Given that like much of the technology of the IoM the details of how and why the conversion process to make a Space Marine are lost, they probably don't know in universe why it doesn't work on women.
They have a set of rites which, if performed correctly, produce a Space Marine candidate from an ordinary human. They may not know how all of them work.
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2012-10-11, 06:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Except that they do. Space Marines are made in their formative years when hormones are going crazy. They accelerate that process. During this time, the massive testosterone output usually kills a woman by Phase 3 (of 19). Theoretically you can give a woman two hearts, and the height and the cement bones and chestplate but none of the strength or the other redundant organs that makes a Space Marine take any wound that isn't a headshot.
This process is similar to a massive dose of steroids and shrivels a man's junk making him sterile - as we saw in Space Wolf.
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2012-10-11, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
But the thing is, female biology simply isn't that different.
You know what happens when you give a female massive amounts of testosterone? Almost exactly what happens when you give a man massive amounts of testosterone. I'm just not sure I believe that space testosterone would be that different.
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2012-10-11, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Jack Harkness GEoM.... yep, its now become hypercanon. So true that even out canon impossiblity cannot disprove it.
Literal testosterone poisoning. Fascinating, where you get that from if I may ask?
Anyways its really not a terrible surprise that a process as radical as a making a Space Marine can't be applied blindly applied to both genders. Though there should be some outside chance of success I think, but would probably result in the same, ahem, body type except in one regard.
However there's not much reason a differently tuned process would not work on females. Since those sort of balances can be (and are) altered IRL. Course "realistically" the results would be pretty similar to the males. Not that realism has ever stopped 40k from doing anything.
I think I can encapsulate the real reason there are no female marines though:
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2012-10-11, 10:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
Better reason - they'd have to make new plastic molds without increasing their models sold. Right now, 'Female marine' is Space Marine plus some modeling putty - creating a line of Female Marines would end up siphoning away Male Marine sales.
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2012-10-11, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
My take on the matter is that this is not the case. It's the Samus dilemma, for me. Inside any of those suits of power armour there may be a dude or a surprisingly feminine super soldieress. Post process, she'd be as tall, as strong, as fast and a female space marine isn't going to put up with all that power-stilleto nonsense the Sisters of Battle totter around in. Ain't going to be no lumps to indicate a difference in armour occupant.
(I use this as a facet of a custom marine chapter I wrote up for our local deathwatch campaigns. They have a long running hatred for and feud with the Sisters of Battle partially for this reason and partially out of disgust at the weasel-word origin of the Sisters.)
Of course chances are if GW decided it was canon, they'd put them in power stilletos and impractically designed chestplates anyway, regardless of how wrong it would be.Last edited by Tiki Snakes; 2012-10-11 at 11:09 PM.
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2012-10-11, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: If the Emperor Fully healed would it matter? [WH40k]
I'd point out its hard to avoid the idea that the Sisters of Battle are/were at same level meant to be the "female marines" only curiously they are probably the least supported IoM force, demoted from even having their own codex for awhile yes, and are from the begining also comfortably weaker then the Space Marines and not held in as high regard.
And its not like 40k is overflowing with options for someone wanting to field an amazon army. If GW can provide a single chapter with sue-per special awesome chapter only models like this monstrosity1 I think they can draw up some canon support for female marines.
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