Avatar Battle Royale: Discussion Thread XV, Now Darker and Edgier

[Calamity]

I'd participate in the Future Imperfect plot, but I'm not so sure I agree with shutting people put of the plot. I just don't find that fair or in the spirit of ABR.

[Threeshades]

Originally Posted by Nameless

*eats dolphin meat*

oh God... this is good... you can TAST that this animal was tortured... of God this is goood...

It makes them so tender, doesn't it? Best if they drowned caught in a net of a tuna fisher

[Fawkes]

I really don't like the 'alternate future' concept. That's going to make things on the wiki hella confusing. And we can't have a related plot so close to FF without the two influencing each other.

Regarding over-powered characters, we just have to have firmer guidelines on what people can do in plots.

[Lyinginbedmon]

I'm not going to say I dislike a plot that hasn't started, but given that pretty much every new plot after FFF has withered I'm not going to give it an estimated long run before it stalls. FFF is the only one that's ever had staying power, despite it's flaws.

As previously mentioned I probably won't be participating in the FI plot, but I might stop by every now and then with something. I'm still sticking around for FFF and anything that shakes the coffin of SDSB.

What can I say? I'm autistic, I don't usually do well with changing things.

[BRC]

Originally Posted by Mechafox

I really don't like the 'alternate future' concept. That's going to make things on the wiki hella confusing. And we can't have a related plot so close to FF without the two influencing each other.

Regarding over-powered characters, we just have to have firmer guidelines on what people can do in plots.

Alternate Future works fine, just make a new Wiki section.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Wait a sec, if you close down FFF, must you close down SDSB?!

I still have plans I want to do! Vert Doomy plans!

[Fawkes]

Originally Posted by BRC

No.

People have too many ideas for FFF, and we can keep moving it. Besides, Future Imperfect is a much darker story. I say just have the two plots running simulteneously and let things take their course. If we find ourself focusing entierly on Future Perfect, FFF will die off on it's own.

Those ideas would still be relevant. Most, if not all, of the characters from FFF will still be present. Ideas will have to be adapted to fit with the sovice control, but that's the direction that FFF has been headed for some time now. Future Imperfect is just Fat Fish Fury 2.

Now, there are several options: We can end FFF and transfer future plot hooks into its sequel, or we can start a sequel at the same time, and turn it into a confusing alternate future that will probably crash and burn within a month.

FFF has headed for a sovice rule for a while, so why make a separate plot about what we've been building up to for so long? The sovices deserve to be main ABR BBEGs, not lame spin-off villains.

[Mad Mask]

@Megadoomer: Sorry, but I seem to lack inspiration about Fat Fish Fury, with the new plot and all. I'll try to finish the comic tomorrow.

Now let's concentrate on Future Imperfect. The story begins in the Citadel of Bis Anu, heavily refitted to match the firepower of the UNA. The most important members of the resistance (does anybody have an idea on how we should call it ?) are currently inside.

Since the Citadel is escorted by a small wing of Schizian fighters, I need to know if anyone designed one of these, or if I should create the design.

^If we end Fat Fish Fury, I say we should conclude all subplots so we can start anew. The main ones I see are the invasion of Alphantica, the NSE expedition and the Vendetta arc.

[Fawkes]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

If we end Fat Fish Fury, I say we should conclude all subplots so we can start anew. The main ones I see are the invasion of Alphantica, the NSE expedition and the Vendetta arc.

I agree that the major subplots need to close, or at least adapt for the timeskip. The Alphantica invasion leads directly into FI, so we will need to focus on that. The Vendetta arc is almost over, so that shouldn't be a problem if Threeshades cooperates. I'm drawing a blank at "NSE expedition," though. Remind me what that stands for?

[Nameless]

I think we should just finish FFF, and then make a dessision.

[Almighty Salmon]

Originally Posted by Nameless

I think we should just finish FFF, and then make a dessision.

It's sort of hard to 'just finish'. I mean, there's a lot to get through.

And hi.

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by Mechafox

I agree that the major subplots need to close, or at least adapt for the timeskip. The Alphantica invasion leads directly into FI, so we will need to focus on that. The Vendetta arc is almost over, so that shouldn't be a problem if Threeshades cooperates. I'm drawing a blank at "NSE expedition," though. Remind me what that stands for?

