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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas-Dakota View Post
    Wasn't it ''ich bin Dallas''?

    Or perhaps ''heibe'' was ''am called'' where as ''bin'' is ''am'', so both would be correct....

    Also apprently my english is nearly good enough to get accepted by english uni. Orso I was told.(By checking online how high my results actually are compared to things)

    Sadly I can't go check on the internet, since I have to get some rest now.
    German skills to the rescue!

    "heißen" means "to be called", while "bin" means "I am", because it's the first person form of "sein", which means "to be".

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    Quote Originally Posted by KilltheToy View Post
    German skills to the rescue!

    "heißen" means "to be called", while "bin" means "I am", because it's the first person form of "sein", which means "to be".

    Any questions?
    Why is "to be" the most infernally complex verb in the world?

    In English we've got

    to be -> I am, you are, he/she is, we are, they are

    Spanish is

    ser -> soy, eres, es, somos, (sois), son


    I don't know any other languages. But still . . . WTF, people? Is German similarly bizarre and unrelated to the infinitive?
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    Wow, that's some slow reaction time you've got there.

    What annoys me more is that there isn't any new Venture Brothers.
    Wait, isn't there a new series of Venture Brothers on now in the states?
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    Is "verschnörkelt" not the best German word ever?

    Sein > Ich bin, du bist, er ist, wir sind, ihr seid, sie sind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauve Shirt View Post
    Is "verschnörkelt" not the best German word ever?
    Nah, that would be "Lebensmittelvergiftung", which I really do hope I've spelt correctly, especially given my next point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauve Shirt View Post
    Sein > Ich bin, du bist, er ist, wir sind, ihr seid, sie sind.
    Is that irregular? It sure looks irregular to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Is that irregular? It sure looks irregular to me.
    Yeah, it is very much irregular. Half the forms of the present tense in German are just the infinitive.
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    Hm.
    Jestem(I am), jesteś(you are), jest(he/she/it is), są(they are), jesteście(you are), jesteśmy(we are).
    In Polish, it's strangely regular.
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    In Polish, it's strangely regular.
    Except for plural 3rd, which makes no sense compared to the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Why is "to be" the most infernally complex verb in the world?

    In English we've got

    to be -> I am, you are, he/she is, we are, they are

    Spanish is

    ser -> soy, eres, es, somos, (sois), son


    I don't know any other languages. But still . . . WTF, people? Is German similarly bizarre and unrelated to the infinitive?
    You missed "sos" in the Spanish ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fostire View Post
    You missed "sos" in the Spanish ones.


    1st sing.: (yo) soy
    2nd sing., informal: (tú) eres
    3rd sing./2nd sing. formal: (él/ella/usted) es
    1st pl.: (nosotros) somos
    2nd pl. informal: (vosotros) sois
    3rd pl./2nd pl. formal: (ellos/ellas/ustedes) son

    I don't see anything missing.


    Edit: unless that was a weird joke.
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    Yes. Yes, there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post


    1st sing.: (yo) soy
    2nd sing., informal: (tú) eres
    3rd sing./2nd sing. formal: (él/ella/usted) es
    1st pl.: (nosotros) somos
    2nd pl. informal: (vosotros) sois
    3rd pl./2nd pl. formal: (ellos/ellas/ustedes) son

    I don't see anything missing.
    "vos sos" is the same as "tu eres". But don't worry if you've never heard it, as far as I know it is only used that way in Argentina and Uruguay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il'deav Ilah'naie View Post
    Except for plural 3rd, which makes no sense compared to the others.
    Fairly timid compared to, say, French. Although one might argue that a single oddity among the similar forms is more irregular than all forms being different. I haven't gotten that far in my linguistic studies yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fostire View Post
    "vos sos" is the same as "tu eres". But don't worry if you've never heard it, as far as I know it is only used that way in Argentina and Uruguay
    silly dialectical differences

    Technically I don't have to know the vosotros form either. But I figure it's best to keep it in mind.

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    Ahh, the Battle of Moldon...
    I love how there's those two cowardly thanes who flee the battle who are mentioned by name, though I forget them now, and will go down forever in infamy. When our class studied that piece we wanted to write graffiti all over the school like, "X IS A COWARD!!"
    ...or, "X ond X beođ earge!" (edit: is that right? it's been a while)
    The verb is definitely right, 'earge' . . . I don't know. Hold please.
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    Just got my books containing the set texts and gloss:
    'earg': adj. wretched, vile, useless, cowardly. neut. nom. sing. earh; masc. acc. sing. eargne.
    So the adjective is right and the gender is the present indicative masc. pl. of 'earg', so it's all good.
    Although literally it would be "X and Y are cowardly" rather then 'X and Y is a coward'.

