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2012-08-11, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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thats another thing! the songs in the hobbit are a lot sillier
how will they handle those?
i recently reread the hobbit (like, 2 weeks ago) and reading the attercrop song that bilbo sings when he chases the spider made me cringe
how are they going to communicate things like that?
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"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2012-08-11, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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suddenly the klingon thing just clicked...
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"Today is a GOOD day... to kill a dragon!"
On a more serious note, I think jackson will handle the lightheartedness just fine. He had gimli cracking jokes at helms deep and such, there is nothing to say that his view of dwarves must be stern and unbending. They can talk about the mission they have obsessed over, then switch off and joke around about how much bilbo is panicking over his crockery.Last edited by Traab; 2012-08-11 at 07:22 PM.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2012-08-11, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-11, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, apparently they've been shooting the movies at a higher framerate than... all other movies that've come out ever. Apparently a lot of people don't like it, saying that it feels like a soap opera set (AKA, completely unrealistic.)
So apparently now the 48 FPS version is just going to be a limited release.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1452391.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1755388.html
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2012-08-11, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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The problem with home video's surpassing cinema with framerates... And perhaps the bigger problem of me only knowing this from xkcd.
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2012-08-11, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am pretty sure I remember Tolkien describing the dwarves having bears so long the had to tuck them into their belts.
Originally post by Dr.Epic
Man, is anybody else excited for all the memes these films will generate? I mean, look at the first trilogy. We got, amongst many, how one does not simply walk into Mordor. I can't wait for all the new memes. I wonder if they're be better or worse than the old ones?
...and my axe!
Bilbo "I keep telling you I am not a thief."
Dwarves "Ok thief. Here's what we need you to do."
I am paraphrasing of course I don’t remember the exact lines.
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2012-08-11, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am indeed surprised that he's making it in 3 installments. I'm only upset over the fact that I'll have to wait longer to see them all!
I have just recently read all 3 Lord of the Rings books, and too thought it a little weird that Tom Bombadil was left out.
But then again, he's kind of a weird character that shows up out of nowhere, so it may not have been best for the movie.Originally Posted by Hans
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Yeah. The took their harps and cellos adventuring with them. That's a healthy set of dwarven priorities.
Addendum: at least some dwarves had bows, though.Last edited by Eldan; 2012-08-12 at 06:25 AM.
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2012-08-12, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think it was more, they didnt believe he really was a thief until bilbo got the ring and managed to sneak up on the dwarves while invisible. "More a grocer than a burglar" They tried using him as a scout once, and it got them nearly eaten by trolls, he was useless on escaping the goblins and had to be freaking carried on doris back as they ran iirc, then again later on dori had to climb down out of the tree they were hiding in to save bilbo because the little midget couldnt grab the low hanging branches. (Seriously? They tried to hide in a TREE?!) Honestly, until the spiders of mirkwood, bilbo was thoroughly useless to the dwarves and it was only gandalfs insistence that kept them from kicking him to the curb weeks earlier.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2012-08-12, 12:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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It was either climb the trees or get eaten by wargs. Not much of a choice. That scene is also solid evidence that Gandalf was not all-powerful. Gandalf thought the goblins and wargs would kill them all until they were rescued by the eagles.
The funny thing about the trolls is Bilbo would have done his job if he didn't feel that the dwarves expected way too much of him. He thought that, at the very least, he should pick their pockets--which didn't end well. If he had just returned to the dwarves, then everything would have been fine--although we'd have missed a funny scene.
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2012-08-12, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, in that scene, I'd guess Gandalf just wasn't allowed to interfere with much magic. They were not fighting supernatural evil, after all.
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Yeah but, you cant fight in a tree, and they arent going to just go away because you climbed. Goblins are bigger than dwarves, so its not like they couldnt climb after them, or, you know, BURN THE TREES. A far better option (without future knowledge) would have been to find the most defensible spot they could and fight. Climb a tree? They might as well have gone for duck and cover as a means of protecting themselves. Climbing trees did nothing but mean they didnt have to fight the wargs, which sounds handy, but there were way more than enough goblins to slaughter them anyways, so its like if they were the spartans, "Well, we stopped half of the persian army from attacking us. of course, that still leaves 500,000 troops that still can."
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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Well no, he's a wizard. He's a glass cannon. If you have weight of numbers, you can just swarm him and interrupt his spellcasting every turn.
Theoretically he does have 13 tanks around him (and one level 1 rogue), but they were all stuck up in trees right?
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Apparently that's what they played:
Thorin: Golden Harp
Kili and Fili: little fiddles
Dori, Nori and Ori: flutes
Bombur: drum
Bifur and Bofur: clarinets
Dwalin and Balin: Viols"Like the old proverb says, if one sees something not right, one must draw out his sword to intervene"
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2012-08-13, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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when i was little i wondered if bombur just beat his belly :P
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Until the Battle of Five Armies, the party was armed only with scavenged gear. Most of the dwarves took daggers (and Thorin the great sword Orcrist) from the troll lair, and Beorn provided bows (the arrows of which the dwarves promptly wasted.) In the Battle of Five Armies, the dwarf army from the Iron Hills used mattocks, while Thorin & Company wielded axes from the hoard.
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I thought they only scavenged the daggers and such because it was rightful pillage, and thorin and gandalf kept their weapons because they were really really good ones. It seems kind of stupid to me if they had actually gone off on their quest unarmed.
"Hey guys, are we ready to go kill the dragon that wiped out 99% of our clan and retake our home?"
"Yup, all set. Got my harp and everything."
"Got your food and water? A change of clothes?"
"Of course, dont be silly. Why would I forget important stuff like that?"
"Well what about swords and axes and such? You remember to pack those?"
"What the hell would we need with weapons? We have harps and such! Its just a perilous journey of several months through goblin infested mountains, monster infested woods, and then battling a dragon that killed our entire clan."
"Yeah, sorry, dont know what I was thinking. We need to save pack space for our sheet music after all.""Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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Those are the only weapons that they are ever stated to have, and a point is made that the troll plunder was confiscated from them. At this point in the Third Age, the roads were mostly safe west of Rivendell, and taking on the dragon directly was beyond them no matter how well armed. Not being armed is not particularly absurd.
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