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Just realized that this isn't the anime thread. Let's take this discussion over there to continue.
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Immediately thoughts are 1) WIZARDS?!?!?!! Why do you do obviously dysfunctional things? Did you just think people could take the feats? 2) That's not really a good reason.
As for suggestions: A class feature that either lets you invest essentia into a fire spell, invest essentia in the class feature to improve fire spells, invest essentia into any spell to add fire damage to it (possibly with a different rate of essentia to damage if it is single target or if it is an area/multi-target), or note that NeoPhoenix has a noted love of teleportation effects so possibly grant them the ability to shape Blink Shirt regardless of base meldshaper class, possibly even gaining its Totem bind effect as a freebie bonus, or another ability related to teleportation.
Fullmetal Alchemist is scary I vaguely remember the original anime being creepy at times at night as a child. The manga was... a fun little romp.
And from what I've heard Log Horizon is more accurate to MMOs but not really that type of gamer.Peanut Half-Dragon Necromancer by Kurien.
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So I decided to go through and fully proof-read your PrC for me Zaydos, and I have a few suggestions.
- The Iron Body Ability: Increase the DR by one (for a nice DR 5, which is simpler), and then change the Natural Armor bonus to a simple 1/2 CON modifier. Should be less broken that way, but still rather useful. You might even consider removing the Natural Armor bonus entirely, but I wouldn't really suggest it.
- Looking at Endure Pain, I have a few suggestions. Firstly, try making it a scaling ability, like "At 2nd level, you gain immunity to the sickened condition, at 5th level they become immune to nauseated, at 8th level they become immune to staggered", or something along those lines. They should also gain immunity to the effects of Symbol of Pain or similar things.
- Remove Willing Deformity. It doesn't make much sense with the class overall, but can be easily picked by anyone who wants to fluff their character like that.
- Reducing the Steely Resolve to 20 works. Dunno much beyond that.
- Unflinching Loyalty doesn't make much sense overall. I'd suggest removing it.
- Greater Iron Soul should maybe be just 4 point reduction in ability damage. I'm aware that it's based on a Soulmeld, but meh.
- Some aggro-drawing or BFC abilities would be nice. Maybe consider replacing furious counterstrike with something. Possibly being able to bull-rush multiple opponents away or creating difficult terrain around you.
- Iron Juggernaut should have the strength bonus to breaking things dropped to +4. Nerfs it a bit, but still keeps it powerful. Also, possibly consider dropping the immunity to a solid bonus to saves against those conditions, though there are certain no-saves that inflict those abilities. Hmmmm...
- Some of the things you detailed in your block of text earlier should be of use, and I'm too lazy to list specific ones.
- Possibly give them a buffing aura, not sure of what sort.
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- Still split on removing the Con to AC entirely (if it ends up above +3 AC they're putting a lot of resources into Con and losing other resources for it; +4, for example requires 18 + 2 racial + 6 item). 3 AC is reasonable, but could probably be moved up to a higher level especially if things get removed.
- Endure Pain: I wouldn't make it scale up to immunity to nauseated because that's actually already a pretty mild ability, I mean warforged get a much larger suite of immunities, should probably expand it to include sickened, though. Staggered is... very rare in 3.5, but I know it is more common in PF so I can't really say how much it is worth.
- Mostly was just a minor thing for a then empty level and to give them that horrifically scarred look.
- Steely Resolve is fun, but yeah, making it so that at level 15 they equal a crusader at level 15 keeping it more reasonable.
- Then how are you supposed to serve Snow and Red Even my more serious things here might include jokes.
- Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Probably leave the reduced Drain resistance, as it is comes up rarely enough but can still be very useful.
- Got to figure out ones that could really fit without seeming really off. It would actually make them much more powerful in actual play, but probably more fun.
- They're each in and of themselves a very minor immunity, unless you're a full caster. It's at a level where Mind-Affecting immunity is coming online (which protects against many sources of daze/stun). Probably going to drop the break object/grapple to +4, though, and possibly split it into 2 abilities.
- I also realized that while they suffer no effects from negative levels they can suffer permanent level loss from them making the ability as written a lot less useful... I'm going to say that's a good bad bug. You can ignore negative levels in the short run, but better make sure you have a good Fort save 24 hours from now.
- Hmm... would make them more PC friendly.
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Nitpick: wouldn't it be better if regulars who already got a PrC were either listed under "Permission" with an asterisk or if their names were specified beside their PrCs? I know we should be encouraged to write about people who don't have a PrC yet, but with the current form someone who reads the discussion for the first time has to browse all the PrCs to see if the one user he wants to write about has given permission.
