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2012-09-24, 02:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Use the Constricting Chains from BoED and penalize it via bondage in the name of rightousness (sp?)
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2012-09-24, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
-Cast Surge of Fortune.
-Cast Ray of Entropy,use an immediate action to gain the effect of the Surge of Fortune (treat your next roll as natural 20) and use it to penetrate the spell resistance.
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2012-09-24, 04:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 04:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
OK, we have 9s and we're trying to kill it? Playground, we can do better.
1. Timestop
2. Travel to our personal genesis fast-time demiplane
3. Do whatever research we need to do, find out where this thing came from, and how to make one myself
4. Teleport through time
5. Kill it 20 years ago, or whatever made it 20 years ago (or more)
6. Make one
7. ???
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2012-09-24, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
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Casting it both rounds gives you >90% chance of victory.
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2012-09-24, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Bard wizard.
Pact of return
Wait to die and come back
Silent glibness
Spen the next few minutes convincing it to lower its spell resistance and accept your next "friendly" spell.
Dominate it.
Start your own thread.
Alternatively divine insight up a huge diplomacy check with a high charisma cleric.Last edited by ericgrau; 2012-09-24 at 09:16 AM.
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2012-09-24, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why does everyone keep killing themselves? What's the actual advantage of dying and then coming back to life? Is it in order to get outside of combat?
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2012-09-24, 09:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
The topic has already be solved :/
But next time, please give more informations:
1. How much HD does it have?
2. What creature type does it have?
3. Do we have only two spell lists or do we can use feats or own builds?
4. What about equipment?
If we can use our own build, just attacking it 1,000,000 times should work just fine.
If it has only 1 HD, wish yourself into a vampire and make a negative level - without save.
If it has more HD but not too much, you could Chaos Shuffle your feats into metamagic ones and then go for Maximized Repeated Twinned Split Enervation (lvl16) Quickened Repeated Maximized Split Enervation (lvl16), next round cast Maximized Empowered Twinned Split Enervation (lvl 14) and Quickened Twinned Maximized Split Enervation (lvl17). That is kinda heavy but with a bit optimization it works just fine to fill those highly metamagic'd spells into ur spell slots (i.e. Celerity is a free Quicken). It would be 88 negative levels.
I'm not quiet sure about this, but I think Irresistable Spell cheated around that SR should also work.
Another thing: Vorpal.
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2012-09-24, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Hmm... Good point... I guess I should add more information
1. It has 84,000,000HD. Random number, don't ask
2. It is an Undead. Again, random creature type
3. You have 2 spell list and can use your own feats and builds.
4. You have 20th level WBL so go crazy.
5. The timer goes by 2 rounds for you so Time Stop wouldn't exactly help. Neither would the slow time Genesis laboratory across the cosmos, since the moment 2 rounds pass by for you, you die.
Irresistable Spell only negates Saving throws, not spell resistance.Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-24 at 11:51 AM.
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2012-09-24, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
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2012-09-24, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Dex
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2012-09-24, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 12:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Oh there is a way. If you make it to put your enemy and an ally (summon or something) in you fast time Genesis laboratory across the cosmos, in your 2 rounds the ally can punch him to death using a year.
But there are other ways to ignore SR. I.e. Supernatural Spell might work.
I assume SR=PR, if not it's kinda easy...
Using Roof Jumper is always fun. For massive damage when you jump down from the moon.
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2012-09-24, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.
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2012-09-24, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Would it be possible to boost a Greater Turning attempt to the level it would be effective here?
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2012-09-24, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm. Wonder if a Killer Gnome would work on this bad boy. Succeeding on a saving throw actually makes things worse...
It has 28,000,000 feats. What sorts of things will it have?
It wins all saving throws. Does it win all opposed skill checks? (84,000,000 levels seems to suggest "probably," but a Diplomancer could still make it your fanatical follower...)
A few things from BoED can help. Nimbus of Light ->Holy Radiance feats - stand next to him and he takes damage, no save.
Celestial Brilliance- Takes (minimum)1d6 damage per round as long as he's in the light.
Bunch of other spells in this vein. Get enough Followers casting it, and it'll be death by a thousand cuts pretty soon.Last edited by Telonius; 2012-09-24 at 01:41 PM.
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2012-09-24, 01:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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*Swordsage/Warblade/Crusader1 with Martial Study: White Raven Tactics and Extra Granted Maneuver. By cleverly choosing almost all of the maneuvers that overlap with the crusader list with your Swordsage and Warblade levels, you have more granted maneuvers than maneuvers known, so all of your maneuvers refresh at the beginning of each of your turns.
Buy a custom saddle, so your familiar can ride you. You now act on your familiar's initiative count, and we can ignore those pesky arguments about not being your own ally.
1. Use Vitriolic Blast (hit on a 20 if nothing else)
2. Use WRT on your familiar giving both of you another turn this round
3. At the beginning of your turn refresh WRT.
4. ???
