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2012-11-03, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
I'm not seeing it. Read through the handbook and just cant fit it together, so could someone explain to me how a totemist can get 16 ranged attacks at highest attack bonus?
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2012-11-03, 09:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Sixteen ranged attacks? All at full accuracy?
Well, let's go with sixteen melee attacks. That's easy enough to convert to ranged.
Now, is it pure totemist? Warshaper? Any particular race? Whoever told you this might be misreading how Skarn spines work.Avatar of George the Dragon Slayer, from the upcoming Indivisible!
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2012-11-03, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Sixteen ranged attacks? Probably from gratuitous use of Manticore Belt, but I'm kind of having trouble figuring out how one could invest sixteen essentia into a single soulmeld.
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2012-11-03, 10:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=583
Last sentence of the 3rd paragraph is where its stated, but no description of how.
So whats the highest amount of attacks you can get from a totemist if that is not correct? Highest in ranged and highest in melee?
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2012-11-03, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
You can fling 6 Manticore spines in one action at level 20, but I can't figure out 16. 6x2=12 if you've got a Belt of Battle. Other ways to get extra standards?
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2012-11-03, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
A 20th level totemist could have up to 6 essentia in the manticore belt. Expanded soulmeld capacity increases that to 7 essentia. I'm guessing there is another way that I'm not seeing to put an 8th essentia into the belt and then a way to get a second standard action?
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2012-11-03, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Ok, belt of battle gets us up to 14. Still missing one more essentia into the belt.
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2012-11-03, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-03, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Manticore belt on Totem bind.
At 20th level: Base 4 essentia into Totem, +2 capacity from class features, +1 capacity from expanded soulmeld capacity. 7 total essentia investment.
Level 20 class feature: totem embodiment effectively doubles your essentia capacity for your totem. Lasts a number of minutes equal to your Con modifier. 14 total capacity.
Belt of Battle: 1 extra standard action.
Result: 28 ranged attacks at full BAB once a day.
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2012-11-03, 10:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Incarnum Focus item (waist), maybe?
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2012-11-03, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
It would have to be incarnum focus item (totem), which doesn't exist
Edit: Actually, no, this works. The incarnum focus adds to the capacity of the soulmeld, not the chakra. So, as long as you could also bind your maticore belt to your waist as well as your totem (double totem bind at level 11), you can get its capacity up to 8.Last edited by Deophaun; 2012-11-03 at 10:36 PM.
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2012-11-03, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
That is different than what the handbook says, but quite a bit better! And it is activate the level 20 ability 1/day, duration is 1 minute per con bonus. So it would easily be a full fight you would have 28*(d6+1/2 str).
Too bad it does not come online until 20th level =(
With belt of battle even at lower levels you'd have semi decent blasting out of that.
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2012-11-03, 10:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-03, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Use your soulmelds to get a ton of melee attacks and then go bloodstorm blade?
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2012-11-03, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
I am a bit new to Incarnum, but sounds a little murky to me. From what I'm reading, Soulmelds bound to the Totem chakra don't actually occupy the Totem chakra (in the case of Manticore Belt, it would occupy the waist). So wouldn't something something making the Waist chakra have a bigger capacity, also (indirectly) affect Waist-occupying soulmelds that are bound to the Totem?
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2012-11-03, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
I was thinking that, but we need belt of battle to pull this off. Of course, I think that explains where the original author got his numbers from.
He was useing incarnum focus (waist) which increases the essentia by one. So we have 4 base, two for totemist, 1 for incarnum focus, and one from expanded soulmeld capacity. He's useing totem chakra bind (double bind) to bind the manticore belt to both waist and totem chakra. That gives him 8 essentia, and then totem embodiement to double it for 16 attacks.
I like 7 attacks and belt of battle more =)
Maybe get your gm to let you have a ring of battle instead of belt of battle... or combine belt of battle with the incarnum focus. That would net you 32 attacks.
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2012-11-03, 10:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Manticore belt with expanded essentia capacity feat and the totemist class ability giving extra capacity to totem chakra. At lvl 20 that's 8 spines on the manticore belt. Extra double chakra so you can wear a belt of battle, there's 16. THEN pick up an amulet of nat attacks and put the splitting enhancement on it. That's 32 ranged attacks.
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2012-11-03, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-03, 11:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-03, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
How would dips affect this? I dont know the rules on thayan gladiator, but it it supposed to be able to increase the number of natural attacks. Would a couple level dip get you to 2x natural attacks? You'd lose the level 20 capstone, but much earlier have more attacks?
Factotum would take 8 levels. You'd lose a lot to gain a couple extra actions a day.
Any other ideas to max out the number of attacks?
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2012-11-03, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-04, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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How are you guys wearing Incarnum Focus (waist), Manticore Belt, and a Belt of Battle all at the same time?
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2012-11-04, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-04, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does a totemist get 16 attacks?
Well I can get 18 melle attacks with Dervish quite easily, though not all at full BAB
BAB 16+, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Haste, Slashing Fury for 9 and then A Thousand Cuts doubles that; only 1/day however.π = 4
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2012-11-04, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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