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2011-03-18, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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What Is "Grimderp"?
No, I know what "Grimdark" is. This is something else.
I've come across the term on RPGnet, and apparently it originated on 4chan's /tg/ board (and no, that has nothing to do with the popular image of the board-that's /b/. The rest of it is just snarky self-deprecation, thanks to /b/).
So, what is grimderp, and how does it relate to grimdark?My Homestuck role is Thane of Space of the Land of Insanity and Frogs.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
The question kind of answers itself.
In case you don't quite get it: Grimderp is when Grimdark gets so dark it wraps around and becomes idiotic. I.E: Soulstorm's Imperial Guard somehow lost 100 Baneblades, the rarest weapons ever produced by the Imperium, by simple logistics errors.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
I'd imagine it's just a derogatory term for works of fiction that take the whole grim and dark thing to ridiculous levels. Seeing as 'derp' is the famous sound effect used for being a retard in various ways.
edit: beat me to it!Last edited by Comet; 2011-03-18 at 03:08 PM.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
It's when the dark in Grimdark wraps around to derp.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
It's basically when grimdark is so overbearingly dark and trying to be oppressive that you just stop and go 'what? no, this is just dumb'.
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2011-03-18, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
Grimderp is grimdark gone wrong. It's grimdark taken so far or done so badly that it can no longer be taken seriously in the slightest and instead seems only laughable and stupid.
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Didn't 40K originate the term 'grimdark' to begin with? How can it now be mostly grimderp, when the source material is effectively unchanged?
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
I agree, the biggest bit of Grimderp has to be Dawn of War: Memestorm. There's plenty of reasons why this is, but let's just say that being in a situation where one hundred mansion-sized tanks is necessary, and then losing them is just...derp.
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2011-03-18, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
Grimdark (as a term and approach) only appeared from 3rd edition onwards. Many players from RT and 2nd ed find the whole thing stupid as it lacks the satire or black humour found in the earlier presentation.
I once tried writing a story satirising BL's often ridiculous 'edgy' writing (I generally like their books, but sometimes their metaphore generator just gets overworked) and it was almost indistinguishable from the real thing...Princess in the streets.
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Yeah... I think Warhammer and 40k both seem to generally work a bit better when they mix their darkness with parody.
Of course, as German speaking players we at least still have the satisfaction of laughing at Empire names.Resident Vancian Apologist
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
Despite it being derived from 2nd ed's tag line...
It only became a term around that time due to it being an internet term. No one in my real life gaming group uses it.
The loss of humour in 3rd ed was partly due to removing half the overcomplicated rules. The Black Library's output rose a lot during 3rd ed, so there isn't much 2nd ed stuff to compare it to.
At least the fantasy fluff is still silly.
For silly 40k we have Dawn of War."that nighted, penguin-fringed abyss" - At The Mountains of Madness, H.P. Lovecraft
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
I'm fairly sure that the three are not mutually exclusive as well.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
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NO, they were SENT OUT.
Dispatched to other systems. They had 100 baneblades, and then they got orders to send the 100 baneblades to OTHER PLACES.
It's like when the gun factory ships a box of guns. Only with tanks.
Okay? The imperium is a big place, and someone got 100 "Baneblade request" forms from 100 different planets at the same time.Last edited by shadow_archmagi; 2011-03-19 at 10:32 PM.
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Re: What Is "Grimderp"?
Okay, take a 13 year old. Any average 13 year old kid. Have that 13 year old kid write the darkest, most evil, vilest story story they can possibly come up with.
99 times out of 100 you'll end up with Grimderp.
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thing is, the average planet having hundred baneblades on it was what was stupid, at least according to the fluff surrounding banelblades. where an planet conquoring army was considered lucky to have a full company of 4
think of it as the average backwater country (lets say.....singapore) having a hundred nucular powered aircraft carriers, plus airplanes, then selling them all on or otherwise getting rid of them.Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, 'ow's yer soul? "
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And, before said planet was invented for the game (nothing wrong with that, mind. Games Workshop do that all the time.), baneblades were supposed to be so complex that many forge worlds had trouble making them.
suffice to say, i just throw my hands up, ignore the whole problem, and get back to Blowing Stuff Up with said 11 barreled monsters.
to be fair, i always prefered that they were not super rare, just bloody uncommon at 40K scale. their're common enough at epic scale, at least.Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, 'ow's yer soul? "
But it's " Thin red line of 'eroes " when the drums begin to roll
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To be fair also, they apparently just assemble the parts via a lengthy convoy system, so maybe the Imperium ships parts from different forge worlds to that planet for assembly and crewing?
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True, there was 'grim darkness', but only on the cover of the box and nowhere else. Grimdark came later.
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