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I'd actually be interested in something slightly of my own creation if that's alright with you. There was something very simaler (possibly even more powerful) on D&D wiki, but I can't find it. He was stronger, but more scaled. This doesn't really scale. (Then again the fighter never did.. Feats=bleh lol)
I'd be a fighter, but not just any fighter. A "poison knight". I'd be willing to burn fighter feats to justify his mechanics.
1: Once per round as a free action, he can cast a poison. There's some in book of vile darkness I could tryout. But most are here.
To balance it, he'd have to roll a will save (or charisma if you prefer) DC equal to the craft DC to succesfuly create the poison. The poison melds to an object of his choice and "releases" upon contact. (So say he melds insanity mist to his greatsword. If it strikes, blam. They notice this big cloud of smoke in their face..) Instead of "the will to power" I call it "the will to poison" lawlz
Roleplay wise this might need to be done only occassional cause too many diseases might make people suspicious... So I'd say that's worth two of his fighter bonus feats.
RP wise I would totally justify him as an amatuer warrior who sold his soul.
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A wizard being called a warlock is like having a PhD and being told you only managed to graduate because you gave the dean a quickie in the alley behind the movie theater.
He was a young man with a terrible illness, and was afraid to die, and a demon saw his fear and gave him eternal life. He's corpse is rotten and wracked with scaley dry skin and scars. When you cut into him, he bleeds a putried black tar along with maggots and other larva from his living corpse. He's an abomonation, but he couldn't be happier. He's alive, and he's been alive for decades and hasn't aged one bit. (Granted when you look like that, it's hard to tell..) After that many years, you learn a trick or two. Hense he's a level 6 fighter. (ECL 2 for ghoul) His soul contract didn't come without some stimulation however. Sure he's virtualy immortal, and powerful. But his demon owner demanded something in return. Souls can't be literaly owned, they have to have terms of agreement. His terms are that he must use his powers to spread fear, chaos, and depravity. Demons feed off the suffering and confusion of others. Devils revel in creating heart wrenching depression that makes you think there is no God. Demons revel in making you scream for God's mercy as they bringdown the pain...
This is going to be an attempt to play chaotic evil that actually thinks himself chaotic good to chaotic neutral. He's chaotic evil "for the greater good". What is the greater good? To create unceartainty in the lives of mortals. It is only when mortals are in their worst enviorments are they "good". As Neitzsche said "fear is the mother of morality". By creating all this bloodshed and anarchy, he's bringing people together. Brother stops hating brother when their life is at stake. He wants to force people to love and respect eachother by being the outside force that brings them together. If unable too, they should be forced to die painful, gorey deaths.
It's completely possible his personality has been twisted and perverted by the soulpact. Because going from a young man too cowardly to go peacefully, to some kind of obsessive paladin of death. But it's not death itself he's after. But the side effect the death. The strengthening of people's character through loss. He's made a 180degree personality turn.
In his mortal life he was frail and quickly afraid. But now he's rather narcissistic and likes to gloat and taunt. You would never believe this was the same guy. Then again power can change people. A few relatives and friends might still be alive to vaguely recognize his disfigured appearance. But it would be hard to believe this was the same guy.
His demon contractor is a Glabrezu. He has no idea his "master" is really only a mid-tier demon. He's powerful, but he could be easily intimidated by some of the other creatures lurking the hell layers... But he is greatly devoted to his demon master for changing his life. And as quickly as he gets offended by even insuating he's less then perfect, he gets even more offended when others insult his master. If he were to see another demon insult him he'd be like "you don't have to putup with that master! Let's ambush them together!"
He has almost a romantic devotion to his demon master. Luckiely for us demons are gender neutral. Otherwise that might get ackward...
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I bet if we put our heads together we could come up with something lol. Something like a favored soul but with wings much earlier level and bonus to swim checks. XD
It's very good, NAN. How big were you thinking this country should be? Will your lone Ninja be missed? Was (s)he sent, or is (s)he running? Start churning up ideas, get them to me however you want, and if I think something needs to be changed I will tell you
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So, if you plan to build much of the world as you go along, may we develop some bits and pieces of it for our background?
That is precisely why the world is still mostly uncreated - so you have fairly free reign to invent whatever you need for back story.
