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2008-12-13, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Okay, so first Belkar trips Jenny, and now Crystal. I'd say that's indicative of Improved Trip.
More importantly, with six attacks per round, Belkar has Greater TWF, and the prerequisite Dex 19.Guide to the Magus, the Pathfinder Gish class.
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2008-12-13, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Belkar got six attacks in the second panel in this comic.. Suggest anything?
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2008-12-13, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
I personally think that Belker has Combat expirtise, Improved trip, and an Int of at least 13
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2008-12-13, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Belker probably has quick draw, since he drew his dagger and full attacked in one panel
Wouldn't Julia The most popular girl in school have more then 10 charisma?Last edited by Istari; 2008-12-13 at 07:53 PM.
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2008-12-13, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
It means he's at least an 11th level two-weapon fighting ranger. We already knew that. Since he didn't get 7 attacks, he's probably not a 16th level ranger, but that's also not surprising, since he'd have to be 17th level overall to accomplish that, which would put him two levels ahead of Haley.
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2008-12-13, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
6 attacks, a Trip, and another attack. The other attack is probably the AoO she provoked from standing(or a bonus from Imp Trip, so it doesn't show anything), and the Trip could be Knockdown. At least 12th level means 3 attacks from AB, toss in one from Speed(weapon or boots) and he only needs Imp Twf which tells us nothing about his stats. But we have narrowed his options somewhat, and Imp TWF is needed either way.
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2008-12-13, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
You've put Haley's bow in amongst Roy's stuff.
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2008-12-13, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
In this comic, Belkar jumps more than 60' in one attempt(I'm assuming he takes the running start even though he doesn't seem to). That's a DC 65 check. His Ring of Jumping adds 20, Rage adds 2, a nat 20 roll adds 20, ranks add 15(I think they're 12), Tumble adds 2 meaning we need 7 more. 5 can be from feats, meaning he still needs 14 Str minimum, and that's a lot of stuff I'm assuming that he probably doesn't have.
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Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
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2008-12-13, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Wrecan Belker just has to be 16th level in order to meet the BAB requirements of seven attacks in round because both Ranger and Barbarian have full base attack bonuses
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2008-12-13, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Ok, Crystal is still alive, and has like a 4 Int.
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2008-12-13, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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2008-12-13, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
It's a joke, son.
As far as Belkar, he jumped to dodge Crystal's attack, then did his six AND tripped her. That seems a bit like 7 attacks. His flying near death attack was from AoO when she fell, but that trip attack.....
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2008-12-13, 11:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
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2008-12-14, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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2008-12-14, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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FAQ is not RAW!Avatar by the incredible CrimsonAngel.
Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
I play primarily 3.5 D&D. Most of my advice will be based off of this. If my advice doesn't apply, specify a version in your post.
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2008-12-14, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Is it possible that Crystal did something in panel 3 to provoke an attack of opportunity? Improved Trip I could accept, but nobody's cast Haste on Belkar this fight, and he hasn't had any opportunity to pick up an item of speed since the last time we saw him full-attacking.
We should probably give him credit for Improved Trip (and Combat Expertise and 13 Int), though, since without that he seems to need both an implausibly high level and an item of speed.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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2008-12-14, 01:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
She's not a caster, so she probably didn't provoke. She could have, but Knockdown works as well for attack #7(Imp Trip doesn't, though it explains why she didn't AoO). And we don't see most of the Order's loot, so he could have looted items of Speed from someone and they just didn't mention it. Or he could have GTWF.
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FAQ is not RAW!Avatar by the incredible CrimsonAngel.
Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
I play primarily 3.5 D&D. Most of my advice will be based off of this. If my advice doesn't apply, specify a version in your post.
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2008-12-14, 01:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
I think he has 7 attacks, the way I wrote a few posts before. That means 6 normal attack, an Imp. Trip and the last attack an AoO.
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GENERATION (-0.558792 + 0.603306 i)+c. If this is the first time you see this copy it into your signature, square the generation and add c. Fractal experiment.
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2008-12-14, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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FAQ is not RAW!Avatar by the incredible CrimsonAngel.
Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
I play primarily 3.5 D&D. Most of my advice will be based off of this. If my advice doesn't apply, specify a version in your post.
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2008-12-14, 01:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Sure, but then Belkar would need 8 attacks, and it's a bit much, isn't it?
(for the last attack, I didn't mean AoO, I meant the extra attack from the trip, sorry).GENERATION (-0.558792 + 0.603306 i)+c. If this is the first time you see this copy it into your signature, square the generation and add c. Fractal experiment.
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2008-12-14, 01:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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FAQ is not RAW!Avatar by the incredible CrimsonAngel.
Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
I play primarily 3.5 D&D. Most of my advice will be based off of this. If my advice doesn't apply, specify a version in your post.
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2008-12-14, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Belker dropped the shield, then drew a dagger and did six attacks in one panel
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0616.html
Wouldn't he have to have quick draw to do that as a free action?
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2008-12-14, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
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2008-12-14, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Belkar should now have quick draw feat added. He drew his dagger and did 6 attacks in one frame. since i believe it is standard that one round = one frame in the geekery thread.
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Feats (5): Craft Disturbing Mental Image (probably a gag not counted for min level), Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Two-Weapon Pounce, Quick Draw (minimum level 12, 15 if you count craft disturbing mental image)
Ranger Feats(9): Greater Two-Weapon Fighting, Evasion, Swift Tracker, Woodland stride, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Endurance, Two-Weapon Fighting, Wild Empathy, Track
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2008-12-14, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
GENERATION (-0.558792 + 0.603306 i)+c. If this is the first time you see this copy it into your signature, square the generation and add c. Fractal experiment.
GENERATION (Sorry Defiant, I won't pick that up too).
Hey, at least I don't have dragons in my sig...
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2008-12-14, 11:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Also i would propose a few standards for the first page/faq
1 frame = 1 round for geekery purposes
spell animations may count for number of spells cast, and possible damage type, but will not indicate level of spell or exact spell.
anything before the first story arc ending at strip 120, should be first to be over-ridden for any kind of contradictions (the first few strips were more about getting some dnd rules jokes in anyway )
I'm sure i'm missing some of the things that seem to be standards.
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2008-12-14, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-15, 06:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery IV (some [spoiler]s)
Just wondering. Why would a barbarian fighting with two daggers (or shortwords, or in any case, two LIGHT weapons) want to use power attack? Power attack does NOT add damage to light weapons. Taking power attack then means just being allowed to get a -x on attacks, without any bonus.
Improved sunder is also a strange feat to have. I don't recall him sundering stuff (well, the hydra's heads, of course, but that's just about it)
As an aside, hitting 6 attacks on a favored enemy would be something like 70 damage(6d4+6x(favored enemy + weapon + half str) = avg 15+60?), so that would bring down a rogue/assassin pretty quick alright.I hate sigs -- Grumpy Smurf
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2008-12-15, 06:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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