    Hey. I just translated a sentence from MnE to OE and back and accounted for inflections. At first I thought the adjective was inflected wrongly, so I double checked, and it was inflected strongly so the pres. ind. pl. is indeed '-e'!
    I bow to Kneen's still impressive recollection of OE.

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    Can I recommend some reading, Curly? The Anglo-Saxon translation of Genesis attributed to Caedmon is really cool, the devil's character is made an anti-hero a lot like Lucifer in Paradise Lost.
    Just checked the texts from my two main set texts, and it doesn't have a copy of that in it. Can you recommend a book with it in? Or a site? It sounds fascinating.

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    Old English/Anglo-Saxon
    To be: bēon
    iċ eom (I am) OR iċ bēo
    þū eart (you are) OR þū bist
    hē is (he is) OR hēo bið
    hīe sind, sindon (they are) OR wē bēoð
    You can recognise German and English there can't you?

    French:
    To be: être
    Je suis (I am)
    Tu es (You are (informal))
    Il/elle/on est (he/she/it/one is)
    Nous sommes (we are)
    Vous êtes (You are (formal))
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyKitGirl View Post
    Old English/Anglo-Saxon
    To be: bēon
    iċ eom (I am) OR iċ bēo
    þū eart (you are) OR þū bist
    hē is (he is) OR hēo bið
    hīe sind, sindon (they are) OR wē bēoð
    You can recognise German and English there can't you?
    Indeed I can! Also, interesting that while the English-y version doesn't make a lot of sense with the infinitive, the German-y version does.

    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyKitGirl View Post
    French:
    To be: être
    Je suis (I am)
    Tu es (You are (informal))
    Il/elle/on est (he/she/it/one is)
    Nous sommes (we are)
    Vous êtes (You are (formal))
    Ils/ells sont (they are)
    Similarities between French and Spanish entertain me. il/elle and él/ella; nous and nosotros; tu and tú. It's not surprising at all given the romance language deal, but it's nevertheless somehow amusing.


    Edit: But the big question? Does French have two versions of the verb "to be" the way Spanish does (ser and estar)?
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    As far as I know, the only French verb for to be is être.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Indeed I can! Also, interesting that while the English-y version doesn't make a lot of sense with the infinitive, the German-y version does.
    Ah well, push it through MdE through EME to MnE you get and broad assumptions here:

    iċ eom (iċ by the way is pronounced ich) -> I am
    þū eart (þū by the way being pronounced 'thoo') ->tu art -> thy/you art -> you are
    Need I even bother with the next one? No.
    I don't know about the next one. But the 'wē' of the second form is obvious.

    Interestingly, 'you' comes from the formal French 'vous' which was only used to address those of higher status, customers or strangers. Therefore the English language has true equality by addressing everyone as 'you' rather than differentiating between classes/situations/people we don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Similarities between French and Spanish entertain me. il/elle and él/ella; nous and nosotros; tu and tú. It's not surprising at all given the romance language deal, but it's nevertheless somehow amusing.


    Edit: But the big question? Does French have two versions of the verb "to be" the way Spanish does (ser and estar)?
    And quite useful too! On occasion. French has one 'to be'. OE has two forms of bēon, hence the OR options and also wesan which also means to be.
    Apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CurlyKitGirl View Post
    And quite useful too! On occasion. French has one 'to be'. OE has two forms of bēon, hence the OR options and also wesan which also means to be.
    Apparently.
    Interesting. I'm sure there's some overarching rule for "ser" v. "estar" that I don't know and some other playgrounder does. But you use ser for things like identity (soy baja = I'm short), origins (soy de Inglaterra = I'm from England), that sort of thing. Estar is for feelings (estoy triste = I'm sad) and current location (estoy en casa = I'm at home) and generally temporary things. Though, naturally, "temporary" doesn't ALWAYS apply, because hard-and-fast rules never seem to work in language.

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    Ik ben.
    Jij bent.
    Hij/zij/het is.
    Jullie zijn.
    zij zijn.

