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Bibliography, the Game
As some of you may know, Elagune has crafted an awesome webcomic by the name of Bibliography. The system used in it is intriguing and a lot of the readers want to play a game with the rules of the world (you would to, go read it!). So we come to you, Artisans, to create this game.
Different Codices have different powers, so werewolves (of the Lunar Codex) should have speed and claw related powers, while eyedolls (of the All-Seeing Codex) should have eye and recon related powers, etc.
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What we have so far:
Attributes:
Strength
Dexterity
Stamina
Intelligence
Wits
Charisma
Attributes are rated 1-10, with 3 being the average human ability. You get two Codex Attributes based on your Codex, and can choose one Favored Attribute. Upgrading these favored attributes cost less XP than ones that aren’t. Strength shows how strong you are, Dexterity how agile, Stamina how sturdy. Intelligence shows your capacity for spells, Wits is how fast you react and Charisma how charismatic you are.
Chargen:
Choose a Codex. Note Codex Attributes. Choose a Favored Attribute. You have 10 points to spend in Codex/Favored, and 7 in the other three. Each Attribute starts at 2.
Each Codex has 50 spells. Roll 5d10. Look Here.
My first roll was a 9. Therefore, my first spell is #9.
My second roll was a 8. Therefore, my second spell is #18.
My third roll was a 7. Therefore, my third spell is #27.
My fourth roll was a 2. Therefore, my fourth spell is #32.
My fifth roll was a 3. Therefore, my fifth spell is #43.
Alternate rule: roll 10d10, 2 for each 10 spells. Choose 1 of the 2 from each 10 spells.
You have 10 Bonus Points.
{table] Cost | Effect
1| Specialty in an Attribute
2| X
3| Create a variation of a Spell that you know
4| Raise a Favored Attribute by 1
5| Raise an Attribute that isn't Favored by 1
6| Learn a spell. Roll 5d10 as before, and choose one.[/table]Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-06-22 at 03:20 PM.
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Favored Attributes:
Holy Codex: Intelligence and Charisma
Lunar Codex: Dexterity and Wits
All-Seeing Codex: Intelligence and Wits
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I suggest allowing a favoured attribute to be a codex 1, and in exchange you start higher than 2 in it (but not too high).
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Can you explain? I don't think I understand.
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You say each attribute would start at 2. My suggestion is that if a character has their favoured attribute be one that is already a part of their codex, they start with 4 or 5 in it. This may or may not allow the attribute to go above 10. It would give a reason that someone might make a character who has a favoured attribute be one of the ones their codex excels at. Otherwise even if the fluff would point to that, there is no mechanical reason for them to do so (it just means they have less attributes that cost less xp to upgrade.
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That's true. So how about:
Neither Caste or Favored starts at 2.
Caste/Favored starts at 3.
Caste&Favored starts at 4.
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{table=head]Codex|Favored Attributes
All-Seeing Codex| Intelligence and Wits
Atlantis Codex| Stamina and Dexterity
Candle Codex| Strength and Intelligence
Codex of Salem| Intelligence and Wits
Codex of Solomon| n/a
Codex of Temptation| Charisma and Dexterity
Freezing Codex| Stamina and Intelligence
Gelatinous Codex| Dexterity and Stamina
Holy Codex| Intelligence and Charisma
Lunar Codex| Dexterity and Wits
Ma'at's Codex| Strength and Stamina
Nine-Tailed Codex| Wits and Charisma
Sanguine Codex| n/a
Shambling Codex| Strength and Stamina
Trickster's Codex| Intelligence and Wits[/table]Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-06-21 at 11:52 PM.
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Abilities
While Attributes show your character's natural stats, Abilities show the stats that your character earns through training.
Melee- Used for attacking an opponent in close combat.
Range- Used for attacking an opponent in ranged combat.
Magic- Shows aptitude with Magic
Dodge- Shows how well you can dodge or parry an attack.
Lore- Shows how well you know of The World.
Athletics- Used to determine possible actions.
Socialize- Used to gain allies at Page Events, and stop combat.
Investigate- Used to find clues and decipher codes.
Sneak- A combination of Stealth and larceny. How well you can move without being noticed and steal things.
Awareness- How aware you are of your surroundings.
When you choose a Codex, you gain 3 Codex Abilities. You may choose 2 favored Abilities. Raising these cost less XP than normal. These are also on a 1-10 scale, however, 0 is the normal human score. You start with a score of 0 in every ability, except for Codex abilities (start at 1), and Favored at 2. You may spend 10 points on Codex/Favored abilities, and 10 on the others.Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-06-22 at 11:24 AM.