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What do you think about the idea of a character with multiple personalities each of which differs slightly...
Have you seen the Binder? It's in the Tome of Magic. Check it out, and if it's not what you're after we can work on getting what you want.
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Interested and wondering if you've seen the Evolutionist? I'm thinking of a guy who has lived in the bottom of society all his life, struggling, adapting to survive. Might even go VoP with a different fluff just to get rid of all the wealth... Thoughts?
It seems overly complicated for a concept that is better handled by a core class I'll allow it, if it's what you're really after. I'll also allow a Vow of Poverty, if you're willing to roleplay it.
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I'd be a fighter, but not just any fighter. A "poison knight". I'd be willing to burn fighter feats to justify his mechanics.
I'd be more open to this if you went Paladin of Slaughter and were willing to trade out your Mount for poisons.
Keep in mind that this probably wont be a primarily evil campaign. We might have to get you a good bluff score if you're going to fit in with a party.
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When do you want completed characters by and what kind of time zone are you operating in?
I'm Eastern US (GMT -5), and I'll probably wait until at least Wednesday next week.
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Ooh, can I try a Factotum? Always wanted to…must think of background…
If you're talking about a class, I've never heard of it If you're just talking about someone who is capable of doing a little of everything then by all means go for it
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Posting interest in playing something unusual, like a Binder, Warlock, or Incarnate. Probably going to settle on Binder in the end, because Pact Magic is too cool. (for school!)
If you're talking about a class, I've never heard of it If you're just talking about someone who is capable of doing a little of everything then by all means go for it
I believe he is talking about the class, it's from dungeonscape as far as I remember and it is in fact a jack of all trades...
can't find a link to it right now, but I have found it before...It's essentially a skill monkey with a few neat little tricks thrown in...
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yea... I can't seem to find the factotum excerpt either.... but inside the web enhancement excerpt is a feat very useful for factotums called the font of inspiration. As far as I know from playing a factotum some time ago, they are not overpowered, but I've only played some low levels with it unfortunately... I think by raw their inspiration points are on a per day basis?
edit: Cockroach: Holy mackeral on a flaming grill doused in lighterfluid, 27 AC at level 8???
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I'd gladly make any changes to the class for anything you deem overpowered, but I think the class is fairly balanced. Or if you don't find the class fluff worthy enough I may think of something else to play.
Thinking a Fighter 4/Rune Knight 4 Lawful Neutral, haven't quite decided the race yet, nothing more than a LA+1.
Any more details about the main city or an idea of the storyline we are going to be following?
You can play a Rune Knight. It looks like a decent, if expensive, class.
As for the story - I have a handful of ideas, but nothing set in stone for the same reason that I haven't done any far-reaching world building. I'm going to be crafting the plot around the Party, which will be made of the best four or five submissions I get.
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Name: Kalinda “Kali” Gray Age: 20 Sex: Female Height/Weight: 5'5”, 133 lbs Hair/eye color: Short, dark blond hair; blue eyes Appearance: Practical dresser, function over form; finds some way to dress up an outfit (flower-shaped or brightly colored patches, usually); wears a silver holy symbol of Pelor
Birthplace: Hell's Port District, [starting city], [starting nation] Occupation: Thief (for good!) Education: Medium Home Life: (See notes) Religion: Pelor Race: Human Community Status: Evangelist, one-woman anti-corruption/evil force Hobbies: Spreading the word of Pelor, practicing skills, helping at the church
Morals: Lawful Good (is lawful great!) Ambition: Help fight evil, protect the innocent, spread the word of Pelor Disappointments: Mother's departure, emotional distance from brothers Achievements: Rescuing a sacrifice victim from a cult, exposing corruption of a local judge Temperament: Cheerful, optimistic, bright Attitude towards life: Hopeful Attitude towards people: Friendly, extroverted, sees the best in everyone, gives everyone a second chance, trusting Abilities: Skilled thief, very dexterous, very smart Qualities: Honest, kind, friendly, dedicated to ideals of good Flaws: Naïve, easily hurt, gullible (assumes everyone is good until proven otherwise)
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“We all ended up doin' what Daddy taught us, my brothers and me. Kaleb always fought back when Daddy'd start hitting us, so now he just fights everybody. Kody'd patch us up when it was all over, and now he's learning to be a proper healer. And me? I'd run and hide when Daddy started throwing punches. Got real good at climbing over fences and up walls to get away from him. He always went after me the hardest. Think he was angry I was a girl and not another boy. But he's dead now, so it don't really matter.”
