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Thread: Combat Advantage Question
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2011-03-29, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Combat Advantage Question
If you have two creatures fighting with swords, one is standing on a table or other item that is higher than the other, does either of them have combat advantage?
Is the guy with higher ground in a position to bring more weight and power to bear have advantage?
Or does the guy who only needs to block from above and has a good swing at poorly protected legs have the advantage?
Is this DM's call, or are there actual rules?I lose more minions to that Starting Tavern than from any other. I mean come on! Give a guy a chance!
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2011-03-29, 01:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
Pretty sure this is DM's call.
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2011-03-29, 04:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
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2011-03-29, 05:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
If its a PC then yes I would give CA.
Aint RAW though
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2011-03-29, 05:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
By RAW it depends on the table.
If the table grants combat advantage to anyone who is standing on it then this ruling is correct - if not it is not correct.
Obstacles in 4E can bring it's own effects, and like the question if you could "slip on this floor while running" you can not give a general answer that will be correct for all tables and all floors.
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2011-03-29, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
Obi-wan Kenobi would say it does.
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2011-03-29, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
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2011-03-29, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
There are no actual rules (IIRC) but I'd say it's a wash.
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2011-03-29, 09:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
I wouldn't give full Combat Advantage, but in the past I've given a +1 bonus on attack rolls for having the high ground if I think it was particular cinematic (or if PCs have been having a long string of bad rolls). Most of my players were 3.x players before, and are used to the higher ground bonus anyway.
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2011-03-30, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
Is the table higher than 5ft? If not they are still technically on the ground.
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2011-03-30, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-03-30, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat Advantage Question
Is this something that was important in old editions?
Its come up a lot lately (in my gaming group, most of whom never played 3.x but did play adnd, and on other forums)
RAW there is no such thing as higher ground. You are either adjacent (even if this is one square diagonally up and over) or you are further away than adjacent.
even in my 3.x games higher ground modifiers never came up, not that the measly +1 would make a difference when prone/squeezing/helpless were +4's
That makes me wonder if the table WAS 5ft high, and there was an ally on the ground opposite to the enemy... would that count ask flanking? or would the ally have to be 5ft below ground to be "opposite" the enemy?
for large creatures, who take up 2x2x2 you would be flanking until the table placed the player 10ft off the ground.Last edited by Bagelz; 2011-03-30 at 03:24 PM.