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    Stealing from the peasants.

    Can't we leave that to the Satraps?


    On a side note, I still think they're Green Sun Princes, scouting the Circle who killed their Blood Ape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Huh. I thought there were only 10,000 Dragon-Blooded in the entire Creation - which is huge - and the Blessed Isle were their seat of power where they rule the mortals and involve themselves in politics. Wouldn't they have better things to do than shake down travellers who might or might not be rich? Then again, they might have fallen out of favor in their family or something.
    I did a post on this not long ago. The short is: There are the 10,000 Dynasts of the realm (who actually turn out to be 20,000, but they never updated the name) plus 10-20k more terrestrials officially accounted for somewhere in the world (several thousand in lookshy), and with a little bookkeeping and official numbers we come up with a conservative estimate of 2-400,000 lost eggs who are... somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leliel View Post
    On a side note, I still think they're Green Sun Princes, scouting the Circle who killed their Blood Ape.
    On the other side of the secret tunnel? After several weeks of travel? That's assuming that they knew about the tunnel, and correctly guessed that that whatever killed the blood ape also knew about the tunnel, and that they knew which road they would follow after exiting it.

    Sure, it's not impossible, especially in a setting like this, but it still doesn't seem that likely. I'd rather guess that they're just random mooks and that the challenge for our exalts lies in not giving up their cover while dealing with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    On the other side of the secret tunnel? After several weeks of travel? That's assuming that they knew about the tunnel, and correctly guessed that that whatever killed the blood ape also knew about the tunnel, and that they knew which road they would follow after exiting it.
    Or that they were already on the Isle, having used the tunnel to get there, and left the apes behind with some kind of ward (not sure how possible this is) so they'd know if anyone followed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    On the other side of the secret tunnel? After several weeks of travel? That's assuming that they knew about the tunnel, and correctly guessed that that whatever killed the blood ape also knew about the tunnel, and that they knew which road they would follow after exiting it.
    ...Dude?

    That kind of convoluted thinking is what Acts of Villany are for.
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    Question.
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    Sidereals, are they affected by the Great Curse? How?
    Yes, they are. Their Great Curse makes them ever so aggressive and arrogant when it comes to promoting their part of destiny.
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    Thanks. :)
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    Plus, it's worse if large numbers gather together. And when they took the 3 prophecies, every Sidereal in existence was in the same place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    Plus, it's worse if large numbers gather together. And when they took the 3 prophecies, every Sidereal in existence was in the same place.
    They were even kind enough to wait for all 100 Exaltations to have found their hosts. That was nice of them.
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    They were even kind enough to wait for all 100 Exaltations to have found their hosts. That was nice of them.
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    Essentially, the Sidereal expression of the Great Curse means that Sidereal Big Ideas never turn out well.

    ...EVER.


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    Quote Originally Posted by horngeek View Post
    Essentially, the Sidereal expression of the Great Curse means that Sidereal Big Ideas never turn out well.

    ...EVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horngeek View Post
    Essentially, the Sidereal expression of the Great Curse means that Sidereal Big Ideas never turn out well.

    ...EVER.
    Or they can turn out extremely well, because Sidereals are incredibly efficient at implementing their plans.

    Just that their plans tend to be things like "destroy Gem in two weeks" and "make sure there is a city-wide orgy in Whitewall".
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    Very true. One would argue that the Usurptation worked very well. It's just the goal of the plan itself was flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavar View Post
    Very true. One would argue that the Usurptation worked very well. It's just the goal of the plan itself was flawed.
    Well, I dunno about that one. One could make a case that the execution was rather botched (making the Mask go "boom" and mass casualties and myriad errors and such) - and given how psycho the Solars were getting, the goal doesn't look all that bad from where I'm standing...

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    Except their prophecies failed to account for the actions of the Yozis or Neverborn, due to both being outside Fate.


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    I'd think taking truly massive casualties should be expected if you're trying to kill 300+ high essence Celestial Exalts with 100 Celestial Exalts and a extremely large number of terrestrial exalts. And, yes, the plan had other problems in execution, but overall it went very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golentan View Post
    I did a post on this not long ago. The short is: There are the 10,000 Dynasts of the realm (who actually turn out to be 20,000, but they never updated the name) plus 10-20k more terrestrials officially accounted for somewhere in the world (several thousand in lookshy), and with a little bookkeeping and official numbers we come up with a conservative estimate of 2-400,000 lost eggs who are... somewhere?
    Indeed. It should be noted that in old China, 10,000 usually translated to "a bloody lot, don't bother counting higher, there's just too many." So I think the "10,000 Dragons" is more of a name than actual data.

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    Very true. One would argue that the Usurptation worked very well. It's just the goal of the plan itself was flawed.
    Sidereals always get that. I personally think they should be cut some slack. They had a lousy position, and they took optimized choice; the best balance between quality of the outcome and probability of success. It wasn't a bad idea. It was a bad problem.

    True, they could have been less arrogant, and investigated what sources of error there might be, but that's the curse for ya.
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    Hence, the goal of the plan was flawed, and largely due to the curse.

    Which is what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    Question.
    Sidereals, are they affected by the Great Curse? How?
    Solars do horrible things. Lunars are horrible things. And Sidereals make horrible decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Solars do horrible things. Lunars are horrible things. And Sidereals make horrible decisions.
    And then do horrible things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Solars do horrible things. Lunars are horrible things. And Sidereals make horrible decisions.
    I love this quote. Wasn't it somewhere on the nets?

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    So, are they still unaware of the Great Curse or not?
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    Horngeek: Sure
    Coidzer: No one in game, except for whom the DM designates. Popular ones are the Maiden of Secrets, Nara-O, Lytek, that one wyld-crazy god, and the ones that set it in motion. Redeemed Abyssals could know but probably dont.

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    What are these eggs you guys keep referring to? And what are the db's expression of the great curse?
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    So is it the great curse or laziness that lead to the Sidereals not being curious why everything went to pot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Solars do horrible things. Lunars are horrible things. And Sidereals make horrible decisions.
    There's a double entendre here regarding Solar Bonds somewhere, but I'm too sleepy to parse it properly.

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