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2019-08-17, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-17, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-17, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Not-Roy" is too vague to wager gp or quatloos. Also, what counts as destroying? 'Cause Roy has already done the deed if you mean corporeal destruction.
10 quatloos = Roy destroys the physical body of Xykon.
10 quatloos = Redcloak destroys the phylactery.
1000 quatloos = the true identity of Redcloak's niece will remain a secret until the sequel book, 'Broken Hearts and Broken Skulls.'
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2019-08-17, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-18, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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I kind of assumed that the point of Belkar's protection from evil cloak would be to eventually show that he's no longer evil at some point.
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2019-08-18, 10:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-19, 02:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-19, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-19, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Since no one else has said it, I'll say it: The Snarl. Roy's already hurled his bones at a gate once before to finish him off, I could see it being done again, only into the rift where he's either torn to shreds, or in the trope of every movie/videogame ever, merges with the Snarl, leaving Roy and Redcloak to somehow distract him while the Gods seal him for good.
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2019-08-19, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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With a name like KilKil, his parents almost begged that someone murder him... He should be called YakYak
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2019-08-19, 05:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I see it as being less likely that the Snarl would fuse with him in any way, and more likely that the Snarl would devour him and then realize there's someone right outside the gate, thus causing small tendrils to leak out and shred everything around it like what Laurin did.
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2019-08-19, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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My money is on Roy trapping Xykon in a way that renders him not a threat (maybe getting him to destroy a magic artifact and lose all arcane spellcasting permanently, then shunt him to another plane?), thus trapping Eugene on the clouds. Perfect fate for all: Roy fulfills his duty while Eugene and Xykon are bored out of their skulls for all eternity.
Only catch is, I also expect V to lose all spellcasting ability as well, because that is the obvious conclusion to V's arc. Probably only Roy, Haley, and Elan walk away unscathed at the end of it all, I think.Last edited by drazen; 2019-08-19 at 08:28 PM.
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2019-08-19, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Roy only got into celestia the first time around because he died while actively trying to fulfill the oath. If he deliberately goes out of his way not to I don't think he'll get to just waltz back in. Also that sequence of events is so convoluted and hard to set up I really don't think Roy would ever hatch that plan in the first place let alone actually execute it.
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2019-08-19, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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I still personally think that one of the Snarl gates/rifts is going to get plane-shifted onto the Astral Plane, and upon destabilizing and detonating, will one-shot Xykon's big bad tomb-fortress into floating rubble. Possibly with Xykon or somebody else inside.
Is this like that meme where some guy bet $20 on that World Cup semifinal a few years back for Germany to beat Brazil 7-1 with Sami Khedira scoring, and ended up making just shy of $50,000?
I like the book-ends aspect of this, and it certainly seems possible that Xykon, after level-grinding for quite a while at Kraagor's Tomb, is probably so deep into epic levels that even RC and the Order combined could not take him down.
I also like that said Snarl-doom-ending reminds me of Megabyte getting pulled to his (apparent) doom in a portal to the Web at the end of ReBoot's third season (of course, he came back in a much more dangerous form, but still).
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2019-08-20, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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It also has his most badass fortifications and traps prepared. If he sees forces coming for him which he feels are too much for him to handle, he'll still want to face them on his own terms, rather than relatively out in the open like Kraagor's Tomb would be.
It would also subvert the expectations of anyone who feels that just because Xykon has an astral-plane fortress means that anyone will go there to do anything significant. Also, the fact that he trusted Redcloak enough to lay a bunch of protective spells on the place would probably mean more distress for Xykon that Redcloak would have any hand in its destruction.I prepared Explosive Runes before writing this signature.
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2019-08-20, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 06:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Not saying he would deliberately engineer it that way - more that he'd be trying to fulfill it, see a way to end Xykon's threat, and take the opportunity if it presents itself.
My thought this morning to tie it all together was that V will lose all spellcasting, make themself into a magic item somehow (can a person be a magic item in D&D?), trick Xykon into blasting them, and then he's just a lich with no spells. How he'd then get trapped for all eternity is something I have not worked out yet.SpoilerI Am A: Chaotic Neutral Human Sorcerer (5th Level)
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2019-08-20, 06:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Banjo could do it if you gave Elan a Fine sword.
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2019-08-20, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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He DID cast a bunch of protective spells on it.
I thought when O-Chull tried to break it Xykon said that "we" had put so many abjurations on it, but he actually said "there are so many abjurations on it"."Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2019-08-20, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's the fakelactery, not the astral-plane fortress, which is what TheNecrocomicon was talking about.
ETA: Wait, found it a few strips later. Xykon takes RC to the fortress to cast spells off-panel before moving on to the pyramid.
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2019-08-20, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 10:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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1. Xykon will be killed, if only because his whole arc is about avoiding death and the Big Fire Below. I can imagine Xykon waking up there with the IFCC (and Belkar? Vaarsuvius? Tiamat?) there waiting to see him.
2. I think Xykon’s phylactery will survive log enough to realize he’s been betrayed.
3. Destroying the phylactery would leave Redcloak without a holy symbol, unless he has his backup handy. That might be interesting.The Giant says: Yes, I am aware TV Tropes exists as a website. ... No, I have never decided to do something in the comic because it was listed on TV Tropes. I don't use it as a checklist for ideas ... and I have never intentionally referenced it in any way.
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2019-08-20, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-20, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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He does right now. The Order knows the phylactery is Redcloak’s holy symbol, but they might not all recognize which one. Only Vaarsuvius got a really good look. If they take the wrong one, Redcloak may not have the backup on him when he needs it.
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2019-08-20, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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That might be why Rich changed the design, compare this:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0901.html
To this:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1036.html
The design changed to match the phylactery meaning V probably couldn’t tell them apart either, which is interesting to say the least.
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2019-08-20, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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That suggests a different plot point: that the Order obtains Redcloak’s holy symbol, which Redcloak knows is real, but Xykon thinks is fake. That only makes sense (in my opinion) when Redcloak has a reason to keep the real phylactery safe without tipping his hand to Xykon (something like, “Sir, we must give chase! We want them to think it’s real. If we don’t go after it, they’ll know it’s fake.”) because that creates conflict. If the Order gets the real one, then Redcloak doesn’t get to destroy it, and I rather think he will; I don’t really foresee Redcloak saying, “Godspeed, be sure to use Disjunction, here’s a couple scrolls of Greater Dispel, you’ll need them.”
Instead, I think the Order will send someone in (Haley? Belkar?) to take one, get the wrong one, leaving Reddy with the real one and no backup. They only realize it’s the wrong one when they get it back to V.
Heck, it’d be hilarious if V brought the phylactery to the IFCC somehow. Then Xykon could be killed, wake up helpless in Hell inside his phylactery, in the hands of the IFCC. Dunno how that would work, though. Sabine?Last edited by Fish; 2019-08-20 at 11:30 AM.