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2011-07-31, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
It's possible that they'd be unable to produce offspring. I...kind of hope that's the case, while at the same time hoping it's not.
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2011-07-31, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I always assumed they where egg layers like, say, griffens or manticores.
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2011-07-31, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
We're in that first Age of Worms adventure where there's an owlbear mama or something that had her offspring stolen to become zomblebees or something by the local necromancer at Diamond Lake, I believe.
So I believe that standardly they can reproduce, hence why they're non-unique monsters...
Unless they were like, the equivalent of a master's thesis for transmutation specialist wizards...
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2011-07-31, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I'd go for egg-layers making them similar to echidnas and platypi.
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2011-07-31, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
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2011-07-31, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
They birth eggcubs. Obviously.
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2011-07-31, 09:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
Pathfinder SRD specifically says they have young.
No word on the original question. You might say that because it doesn't mention eggs, that's a point for live birth /shrug.
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2011-07-31, 09:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I'd say that would be up to the GM.
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2011-07-31, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
They are mostly bear in appearance, with the exception of the claws and head. I would say they are placental or perhaps marsupial. I can so imagine a owlbear with a 'roo style pouch with a little owlbear poking out, looking fluffy and adorable.
Last edited by Ravens_cry; 2011-07-31 at 09:56 PM.
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2011-07-31, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
In my group we decided that the result would be something like this:
- 25% Male Owlbear via mamalian birth
- 25% of Female Owlbear via mamalian birth
- 12.5% Male Brown Bear via mamalian birth
- 12.5% Female Brown Bear via mamalian birth
- 12.5% Male Owl via aviary birth
- 12.5% Female Owl via aviary birth
I was going to make the appropriate punnet square we made (we have a geneologist in the group) but wasn't sure how to format it.
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2011-07-31, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
Binary fission?
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2011-07-31, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
Well, in comparison, Raptorans (who are sort of Eaglehumans) are egg-layers.
That said, a wizard did it."Okay, so I'm going to quick draw and dual wield these one-pound caltrops as improvised weapons..."
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"Oh, hey, look! Blue Eyes Black Lotus!" "Wait what, do you sacrifice a mana to the... Does it like, summon a... What would that card even do!?" "Oh, it's got a four-energy attack. Completely unviable in actual play, so don't worry about it."
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2011-07-31, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I know they are a canonical example of that trope, but I personally like to think of them as a separate creature altogether that humans call owlbears, because humans tend to create common names based off of superficial appearance and not relation.
Like how there are animals commonly called civet cats that are neither civets nor cats.Last edited by Ravens_cry; 2011-07-31 at 10:32 PM.
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2011-07-31, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I figured that since they were half-owl, half-bear originally created magically rather than genetically, and their reproductive half seems to be on the bear half, they probably mate and have live birth like a bear does. That being said, Mommy Owlbear better be careful of Baby's hooked beak during the delivery...
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2011-07-31, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
During a live birth, a beak would be a dangerous thing; it could easily injure the mother or lead to other complications. I imagine hatching them from an egg avian-style would be safer.
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2011-07-31, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
The Arms and Equipment Guide has prices for mounts and pets and such, and lists a price for a owlbear young (3'000gp, if you were wondering); elsewhere, it lists a price for other creatures' eggs. This suggests owlbear young do not come from eggs.
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2011-07-31, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-07-31, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I'm going with mammal birth, as I don't want to imagine a bear trying to lay an egg.
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2011-08-01, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
Speaking of horselike births, I've been wondering where the the fetus of a centaur is stored prior to birth. Is it in the human half and it sort of blasts through the horse-parts in labor, or is it in the horse half and the human parts are mostly uninvolved in the process?
...Or maybe the human part gets the human half of the baby, and the horse gets the baby's horsey parts, and they both get sqished together as they come out?"Okay, so I'm going to quick draw and dual wield these one-pound caltrops as improvised weapons..."
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"Oh, hey, look! Blue Eyes Black Lotus!" "Wait what, do you sacrifice a mana to the... Does it like, summon a... What would that card even do!?" "Oh, it's got a four-energy attack. Completely unviable in actual play, so don't worry about it."
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2011-08-01, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
Tucked in head could risk hurting the baby, soft beak could misformed too easily.
Also, beak usually means egg tooth. An egg tooth is a sharp pointed tip used by offspring to bust through eggs from the inside.
Alternatively, there are also mammels that lay eggs, like the Platypus or Echidna; so it's not just birds, fish and reptiles that lay eggs.
Another thing to address is feeding habits of young... typically creatures that give live birth feed young with milk. This too could be dangerous for the mother with a hard beak clamping down to try to suck milk (also noting that beaks can't suck well)
So, I'd vote that Owlbears lay eggs, and given their carnivorous nature, parents may also regurgitate food for newborns.
You'd rather imagine a bear giving live birth to something with an owl head?
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2011-08-01, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-01, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I was always taught than when a mommy owlbear and a daddy owlbear love each other very much, they ask the storkbear to bring them a baby...
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2011-08-01, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
I actually used to live on a horse breeding farm, and you'd be surprised how big a foal is at birth. They're born with their legs 3/4 the length that they will be when the horse is fully grown, according to a book I read. There's no way that a centaur fetus could fit in the human body, so it would have to be in the horse body. This brings up some other interesting questions, such as, what does the human part have where an actual human's organs would be? Their lungs would have to be in the horse part to be able to hold enough air for something that size, meaning the throat would heve to guy all th way through its human torso. Maybe they have both human and horse organs? 2 hearts, 2 livers, 4 kidneys, etc. Or maybe the human part holds a large stomach, mostly? I should have taken biology last year...
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2011-08-01, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Owlbears: Egg-layers or Live Birthers?
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2011-08-01, 12:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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