Warhammer 40K Tabletop VIII: "You're Gonna have To Face It, You're Addicted To Math"

[Ninja Chocobo]

Ninja Chocobo:

I have read the codex, you realise.
Point taken on the Lord; I'll only split him off when he's closer to the lines.

[TheThan]

I have read the codex, you realise.
Point taken on the Lord; I'll only split him off when he's closer to the lines.

The thing on the terminators is more of a tactical thing, also you’d be amazed how many people don’t know their own codex. I mean I’ve come across a lot of people that misconstrue “and they shall know no fear” to mean they have the fearless special rule.

[cdstephens]

I might eventually pick this up within a year or two, but I have no idea what race I would pick. I have experience playing DoW though, and read a bit of a book.

[Razaele]

Just to make sure there is no rules misinterpretation going on here - you are aware that if the Rhinos have moved, the Marines inside cannot assault anymore that turn, right? Admittedly, if he uses his smoke launchers after his first movement, that can still bring him very close to your lines and allow him to leave and potentially still assault on the subsequent turn, but Dawn of War or not, you should have at the very least one turn of good shooting at him.

Though yes, Dawn of War is horrible for shooty armies.

Yes, I am aware of this rule. The problem was that he got first turn, which let him move his Death Company with a Reclusiarch in a Rhino into my deployment zone. His Flying Dreadnought of doom was then flew 24', while the rest of the army zoomed along at 18'. Since almost my entire army has Heavy weapons, I could not shoot on the first turn. I also tried to avoid his army by deploying my Devastators as far as I possibly could, with my Scouts acting as a screen. Yes, I did have an entire turn of shooting. But before I got to shoot, he moved 18' with his Rhino then popped smoke, and flew his Librarian Dreadnought another 24' to give it a 3+ cover save. Needless to say, I was not able to do much damage. In fact, I only ever got to stun his Rhino, and by then it was too little too late.

Dawn of War is horrible for most armies. Its basically the "see how well you can do when everything is screwed up" deployment type.

Yeah, but to be honest I feel that Assault armies are a lot less gimped by this than Shooty armies. This could be my inexperience talking though, and I could be wrong.

[Psychotic]

Yes, I am aware of this rule. The problem was that he got first turn, which let him move his Death Company with a Reclusiarch in a Rhino into my deployment zone. His Flying Dreadnought of doom was then flew 24', while the rest of the army zoomed along at 18'. Since almost my entire army has Heavy weapons, I could not shoot on the first turn. I also tried to avoid his army by deploying my Devastators as far as I possibly could, with my Scouts acting as a screen. Yes, I did have an entire turn of shooting. But before I got to shoot, he moved 18' with his Rhino then popped smoke, and flew his Librarian Dreadnought another 24' to give it a 3+ cover save. Needless to say, I was not able to do much damage. In fact, I only ever got to stun his Rhino, and by then it was too little too late.



Yeah, but to be honest I feel that Assault armies are a lot less gimped by this than Shooty armies. This could be my inexperience talking though, and I could be wrong.

It's because he cheated. The "Flying Dreadnought of Doom" (Librarian Dread) that has cast Wings of Sanguinius can only move 12" just like any jump infantry, not bike or jetbike. Jump Infantry cannot turbo boost, although they can take a run action in lieu of shooting.

[Closet_Skeleton]

It's because he cheated. The "Flying Dreadnought of Doom" (Librarian Dread) that has cast Wings of Sanguinius can only move 12" just like any jump infantry, not bike or jetbike. Jump Infantry cannot turbo boost, although they can take a run action in lieu of shooting.

Wings of Sanguinius does let a biker librarian fly like a jetbike though, which is an idea for an awesome conversion but little else.

Only way to make a dreadnought fly 24" is to put him in a Storm Raven.

[Razaele]

Oh dear. Well, I wouldn't say he cheated since I know him very well. He's new to the Blood Angels rules so he probably just remembered the rules wrong. Oh well, lesson learned. I think I had better start boning up on the Blood Angels Codex myself, since everyone in our local club seems to be moving from other Space Marine Codices to the Blood Angels Codex.

[Zorg]

Since we've hit the big 5-0 and the convos seem to have been concluded for the moment, new thread time!



NEW THREAD





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[Closet_Skeleton]

aaah, new thread popped up just as I posted.