EDIT: Nevermind. I realized that the sweep is added to the OP instead of replacing it. Good job!Last edited by Uncle Pine; 2015-06-01 at 09:38 AM.
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It's been a thing for a while (at least as far as I'm concerned).
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Anybody know a feat that involves potions, alchemy, or booze which a single class warlock can take and use by 6th level?
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for shenanigans sake I khadgar567 give my permission( despite I may not count as regular)
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I don't know who counts as a Regular and whether I do, but if someone's interested, I give permission !
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Junior Tormlet
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Requirements
Deity: Torm
Special: Must be taken as an apprentice by a Paladin of Torm.
Class Skills
The Junior Tormlet’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (nobility and royalty) (Int), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Sense Motive (Wis), and Spellcraft (Int).
Skill Points at Each Additional Level
2 + Int modifier.
Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Class Features Spellcasting 1st +1 +2 +0 +0 Duty of Three, Divine Grace +1 level of existing spellcasting class 2nd +2 +3 +0 +0 Chosen Smite 1/day +1 level of existing spellcasting class 3rd +3 +3 +1 +1 Journey of Absolution +1 level of existing spellcasting class 4th +4 +4 +1 +1 Chosen Smite 2/day - 5th +5 +4 +1 +1 Purge Evil, Aura of Courage +1 level of existing spellcasting class 6th +6 +5 +2 +2 Chosen Smite 3/day +1 level of existing spellcasting class 7th +7 +5 +2 +2 Lay on Hands +1 level of existing spellcasting class 8th +8 +6 +2 +2 Chosen Smite 4/day - 9th +9 +6 +3 +3 Final Absolution +1 level of existing spellcasting class 10th +10 +7 +3 +3 Tempered Resolve, Chosen Smite 5/day +1 level of existing spellcasting class
Class Features
All the following are Class Features of the Junior Tormlet prestige class.
Weapon and Armor Proficiency
Junior Tormlets are proficient with all types of armor and the greatsword.
Duty of Three
A Junior Tormlet is now responsible for fulfilling the Penance of Duty, Debt of Dereliction, and Debt of Destruction.
Divine Grace (Su)
A Junior Tormlet gains a bonus equal to their Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws.
Chosen Smite
A Junior Tormlet chooses one of two tools to aid them against evil. You may select to gain the benefit of the Smiting Spell feat or a Paladin's Smite Evil class feature.
You gain one use of this per day every even class level.
Journey of Absolution
You have begun your journey towards the path of righteousness. If your paladin mentor deems you worthy, he may bring you into a temple of Torm to have atonement cast on you. This will bring your alignment one step closer to Lawful Good.
If this would cause to become unqualified for a feat or class, ignore the alignment requirement for that feat or class.
Purge Evil
You gain the benefits of Favored Enemy against any creature that worships Bane as their patron deity.
Aura of Courage (Su)
A Junior Tormlet is immune to fear (magical or otherwise). Each ally within 10 feet of her gains a +4 morale bonus on saving throws against fear effects.
This ability functions while the Junior Tormlet is conscious, but not if they are unconscious or dead.
Lay on Hands (Su)
A Junior Tormlet with a Charisma score of 12 or higher can heal wounds (their own or those of others) by touch. Each day they can heal a total number of hit points of damage equal to their spellcaster level × their Charisma bonus. A Junior Tormlet may choose to divide their healing among multiple recipients, and they don't have to use it all at once. Using lay on hands is a standard action.
Alternatively, a Junior Tormlet can use any or all of this healing power to deal damage to undead creatures. Using lay on hands in this way requires a successful melee touch attack and doesn’t provoke an attack of opportunity. The Junior Tormlet decides how many of her daily allotment of points to use as damage after successfully touching an undead creature.
Final Absolution
You have completed your journey towards righteousness. If your paladin mentor deems you worthy, he may bring you into a temple of Torm to have atonement cast on you. This will change your alignment to Lawful Good.
If this would cause to become unqualified for a feat or class, ignore the alignment requirement for that feat or class.
Tempered Resolve (Su)
A Junior Tormlet is constantly surrounded by a magic circle against evil effect, as the spell cast by a cleric of the Tormlet's character level.
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Thanks. Could you clarify the BAB and Save charts, please? The wording on the Curse effects would indicate party members are generally affected, which could be tricky in actual gameplay. The Aging thing is. . . odd, as in I'm not sure why it's included, let alone considered a (Su) ability. Also, I'm a little confused about the separate spellcasting list/requirement, if this is intended to be Hexblade friendly.