    Ik was.
    Jij was.
    Hij/zij/het was.
    Jullie waren.
    Zij waren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Interesting. I'm sure there's some overarching rule for "ser" v. "estar" that I don't know and some other playgrounder does. But you use ser for things like identity (soy baja = I'm short), origins (soy de Inglaterra = I'm from England), that sort of thing. Estar is for feelings (estoy triste = I'm sad) and current location (estoy en casa = I'm at home) and generally temporary things. Though, naturally, "temporary" doesn't ALWAYS apply, because hard-and-fast rules never seem to work in language.
    One reason why the averae language student (of any language) has often introduced their head to the nearest, non-fragile flat surface available.
    My format was this:
    K: Head, meet Desk.
    D and H together: Hi. *THUMP*

    Occasionally, Head was courteously introduced to The Wall, they got on about as well as Head and Desk.

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    Nah, that would be "Lebensmittelvergiftung", which I really do hope I've spelt correctly, especially given my next point...
    Myself I have a fondness for 'Zerschniferschnück'. May technically be a nonsense word, but it's a very good one.
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    *looks around*
    *replaces second D in DeeDee with a R, making it DeeRee*
    Yea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Why is "to be" the most infernally complex verb in the world?

    In English we've got

    to be -> I am, you are, he/she is, we are, they are
    Danish:

    Jeg er
    Du er
    Han/hun/den/det er
    Vi er
    De er

    It is not so hard...

    Also: I stod behind a completely bald woman in a queue today. I was a bit taller than her so I got a good look at her head. It was not pretty. There was wierd bumps and marks all over the place. If I was her, I would wear a hat. I sure hope her hair grows out again some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Interesting. I'm sure there's some overarching rule for "ser" v. "estar" that I don't know and some other playgrounder does. But you use ser for things like identity (soy baja = I'm short), origins (soy de Inglaterra = I'm from England), that sort of thing. Estar is for feelings (estoy triste = I'm sad) and current location (estoy en casa = I'm at home) and generally temporary things. Though, naturally, "temporary" doesn't ALWAYS apply, because hard-and-fast rules never seem to work in language.
    Funny thing about your own native language is that you may know how to perfectly write and speak said language but not know how or why certain words work.
    Like for example, I probably wouldn't be able to explain to someone the difference between ser and estar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Why is "to be" the most infernally complex verb in the world?

    In English we've got

    to be -> I am, you are, he/she is, we are, they are

    Spanish is

    ser -> soy, eres, es, somos, (sois), son


    I don't know any other languages. But still . . . WTF, people? Is German similarly bizarre and unrelated to the infinitive?
    Sum, es, est! Sumus, estis, sunt!

    Yeah, I think "to be" is irregular in just about every language ever. Also a fun fact! The word for mother starts with an m in most languages!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Why is "to be" the most infernally complex verb in the world?

    In English we've got

    to be -> I am, you are, he/she is, we are, they are

    Spanish is

    ser -> soy, eres, es, somos, (sois), son


    I don't know any other languages. But still . . . WTF, people? Is German similarly bizarre and unrelated to the infinitive?
    With german... its crazy as well
    Sein is to be.
    Ich bin - I am
    Du bist - You (informal you) are
    Er/ sie/ es ist - he/she/it is
    Wir sind - We are
    Ihr seid - You (plural) are.
    sie sind - They are
    Sie sind - You (very formal You, the way you refer to a superior or to someone you have respect for.)

    So yes. Its crazy
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    Funny thing about your own native language is that you may know how to perfectly write and speak said language but not know how or why certain words work. . .
    . . .thus making [native language] class an unending horror for those of us who paid attention the first year those concepts of grammar were discussed. Half or more of first-year Latin was also wasted on making students pay attention to the complex structures which were accessible yet unused in English. For the icing upon this cake of woe, my teachers' willingness to listen to my stumbling Swedish was in inverse proportion to their grasp of grammar. ("Cake of woe"? Did someone replace my tealights with Vetinari's candle ends?) As for the paper topic, broadly 'nay', but for you I'll say 'yea' for you do have the gift both for rambling on the topic enough to satisfy a word count, yet also have the (rarer) gift of those circumlocutory spirals of construction make sense to the reader.

    As for Mauve Shirt's professor, I sympathize; a teacher can break down under stress just as a student can, but the student doesn't generally sink the entire year's deadline-dependent academic hopes with her. Independent learning only goes so far when your works must be stamped with authority by such-and-such a date. In our situation the rest of the department was willing to look sideways and perhaps allow the students a bit more input on their letters of recommendation than was wise, in return for lessening the additional workload upon them, but that was high school where any sin will be obliterated in the next tier of schooling, and we were all destined for a higher tier of schooling. In short, if she's your faculty contact, change your faculty contact if you want to graduate on time!

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