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2012-05-04, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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[3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
Yo, hello!
In PF, Improved Precise Shot states I ignore the AC and the miss chance of cover and concealment (only partial). But does it allows me to apply precision damage to those targets with partial cover/concealment?
By RAW, I would say no. Comments?But the strong man is stronger when alone.
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2012-05-04, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
No, it doesn't. It doesn't say anything to that effect in the feat's rules.
Also, there's a thread for these kind of questions.
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2012-05-05, 05:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
Right, I forgot.
I apologize. Can a mod help me by closing or deleting this thread?
Thanks for the answer.But the strong man is stronger when alone.
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2012-05-05, 05:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
Ranged sneak attacks aren't really very loved by the rules, compared to melee ones, so that would seem like reasonable houserule to me.
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2012-05-05, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
I'd allow precision damage if the only reason for not getting precision damage before applying the feat was an effect (say partial concealment) that the feat in particular is designed to overcome.
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2012-05-05, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
You want Shadow Strike for that, which you can get far earlier than Improved Precise Shot.
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2012-05-05, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
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2012-05-05, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
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2012-05-05, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
I know this does not do that. I think Greater Blind-Fight is what I am thinking of. Combined they (might?) mean you can sneak attack invisible creatures.
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2012-05-05, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
The feat wording still only says that it ignores the miss chance from concealment. The foe still has concealment, even at 0% miss chance.
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2012-05-05, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
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2012-05-05, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.PF] Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
Thanks for the answers. My DM uses RAW in this case because it's very clear what the feat allows.
Cheers!But the strong man is stronger when alone.
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2013-04-08, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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RAW on Improved Precise Shot + Sneak Atttack
Hi folks!
I know the issue has been discussed quite some time ago. But as my rogue/wizard/spellwarp sniper character is about to get Improved Precise Shot I did some research and came up with this:
In the spell description of the Assassin 1 spell Critical Strike, published 2006 in Complete Mage (actually an update to the 2005 version in the Spell Compendium) it says:
CRITICAL STRIKE
Divination
Level: Assassin 1
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 swift action
Range: Personal
Target: You
Duration: One attack
As you complete this spell, you sense the blood
rushing through your target's veins
This spell guides your next attack to
your foe's vital spots. Your next single
attack roll (if it is made before the end
of the next round) ignores any miss
chance due to concealment. (In the
case of a foe that has total concealment,
you must still attack the correct
square.) This even allows you to deliver
a sneak attack against a foe that has
concealment.
Complete Mage, p. 100
Admittedly this is not a premium source for core rules (spell description in an optional rule book), but at least it is official material. So I'd say: Sneak attack on concealed opponents with Improved Precise Shot is RAW.Last edited by Giorin; 2013-04-08 at 01:47 PM.