OOTS #1163 - The Discussion Thread

[drazen]

Where did Hilgya go from #1162? She was right next to Sigdi, between Sigdi and the elementals, but is nowhere to be seen in this strip, despite Hoskin asking what the plan is right after charging in.

[hroþila]

Where did Hilgya go from #1162? She was right next to Sigdi, between Sigdi and the elementals, but is nowhere to be seen in this strip, despite Hoskin asking what the plan is right after charging in.

She likely stepped aside to make room for all the newcomers who would naturally bunch up around Sigdi. There's quite a bit of movement between the end of #1162 and the start of #1163, judging by the relative positions of Durkon's family members.

[KorvinStarmast]

I m joining Team Frost Dwarf!

Seems more likely than the air elemental thing, since he needed a boost to get airborn and I'd expect an air based outsider/blend to have some kind of flying or temporary flying ability.

The Spiritual Weapon of a Lawful cleric is a longsword: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/spiritualWeapon.htm

As to why the blue text and glowing eyes - something Air related - perhaps an Elemental-centric prestige class?

My problem with that is he needed help getting into the air, from the twins.

Well, yeah. What I was referring to is that he's apparently got family from another game system in another medium, though. In a setting where all the dwarves have disappeared, no less!

So that's where they went ...

Though it would be a nice callback to the giant toad if Durkon helps Roy cut his way out of the worm's belly/maw - showing how he's learned to be more assertive and all that.

That would be cool.
New dwarf Champion/Ice/Whatever is heading back to take on the other elemental, it seems ...

[Jannoire]

Seems more likely than the air elemental thing, since he needed a boost to get airborn and I'd expect an air based outsider/blend to have some kind of flying or temporary flying ability. My problem with that is he needed help getting into the air, from the twins

But after that boost he went pretty far and wide. That doesn't seem to be the normal distant for Dwarf throwing...

[danielxcutter]

Hmm... actually, whatever New Guy is, it's not a Soulborn:

Incarnum Defense (Su): Your incarnum-fused soul dramatically affects your body and mind. At 2nd level, this manifests as a visible change in your appearance, as well as a particular immunity. The appearance and effects of this fusion depend on your alignment:

Lawful Good: Your eyes become orbs of solid gold in color, with no visible pupil or iris. You gain immunity to fear.

Chaotic Good: Your irises turn emerald green. You gain immunity to paralysis.

Lawful Evil: Your pupils display an unholy red hue. You gain immunity to exhaustion (effects that would cause exhaustion render you fatigued instead).

Chaotic Evil: Your eyes become solid orbs of shadowy blackness, with no visible pupil or iris. You gain immunity to any penalty, damage, or drain to your Strength.

Blueblade's eyes don't fit any of these. Unless any Soulborn soulmelds do that?

[Peelee]

But after that boost he went pretty far and wide. That doesn't seem to be the normal distant for Dwarf throwing...

What's the normal distance for dwarf throwing?

[Fyraltari]

Hmm... actually, whatever New Guy is, it's not a Soulborn:



Blueblade's eyes don't fit any of these. Unless any Soulborn soulmelds do that?

So what you are saying is :




The Monster in the Dark is a LG Soulborn?

[Jannoire]

What's the normal distance for dwarf throwing?

According to the only source I have (LOTR), it's nowhere near the estimated height of those Elementals...

[Peelee]

According to the only source I have (LOTR), it's nowhere near the estimated height of those Elementals...

According to that source, wizards should be significantly less powerful. Among many, many other things.

[Fyraltari]

What's the normal distance for dwarf throwing?

Well, the record was established in 1999 for a throw of 15,5m. Although that was purely horizontal distance.

[Peelee]

Well, the record was established in 1999 for a throw of 15,5m. Although that was purely horizontal distance.

1999?!? That's 800 years in the future!

[Fyraltari]

1999?!? That's 800 years in the future!

Sure, 20 years ago.

[Skull the Troll]

I think you mean "coup de grace" here? A coup d'etat is the overthrowing of an established government. Like what Redcloak did to Azure City.

Technically Redcloak was just a bog standard invasion. A coup de tat is usually the military arm of an established government taking over the whole government.

[AutomatedTeller]

How did Durkon narrow it down to whoever was dating Thad? I'd think the number of people it could be would be many more than 1, no?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

How did Durkon narrow it down to whoever was dating Thad? I'd think the number of people it could be would be many more than 1, no?

Not necessarily. And since Durkon knew who he was talking about, clearly there is only one Durkon's cousin's brother in law's niece in the dating scene at current time.

