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Thread: Bard/??/Warchanter
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2012-11-18, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bard/??/Warchanter
I've been playing around with the idea of playing a character with the Warchanter(CW) prestige class for a little while now, and I was hoping to find some input on which of these characters would be more effective or if there's anything I'm overlooking in these characters. I was planning on taking a level or two in Bard, then swapping over for a few levels of another class before swapping into the Warchanter. I'm not looking for an incredibly optimized character, but something playable would be nice.
I've been tinkering around with a Bard/Hexblade a little bit, for a Warchanter who would be focusing on buffing allies and self while debuffing enemies. I've also been looking into Bard/Marshal, for a more buff-based character. However, I'm a bit worried about the lack of BAB in that scenario--Warchanter is a combat class, and I don't want to be relegated to the background while everyone else has all of the fun.
There's no specific campaign/party/game that I'm currently looking to start him off in, but I like to have some character concepts ready if I need one to go. Most of my games start around level 5, so I don't need to be in Warchanter already. I'm just curious about which you all think would be the better building blocks.
Cheers!
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2012-11-18, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
Warblade (Tome of Battle) is nice for this sort of character. The Song of the White Raven feat lets you stack your Bard levels with it for Inspire Courage, and White Raven maneuvers complement your buffing. Plus, full BAB.
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2012-11-18, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-18, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
A 1-2 level dip in Fighter can pick up a couple of feats if you are trying to work up a feat tree. 3 levels of Swash gives you Weapon Finesse free and +Int to damage. Rogue or Scout give a small amount of precision damage that can be used to trigger various feats like Staggering Strike.
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2012-11-18, 05:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
I considered using Swashbuckler and taking a more pirate-captain-ey route, but I thought it would be a bit too MAD, with INT for Swashbuckler, CHA for Bard and Warchanter, and then the general combat stats. Which would leave WIS to be the closest to a dump stat, even though it controls Will. The other thoughts are interesting, though.
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2012-11-18, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-18, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
The Harmonious Knight substitution level (CoV WE) (or debateably the feat From Smite to Song) lets you qualify for War Chanter after lvl4, faster than straight Bard entry. A dip into Warrior Skald (RoF) will let you pick up all the Bardic Music effects subject to meeting the perform rank requirements. These can be obtained one level earlier through the feat Primary Contact (Cityscape) which gives you one skill point over the skill cap.
But yeah, Paladins of Freedom make great Warchanters."Hex grids are the way forward! And slighty to the side..." - Studoku
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2012-11-18, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
Your DM is letting Warchanter advance inspire courage, right?
As written, it does not. In 3.0, IC did not increase w/ level, in 3.5 it does. Warchanter came out right between these two editions, and I think it was a mistake (especially since Warchanter REQUIRES inspire courage!), but it is something you need to ask the DM to houserule.
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2012-11-18, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Bard/??/Warchanter
She's typically pretty cool about things like that. She did it in our last campaign with my Knight's Challenge DC's, so I'd assume she'd be pretty cool about it.
The Harmonious Knight substitution level (CoV WE) (or debateably the feat From Smite to Song) lets you qualify for War Chanter after lvl4, faster than straight Bard entry. A dip into Warrior Skald (RoF) will let you pick up all the Bardic Music effects subject to meeting the perform rank requirements. These can be obtained one level earlier through the feat Primary Contact (Cityscape) which gives you one skill point over the skill cap.
But yeah, Paladins of Freedom make great Warchanters.