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2011-05-31, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-31, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Squids don't have the fearsome powers of mental control that octopuses are known for.
- Chameleon Base Class [3.5]/[PF]: A versatile, morphic class that mimics one basic party role (warrior, caster, sneak, etc) at a time. If you find yourself getting bored of any class you play too long, the Chameleon is for you!
- Warlock Power Sources [3.5]: Making Hellfire Warlock part of the base class and providing other similar options for Warlocks whose powers don't come from devils.
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2011-05-31, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
But they're so much more dignified!
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2011-05-31, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-31, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cuttlefish>Dragons!
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2011-05-31, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
I did once have a campaign where the players were going to run into a gnome who was a Favored Soul and didn't know it, mostly because good ol' Garl thought it'd be lulzy. The kicker, of course, is that Vancian magic was totally illegal in that world, mainly because it always (always) caused horrible and bizarre backlash in a random area around the caster (so the caster rarely suffered, but folks around him usually did). So he wasn't just some harmless old gnome who occasionally had weird effects following him around. He was a gnome who was inherently dangerous to the state. Garl's kind of a prick sometimes.
Unfortunately, that particular arc never got that far, but oh well.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2011-05-31, 08:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Must counter this one. A fair amount of Wu Jen-unique spells revolve around spirits, which is defined as including incorporeal undead(Kn-Rel) and Elementals(Kn-Pla). Thus, they would have reason to know of these things.
Of course, I find it a bit silly that only religion lets you know about undead, but that's neither here nor there.Last edited by Shade Kerrin; 2011-05-31 at 08:48 PM.
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2011-05-31, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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"If I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint threw a scimitar at me, they'd put me away..." - Dennis, aged 37 - Executive Officer of the Week, Anarcho-syndicalist commune, somewhere in Britain.
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2011-05-31, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-31, 09:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Some people call 3.5 spontaneous casters "Vancian" because they still rely on spell slots and spell levels. Traditionally, though, it refers more to casters who memorize.
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2011-05-31, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I was using the word in the sense of "anyone with spell slots." It was a fun framing device to convince my group to try incarnum/psionics/ToB/etc.
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2011-05-31, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Now parrots, on the other hand, are huge leathery eating machines with wings and quite the conversationalists too. You've got your fire parrot, your ice parrot, your acid parrot, your swamp parrot, your metallic parrots, your prismatic parrots, the great horned parrot hatchling, your thunder lizard parrot, your parro-liches, your shadow parrots, your tien yingwu (them oriental celestial parrots, dontcha know), and...
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2011-05-31, 11:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
What can a parrot do if it's dead? It's clearly nailed to that perch.
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2011-06-01, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
If favored souls had K: Religion, they would start complaining about not getting domains or turning and nothing would get done.
Likewise, if dragon shamans had K: Arcana, they would know that dragons don't have mystical auras of awesomeness and lose their best powers in a crisis of faith.
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2011-06-01, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Or, for example, weren't the inventors of sliced bread, central heating, or indoor plumbing?
Anyway, I would just houserule it to be a class skill for them and if your not the DM and your DM dose not allow that then there is always that feat that gives you knowldage skills as class skills(educated?) or that dragon magizene feat which allows you to choose two skills and make them class skills for you(and you get a +2 bonus in each to boot.)....So getting knowldage(Arcana) on your list without a houserule is easy enough if your willing to spend a feat.(in which case the latter could be better as you can pick up a broken skill(like Diplomacy) along with Knowldage(Arcana).)Last edited by Maho-Tsukai; 2011-06-01 at 10:39 AM.
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2011-06-01, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
I hate how sorcerers only get Bluff and not the other social skills, and in 3.0, they didn't even get that! That's right, as originally designed, the charisma-based class didn't get any social skills.
The nice thing about 4e is that sorcerers get the whole package: Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Insight (Sense Motive in 3.5).
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2011-06-01, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Actually doesn't Dragon magic have alternate features for dragons to get draconic auras by trading in spells or something?
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2011-06-01, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
It's a dual-progression arcane/martial class. It does not get any Knowledge skills, or Spellcraft.
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2011-06-01, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 07:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
Knights not getting Diplomacy irked me too.
And for a core class, what's up with bards getting Listen but not Spot? Yeah, I know they have good hearing, but why can't they have good eyesight too?
One PF change I liked was giving Fighters the Knowledge (Dungeoneering) skill.Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
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2011-06-01, 07:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
I personally think that Fighters should have had Spot and Listen on their skills list. Seriously, in the core classes, is not the Fighter the stereotypical guard? The one expected to notice and engage monsters?
In actual fact, I think nearly all classes should get Spot & Listen, except perhaps the most studious types who spend most of their lives with heads buried in books.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2011-06-01, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon shaman don't know crap 'bout dragons
I think the most embarrassing lack on that skill list is Balance. Seriously, what kind of melee class would be bad at balance? And you'd think more iconic 'hero' classes would have Tumble, given its incredible proliference as a maneuver among fictional heroes.
- Chameleon Base Class [3.5]/[PF]: A versatile, morphic class that mimics one basic party role (warrior, caster, sneak, etc) at a time. If you find yourself getting bored of any class you play too long, the Chameleon is for you!
- Warlock Power Sources [3.5]: Making Hellfire Warlock part of the base class and providing other similar options for Warlocks whose powers don't come from devils.
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2011-06-01, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-01, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Have to give this a +1.
I just put any full caster on this list. Cleric, Favoured Souls, Sorcerers, etc. It just isn't fair to Rogue, Fighter, etc if full casters all had 4-6 +Int skill points. Otherwise they blow other classes out of the water even more. Then again, that keeps them away from the squids.