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    Default Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    My group's settled on Shadowrun for our first game (we'll be using the 4th Edition Anniversary rules), and I'm looking for general recommendations and advice.

    Our first session will be to run through a oneshot with pregenerated characters to get a feel for the rules and ambiance. Can anyone recommend an available mission? Ideally the run would be short (being new to the mechanics will slow us down quite a bit), touch on a wide variety of rules aspects, and have a nice gritty feel to it. I'm leaning towards doling out the Street Samurai, Bounty Hunter, and Combat Mage from the Catalyst Quick-Start Rules to my three players.

    In more general terms, can anyone recommend specific GM resources? Are there any can't live without helper programs to make play run smoothly? Any particularly broken rules that need a patch? Advice on group composition to that everyone in the three player team can share the limelight?

    Based on a bit of SR 2E experience long ago, I'm strongly inclined to make Matrix related stuff the domain of NPCs unless a player is very interested in playing a decker. Am I short-changing our fun if I do this?

    Thanks for any advice or thoughts.

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    Default Re: Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    First off, the Shadowrun 4e pregens in the books are kinda infamously poorly done. Not illegal, but rather impossibly poorly done. Things like a weapons master without multiple initiative passes and such, and a general ineptitude in their design, and don't tend to be very broad in their abilities. Not sure what to do otherwise, given SR 4A character generation tends to take long enough to be prohibitive for a one-shot, but you might want to know.

    Second, IMHO, it's a bit easier to run a hacker as an integral part of a run in 4e due to it working on the same general rules as everything else - I've seen combats go on where there's simultaneous hacking going on that's effecting the battle. But if none of your PC's want to be one, you can certainly handle it with NPCS.

    Third - there's two optional rules proposed in the books I'm a big fan of. First, from Arsenal, is the custom rule where you can have armor custom-fitted to allow a maximum of Body x3 armor before encumbrance, which makes it a bit easier to build characters who won't immediately fold over like tissue paper in a gunfight, but that may be a personal taste issue. Otherwise, I like the stat-based computer actions rule from Unwired where instead of computer rolls being Skill+Program Rating, they're Stat+Skill capped at the rating number of hits, like a spell. (A houserule on that is to allow technomancers to use Resonance for their computer check skills to decrease MAD slightly.)
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    Default Re: Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    I would recommend checking out the Dumpshock forums.
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    Default Re: Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    Food Fight is often seen as one of the traditional short one-shots; On the Run is another that you might look into.
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    Default Re: Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    Food Fight and On the Run are both classics.

    There's the official missions too (many of them free), which I recommend. The Grab in particular appeals to me.

    The Matrix rules are... difficult to use without slowing things down and you'll find several rewrites of those rules that makes it so that it slows things down less.

    Apart from that: AIs should not be playable using the official rules (they're broken in more ways than on) and Uncouth is a death sentence for every character who takes it.
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    Default Re: Rookie GM starting Shadowrun: oneshots and other advice, please

    Thanks for the help all. Dumpshock is a great find, and the missions look like good one-shots.

    Are the source-book pregens bad but balanced against equally bad mission NPCs, or should I look for another source of characters? (It looks like Dumpshock has a thread of statted out characters).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downtime View Post
    Are the source-book pregens bad but balanced against equally bad mission NPCs, or should I look for another source of characters? (It looks like Dumpshock has a thread of statted out characters).
    The pregens from the original 4th edition book are mathematically bad. As in wrong. The math is incorrect on most, if not all of them.

    The pregens from the 4th edition Anniversary book are mathematically sound, but they aren't optimized to the degree that even novice players to the system tend to make characters. As a rule, they're fine to use for 1-shots as long as 1) the group is new, and 2) they ONLY use the pre-gens. Combining pre-gens with custom characters is asking for trouble. The pre-gens are generally good enough against most street-level NPCs...if you're going up against gangers and such (see also: Food Fight), they'll be fine. If you're going up against Red Samurai, you're sasquatch chow.

    If you want to use a more high-powered group of pre-gens, the character assistance subforum on the official SR4 boards (NOT Dumpshock!) has a large list of more...optimized...pre-gens that aren't totally broken. I prefer, though, to start brand new players to SR with the "official" book pre-gens. First, they have nice art. Second, they reinforce a major concept in Shadowrun that you shouldn't depend on your stats to carry you through a run - you should depend on good tactics and a good plan. Not having the stats there to fall back upon reinforces that concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordguy View Post
    If you're going up against Red Samurai, you're sasquatch chow.
    Sasquatch are vegetarians. [/obnoxious pedant]
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