Grey Wolf

[Jannoire]

According to that source, wizards should be significantly less powerful. Among many, many other things.

There are in story reasons for Gandalf to pull his punches. And in the case of Saruman.. He weilds a different kind of power.

[Fyraltari]

Not necessarily. And since Durkon knew who he was talking about, clearly there is only one Durkon's cousin's brother in law's niece in the dating scene at current time.

Grey Wolf

Narrowing it further ‘‘in the dating scene and interested in men’’.

There are in story reasons for Gandalf to pull his punches. And in the case of Saruman.. He weilds a different kind of power.

Gandalf cannot make without fuel and cannot burn snow: Gandalf cannot cast fireball. He also cannot teleport.

[Peelee]

There are in story reasons for Gandalf to pull his punches. And in the case of Saruman.. He weilds a different kind of power.

Fly is a just third level spell, is all I'm saying.

Actually, to be fair, that's not all I'm saying; Middle-earth is a poor baseline to use for D&D powers, because most somewhat low level D&D character will outclass similar Middle-earth counterparts. Gandalf is just the easiest example.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Narrowing it further ‘‘in the dating scene and interested in men’’.

Or, for all we know, "interested only in half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue".

Grey Wolf

[Fyraltari]

Fly is a just third level spell, is all I'm saying.

Actually, to be fair, that's not all I'm saying; Middle-earth is a poor baseline to use for D&D powers, because most somewhat low level D&D character will outclass similar Middle-earth counterparts. Gandalf is just the easiest example.

Too many people do not realize that Middle Earth is a Low-Fantasy setting (or at least a low-magic one). At least in the Third Age. Hùrin is about on par with D&D Fighters and Felagund is what D&D Bards want to be when they grow up.

[Dion]

Not necessarily. And since Durkon knew who he was talking about, clearly there is only one Durkon's cousin's brother in law's niece in the dating scene at current time.

Grey Wolf

Technically, all we know is that all of Durkon’s cousin’s brother in law’s nieces were dating Thad.

It makes sense. Thad’s a pretty cool guy. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Thad at 31 Flavors last night.

[Vulsutyr]

In the panel when the new guy lands, the bottom of his armor flexs up. I don’t remember that from anyone else, and the armor looks like how full plate is drawn. Does that mean it is an exotic material or just black leather?

[NerdyKris]

Those are faulds. They are made to go up and down so they don't restrict your leg movement.

[Personification]

Too many people do not realize that Middle Earth is a Low-Fantasy setting (or at least a low-magic one). At least in the Third Age. Hùrin is about on par with D&D Fighters and Felagund is what D&D Bards want to be when they grow up.

Plus, both lore-wise and ability-wise, Gandalf is really closer to a flightless Deva (at least in 5e).

[KorvinStarmast]

Plus, both lore-wise and ability-wise, Gandalf is really closer to a flightless Deva (at least in 5e).

11th or 12th level lore bard.

[MartianInvader]

Or, for all we know, "interested only in half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue".

Grey Wolf

In that case, we could assume Thad is also a half-outsider that speaks in blue-on-blue.

[Fyraltari]

Or, for all we know, "interested only in half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue".

Grey Wolf

Err no. One niece being interested only in half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue, does not preclude another niece also being interested in half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue.

Though I suppose that it is possible that all the nieces except one have expressed a strong dislike of half-outsiders that speak blue-on-blue.

[Clistenes]

Too many people do not realize that Middle Earth is a Low-Fantasy setting (or at least a low-magic one). At least in the Third Age. Hùrin is about on par with D&D Fighters and Felagund is what D&D Bards want to be when they grow up.

It took two advanced Balrogs (one of which was the King of Balrogs) to defeat and capture Hùrin...

Finrod went toe to toe against Sauron, and he would have won the contest were not for the curse of Mandos...

[Fyraltari]

It took two advanced Balrogs (one of which was the King of Balrogs) to defeat and capture Hùrin...

No it didn't. Hùrin never fought a Balrog, he was overrun by Orcs and Trolls and only fell when the weight of the cut hands of his foes that were still grasping him became too heavy.

Finrod went toe to toe against Sauron, and he would have won the contest were not for the curse of Mandos...

Source on the Doom of the North having anything to do with it? It's about infighting and paranoia, not magic failing them.

[hobit]

I'm going to go with what someone said above. He's a champion.

It won't let me post the link but forums/showthread.php?172910-Articles-Previously-Appearing-on-GiantITP-com&p=9623431#post9623431 on this website.