Kalinda was the youngest child born to Evalee and Lenard Gray, residents of a squalid neighborhood that once had a proper name, but is now known to everyone as Hell's Port. Poverty and crime dominate the district; criminal gangs and evil cults have dug their claws in, and the local authorities don't care enough to dislodge them. Her mother, Evalee, was a beautiful, intelligent woman, who regretted marrying her husband and frequently advised her daughter to never settle for a “lazy drunkard who wouldn't recognize a gold piece if it hit him in the face.” In addition to Kalinda, there were two boys: Kaleb and Kody, four and three years older than their little sister. Evalee cared for all three of her children, homeschooling them and taking in whatever work she could in order to feed and clothe them. But when Kalinda was 10, her mother met a guardsman traveling with a merchant caravan, fell in love, and abandoned her family. She left a long letter to Kalinda, explaining why she'd left, and promising to return. She never did.
After his wife's departure, Lenard began demanding that his children support his drinking (as well as pay for food, rent, and clothing). After two years of beatings, stealing, and misery, Kalinda ran away from home. She fled Hell's Port and found her way to the local temple of Pelor. The priests there intended to allow the young girl to stay for a week, two at most, before sending her on her way; Kali's charm, wit, and desire to do something good with her life convinced them to allow her to stay. For a time, she considered becoming a cleric, but her talents laid elsewhere. She honed her skills as a thief, but now instead of stealing from merchants for her father, she stole from evil churches for Pelor.
Today, Kalinda lives at the temple to Pelor, operating as a one-woman force for good and justice. She helps the guards hunt down criminals, rescues prisoners meant for sacrifice, liberates stolen gold and returns it to its rightful owners (or, if no owners can be found, donates it to her church and other charities in the city). Despite her childhood, she's upbeat and cheerful, considering herself blessed by the Sun God. After her father's death two years ago, her brothers made contact with her again; they stay in touch, but aren't very close. She has many friends in the church and throughout the city. Followers of good and justice count her as an ally, while criminals and worshipers of evil see her as anything from a nuisance to a dire threat.
I made up some stuff about the city-- I tried to keep it as generic as possible so it'll fit in with whatever ideas you've got. Let me know if I need to make any alterations to the backstory!
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"Strahd turns into mist." - DM
"And I turn into a hepa filter." - Lumieras
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"We should replace the armory, with a charmry, and save the world with a hug." - Roofus
Gah! Binders, why must you be so versatile? I can't decide on a role (Though in the presence of this Incarnate, tank seems rather pointless. Perhaps damage-dealer...)
Rhiannon - Kali looks good. But I want you to realize early on that anything you don't specifically stipulate (like what happened to her mother, or how her father died) you leave in my hands for me to play with
It's not as big a deal for Kethend, since whatever family he had probably thinks he is dead and wouldn't recognize him anyways. But if you are accepted than Azenath becomes my NPC, and I reserve the right to do with her as I will.
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Rhiannon - Kali looks good. But I want you to realize early on that anything you don't specifically stipulate (like what happened to her mother, or how her father died) you leave in my hands for me to play with
It's not as big a deal for Kethend, since whatever family he had probably thinks he is dead and wouldn't recognize him anyways. But if you are accepted than Azenath becomes my NPC, and I reserve the right to do with her as I will.
Hmm. I have an idea of how her father died, so I'll specify that (along with more details on what her brothers are up to), but I'll gladly leave her mother a mystery. :-D
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"Experience is a good thing. You should hit it." - Lathandar to his Paladin, in response to her prayers for advice on what to do about a Holy Liberator
"Strahd turns into mist." - DM
"And I turn into a hepa filter." - Lumieras
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"We should replace the armory, with a charmry, and save the world with a hug." - Roofus
Well we've got somebody else considering Binder now but yes, it is a class I'm a fan of. Could be a good way to play around with a shifting personality. I would like to play one anyway though. For one thing, it makes for some very entertaining group dynamics, and second, I'd like to get some practice with DID in an adventure setting for this novel I'm considering.