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{table=head]Codex|Favored Attributes|Favored Abilities
All-Seeing Codex| Intelligence and Wits|Magic, Lore, Awareness
Atlantis Codex| Stamina and Dexterity|n/a
Candle Codex| Strength and Intelligence|Range, Dodge, Athletics
Codex of Salem| Intelligence and Wits|Magic, Lore, Socialize
Codex of Solomon| n/a|n/a
Codex of Temptation| Charisma and Dexterity|Dodge, Socialize, Sneak
Freezing Codex| Stamina and Intelligence|Range, Dodge, Lore
Gelatinous Codex| Dexterity and Stamina|Dodge, Athletics, Sneak
Holy Codex| Intelligence and Charisma|Magic, Lore, Socialize
Lunar Codex| Dexterity and Wits|Melee, Dodge, Athletics
Ma'at's Codex| Strength and Stamina|Melee, Dodge, Investigate
Nine-Tailed Codex| Wits and Charisma|n/a
Sanguine Codex| n/a|n/a
Shambling Codex| Strength and Stamina|Melee, Dodge, Magic
Trickster's Codex| Intelligence and Wits|Range, Sneak, Awareness
[/table]Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-06-22 at 12:58 AM.
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This looks good
But what do we do if someone wants a 1-10 spell instead of a 11-20 spell?
And for that matter, should there be rules for getting more spells or do you just have to find somebody who know them?Treasured Quotes
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Atlantis Codex
Dodge, Athletics, and Socialize
Solomon Codex
Intelligence and Strength
Melee, Magic, Lore
What about Librarians?
How about they have the choice of any attribute and ability to be favoured ssince they have no spells of special abilities?
Also, can you explain caste to me? I don't see it mentioned.Hoc Dictum Videtur Esse Melius In Latine.
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I think Caste was an accident on his part as this system seems to draw from Exalted. If my theory is correct that would mean Caste should actually be Codex. If I'm completely off-base I have no idea what it means.
And am I the only one who finds it odd that we are giving Codex Attributes and Abilities to codices that haven't shown up in either continuity yet?Avatar by Elagune
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Err, yeah, what he said. It's on the mind <.<
I'll fix that.
And those are based solely off of guesses. If we see a Merman, for example, and he seems to favor a different set, we'll just change it.
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Libraians will come later, after Pages are done. And HypoSoc, the current theory on Solomon is summoning, so Strength would not make sense for them.
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The Golem's strength, I meant.
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Solomon would likely be Intelligence and Wits, as Solomon was known for his wisdom.
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I know, but Reaction seemed a strange definition of wits.
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The pages could be the golems though. We'll see soon.
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Well I could see arguments for just about all of them except strength for Solomon:
Stamina: they have to be sturdy when summoning stronger spirits
Intelligence: They need to be smart in order to learn spells, summoning circles, djfferent types of summonable creatures.
Wits: They hav to think fast. Also, summoning is a battles of
wills between the Page and summoned.
Charisma: they have to be able to
bind the creatures they summon with honeyed words
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But Solomon codex could be becoming golems, not summoning.
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This part is really confusing to me. It looks like you want people's spells known to be randomly selected from their list. I don't like that, but whatever. The confusing part is that 5d10 does not give you a range of 1-50. It gives 5-50, with 27.5 being the most likely result and more extreme results being less common. If you wanted every spell to be equally likely to be known, you could try 1d100/2 five times for your five spells.
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It's the statistical probability, you'd roll a 27 or 28 most likely.
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I can see how you might be confused. I'll word it better in a sec, but here's what I mean:
Look Here.
My first roll was a 9. Therefore, my first spell is #9.
My second roll was a 8. Therefore, my second spell is #18.
My third roll was a 7. Therefore, my third spell is #27.
My fourth roll was a 2. Therefore, my fourth spell is #32.
My fifth roll was a 3. Therefore, my fifth spell is #43.
I'm thinking about making it 10d10, and you choose 5 spells from that list.Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-06-22 at 03:18 PM.
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I think if you do 10d10, then it should be still divided among groups of 10. If you roll the same spell twice, either you get a free variation, or you are just out of luck. For example:
[rollv]10d10[/rollv]
Messed upLast edited by HypoSoc; 2010-06-22 at 04:18 PM.
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