5. ProfitLast edited by dextercorvia; 2012-09-24 at 01:39 PM.
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
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2012-09-24, 01:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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You should edit back into the OP each successive iteration of the creature that we have defeated (the 1Hp version, and the 1million HP version), so people reading the thread don't get confused.
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2012-09-24, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-24, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Since its AC is unspecified (and presumed to be hittable?), I am a CG Pixie Crusader 11/Cleric of Kord 1 (or some RKV analogue that has an IL of 11) with a dagger, the stance Aura of Chaos, and the Luck domain. I win initiative (or deny its DEX bonus some other, more reliable way), activate my wand of Wraithstrike in the chamber, and then I make it rain. Its AC is 10 (because it is touch and flat), so even if it has NI AC, I can still swing it... And I have the feats to spare for the Mage Slayer line, as well.
What will the next iteration look like?Last edited by Lonely Tylenol; 2012-09-24 at 01:56 PM.
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2012-09-24, 02:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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V.4: Creature has Undead creature type, 1 billion HP, 84 million HD, 1 str, 1 dex, -con, -int, 1 wis, 1 cha, DR 15/-, Fire, Cold, Lightning, Acid & Sonic Resistance 10. Status: Not dead yet
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2012-09-24, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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... I wonder if just flat out immunity to daggers would be fair...
... Nah... That's cheap... Alright, I'll give it to you. You've killed the Stuffy Doll's latest iteration (maybe Amazo? idk...)
Back to the drawing board
He's Undead and therefore immune to the fortitude save that he passed just for the lulz. I do like you're idea though so cookie for you.
EDIT: Next Incarnation is up. I know I could have just added flat out regeneration (ala Big-T), but being immune to damage flat out would have just been a little unfair...Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-09-24 at 02:22 PM.
Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
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2012-09-24, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Crit it with a Ghost Touch Heavenly Burst Weapon (BoED). It won't take extra damage from the crit, but the burst property will activate, dealing it 1d2Str damage (no save).
EDIT: Oil of Bless Weapon will confirm a critical hit. Trying to track down the source of this, but apparently there's something called a "Wasp Bounty Hunter" prestige class from Rokugan that lets an archer take 20 on an attack if he uses a full-round action. (This may be mythical or homebrew, will update this if I find out anything else).Last edited by Telonius; 2012-09-24 at 02:49 PM.
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2012-09-24, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
Dex
SpoilerRegarding my Necrotic Apprentice trick:
Regarding my Non-Epic Hidecarved Dragon:
Check out the Versatile Domain Generalist.
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2012-09-24, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 2 rounds to kill a target that has infinite SR and is immune to Saving Throws
That has precisely nothing to do with spells. I'm pretty sure that's not what the OP wanted. Also, you seem to be overestimating your ability to deal with NI AC. You aren't touching Luck, Profane, Sacred, Insight or Deflection bonuses with that combo, and Mage Slayer only works against AC from spells or spell-like effects. A creature with an infinite innate or supernatural bonus of any of the above defeats you. That said, I'm not sure that it is killable with spells at this point. I mean, a Hulking Hurler could easily take it down in one hit, with a billion or so d6 of damage from throwing a dwarf star at it, in addition to your silly quasi-RAW d2 Crusader.
Let's see... Yeah, that might work. One side is psionics, the other side is a DMM Cleric. Max out Diplomacy. Have Lightning Mace and Diehard. You suck with your maces, but nobody cares. You'll need Psicrystal Containment as well, but that's covered by your Psion levels.
Step 1: Prepare contingent resurrection effect. You're going to be dealing a billion damage to yourself before the day is up. This should be before your two rounds begin.
Step 2: DMM: Persist Delay Death. This is just generally useful, so should be up at all times.
Step 3: Diplomance the abomination to Helpful. Manifest Quickened Share Pain expending your Psicrystal's psionic focus. Convince the abomination to accept the spell using awesome Diplomancer skills.
Step 4: Round 2. Manifest Quickened Death Urge on yourself, purposefully failing the save. Begin a Full Attack with your Lightning Mace. Since you auto-hit and auto-crit until you drop unconscious, and you get to choose when you drop unconscious thanks to Diehard, you can continue to hit yourself until you have taken one billion damage. The abomination takes the same damage and dies. You are now unconscious at about negative one billion HP. With some luck you will naturally recover to 0 HP before Delay Death wears off. If not...
Step 5: Contingent Resurrection. Victory!
This should work on anything not entirely immune to damage. It can deal any amount of damage entirely ignoring saves, SR, DR, AC and immunities since the damage is untyped non-physical and the actual target is you. The only way to not die from this method is to be immune to Diplomacy (by being a PC, for example) or immunity to Damage entirely. I can speed it up to one round using Schism or Temporal Acceleration if necessary.Avatar by the wonderful SubLimePie. Former avatar by Andraste.