I need to talk to my friend who has DID some more about it...
I just found this thread and I'm interested in this campaign if your still taking players. For a character idea I was thinking of doing a gnome expert that tinkers with mechanical stuff and make new useful technology. If not that I might have some extra guys I could use. However I've always wanted to try the gnome thing but I can't find another campaign that it would be useful in and my friends won't let me use one.
And to the DM, don't worry; no Maximized Hellfire Eldritch Glaive to worry about. I just think a Binder who was tempted to the even darker side of Arcana is interesting.
It's not as big a deal for Kethend, since whatever family he had probably thinks he is dead and wouldn't recognize him anyways. But if you are accepted than Azenath becomes my NPC, and I reserve the right to do with her as I will.
No worries there. I don't think we want to know much about his pre-dragonborn past.
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Wow... I've been dying to play a sponteneous casting gish. I know it's far from optimized, but your game don't seem to have a problem with that. I hope you can make room for my character.
cheers.
You want us to avoid power-gaming? Then I've got the perfect idea - Mystic Theurge! It's playable at this level, giving me (just barely) access to 3rd level spells from two areas.
I doubt that its powergaming specifically. She wants us to create outlandish and interesting characters that actually have a personality with less emphasis on "roll playing" and more on Role playing. Most games become boring because the characters the game is made out of become impersonal because all they are are the sum of their rolls rather than how they control their roles with their rolls.
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Well, I finished Malfrex Ryujin. Well, submit it tomorrow or this Friday (busy with classes so one or other).
I hope Wastri, the Hopping Prophet (foumd in Complete Divine) is allowed as a diety since I used him.
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Hey - will you allow the the "Craft Points" variant so we won't have to worry about stopping the adventure in mid-stride for those of us with Item Creation feats/skills?
Character Up. Working on back story. If you like free license on back stories you're going to like mine. Two major roles in my back story you can choose to do anything with.
Your normal run-of-the-mill creepy gnome illusionist extraordinaire! More to come, still need to finish spells and get a sufficient backstory! Yay illusions!
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Ever the eternal optimist, Par KNOWS there is a solution to every problem, and that solution is usually laughter. Quick to humor, even if its at the wrong place or the wrong time. Par's jokes are often augemented by illusions. When his pranks are poorly received, Par will often duck behind larger party members in an effort to avoid direct confrontation, often using ventriloquism or invisibility to cover his tracks.
Par adventured previously with a group known as the Green Gryphons. While investigating some lost Olman ruins, the Green Gryphons encountered a rather LARGE tribe of LARGE trolls. The trolls ambushed the party, tearing them apart before they could even react. Par managed to escape by turning invisible and hiding until the trolls had finished tearing his party into bite sized morsels and devouring them before his eyes. To this day, Par has a very unhealthy fear of trolls. The very thought of them makes him shiver from his toes to the tip of his large gnomish nose.
Since that incident, Par has been living rather comfortably off the proceeds he earned from that adventure, but he can feel the wanderlust simmering down deep in his belly. Since then, Par has been seeking new adventures with new companions to cause mischief and aquire wealth in a hopefully troll free atmosphere.
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It seems overly complicated for a concept that is better handled by a core class I'll allow it, if it's what you're really after. I'll also allow a Vow of Poverty, if you're willing to roleplay it.
Ok, great! As I said, I was thinking of refluffing the VoP a bit. I'm not interested in creating a saint. Instead, he loses everything of value that he owns in various ways. It might be through theft, clumsiness or plain bad luck. Things might even spontaneously combust .
The abilities that he gains from the VoP isn't thanks to him sacrificing stuff to the gods, it's just his skills as an Evolutionist and his adaptive mind that has enabled him to gain skills beyond most of those around him.
EDIT: My god the Exalted feats are boring (and useless)! Why didn't they create a general VoP progression?!
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I'll allow it, if it's what you're really after. I'll also allow a Vow of Poverty, if you're willing to roleplay it.
If you're just talking about someone who is capable of doing a little of everything then by all means go for it 
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