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2012-10-30, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Midget Humans?
So having an argument with some random person on another form, when I asked , Hey can I play a midget, and they start going off like I am some sort of cheater ((Lesser Assimar is often played so not like am super optimizing and not picking tier one class anyways).
Is being a midget human so offensive to suggest as wanting to roleplay?
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2012-10-30, 06:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
I think a small size human with a base movement of 20 ft would seem reasonable if there are no stats written anywhere for this. And no, I do not find midgets offensive in the least.
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2012-10-30, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Last edited by Zdrak; 2012-10-30 at 07:11 PM.
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2012-10-30, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Little person is the preferred nomenclature.
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2012-10-30, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
I'd say, Human, but small and 20 feet, is not that strong. Small cancels itself out more or less, and any advantages gained are equalled out by the slower speed.
Maybe give them -2 Str and +2 Dex or Con?Thanks for Zefir for the custom avatar.
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2012-10-30, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Play a stronheart halfling.
In PF you can take the Young template.Last edited by Darius Kane; 2012-10-30 at 07:07 PM.
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2012-10-30, 07:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
That always struck me as odd to be honest. Since
little person" is also used to refer to children, it seem far worse then just saying "dwarf"(and dwarf also has connections to mythology and in most modern media dwarves are presented as fairly badarse so it seems like a pretty inoffensive term)Meow(Steam page)
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2012-10-30, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
haha yeah very true
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2012-10-30, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
I would say it 'is' better. Not because of + skill points, but + skill points AND the bonus feat. Better than +1 for thrown, +1 for saves, +2 vs. fear, and a couple skill check bonus for most builds.
The reason it isn't strictly better is because of the stat adjustments which may be good for a build and also why you shouldn't give a "midget" +2 dex, -2 str as a human. Humans balance themselves by giving a bonus feat in place of stat adjustments. And they aren't balanced, anyway, even without stat mods.Homebrew PrC: The Performance Artist
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2012-10-30, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Strongheart halflings get a bonus feat a'la humans. This is why they're considered such a powerful race.
So the difference would be that the humans get +1 skill point/level, while the strongheart halfling gets a slew of other bonii, as both of them get the bonus feat.
(I personally disagree with 'bonus feat is better than everything else', but meh - either way, Strongheart halfling gets the bonus feat along with goodies)Beginnings usually happen over trifles... even if it's a coincidence...
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2012-10-30, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
+2 dex -2 str, bonus skill points and a bonus feat seems too good. You'd never play a halfling again. It's just the clear choice for most things rogue-like, and very solid choice for casters.
http://www.arturogil.com/m_word.htm
See the essay that follows the etymology.
I didn't realize it was a big deal until I read a letter that Roger Ebert published in his column, from actor and little person Danny Woodburn. The only link I could find for that is a google cache:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a
The link on the bottom, to the essay, is broken, but it's the same essay found in the first link.
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2012-10-30, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Funny you should say that, I haven't seen a non-strongheart Halfling in years. Strongheart is much better for stealth/casters than a small human.
Feat
Small size
racial skill modifiers (+Move Silently, Climb, jump)
+2 dex, -2 Str
+1 to hit with thrown and sling
+2 saves vs fear
and the Halfling Language which could be chosen as your party's secret language.
At some point I think we just decided to stop bothering to even call them stronghearts.
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2012-10-30, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
no it is an all human campaign , and I was totaly wanting to try this
((ignore the racial needs))
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20061121a
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2012-10-30, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Midget Humans?
Becuase if am half the human, that means am only 1/2 La, meaning I can stack half a level of human paragon
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2012-10-30, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-30, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Right. Lightfoot is the one in PHB, right? Also, how have I played this game for seven years and never been a strongheart halfling? Dex is superior to strength in the vast majority of my builds, so I could have been doing 'this' instead of humans?
It's funny, now that I think about it, I have seen strongheart halflings and heard them discussed but it never clicked to play one. I never gave it any thought that I could be one, and never actually made a comparison to humans in my mind, still favoring humans as the best non LA race...Homebrew PrC: The Performance Artist
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2012-10-31, 12:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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