New Sovice Empire expedition. In Lyinginbedmon's last comic, when he talked to his daughter, he said that the New Sovice Empire could send an expeditionary retrieval force on Avbaroy to remove the Sovice. The NSE could be here within an hour.

[memnarch]

Hmmm....

to do list; make new faerie character, write back story for explanation, help conclude FFF parts, make christmas avy.

I think thats it.


FFF closing; bad idea, new people new a place to get their footing in. Like playing in a sandbox before moving to the construction site, you know?

[Green-Shirt Q]

Originally Posted by Almighty Salmon

And hi.

How the heck did you get picked to be the main character of the main plot when you disappear for so long?!

[Nameless]

Originally Posted by Almighty Salmon

It's sort of hard to 'just finish'. I mean, there's a lot to get through.

And hi.

Whatever, finish this plot, then start another.

[T-O-E]

Originally Posted by Mechafox

I really don't like the 'alternate future' concept. That's going to make things on the wiki hella confusing.

Make new articles for each FI character/area/item/other and put [FI] in the title?

[DoomITP]

Originally Posted by Almighty Salmon

It's sort of hard to 'just finish'. I mean, there's a lot to get through.

And hi.

where have you been?

[Mad Mask]

Answer to life, the universe and everything: Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back. It has almost nothing to do with Fat Fish Fury and can exist independently. New people can join it and do stuff without affecting the rest of the planet.

EDIT: What happened to the FFF archive ? It's been a month since the last update.

[Almighty Salmon]

Originally Posted by the_Q

How the heck did you get picked to be the main character of the main plot when you disappear for so long?!

Pish Posh. I haven't been gone for that long.

EDIT: And I wasn't picked, it just happened.

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

where have you been?

Here. Well, i've been watching, but I just lack the motivation to contribute.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Answer to life, the universe and everything: Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back.

YAY! My question has finally been answered! It won't end!

[BRC]

Since Mechafox is forcing the Issue. Let's put a vote on it.


Proposition F, To begin operations to end the plot known as Fat Fish Fury, permenetally, and institue the new plot, known as Future Imperfect, as the primary plot.

I vote, NAY!

[Mad Mask]

I vote Affirmative !

Yes: 4
No: 3

[Green-Shirt Q]

I vote YAY!

[DoomITP]

I vote yes

[Fawkes]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

EDIT: What happened to the FFF archive ? It's been a month since the last update.

I've been obnoxiously busy. Expect a major update in the next couple of days.

Answer to life, the universe and everything: Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back. It has almost nothing to do with Fat Fish Fury and can exist independently. New people can join it and do stuff without affecting the rest of the planet.

Agreed. SDSB is a rather small-scaled plot that hasn't moved very far forward in time. It will continue to take place before the sovice invasion and will not timeskip. It is the sandbox.

I think that the NSE expedition and the Alphantican invasion will lead directly into the events of Future Imperfect. As such, we don't need to show everything that happens, only the beginning and an overview. Ideally, as the heroes work to establish their goals, we will reach a climax that will serve as an explosive finale for FFF. Then we reach a "Empire Strikes Back" moment, as everything appears to be going wrong for the heroes. Sovices take over and begin enslaving the world. Then, a short group of comics establishes, in a cliff-hanger fashion, what the characters are going to be doing in the timeskip. I have specific plans in mind for a handful of cliffhanger comics featuring Nobody, the Void, and the plotgoblins that should preserve their stories for Future Imperfect.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Nay, with caveats

I have no objection to it starting, I don't think we should shut down FFF because of it.

[Mad Mask]

I think we should make a list of expendable people that quit ABR for a long time, so that we can Kill 'Em All. This will create the right atmosphere for Future Imperfect and provide a sense of danger. And I'm sure a lot of people want to see Squark die.

Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon

Nay, with caveats

I have no objection to it starting, I don't think we should shut down FFF because of it.

It's not a shut down. Every film plot has to end and leave place for the sequel.

Call it Fat Fish Fury II: Future Imperfect.

[Fawkes]

Originally Posted by BRC

Since Mechafox is forcing the Issue. Let's put a vote on it.


Proposition F, To begin operations to end the plot known as Fat Fish Fury, permenetally, and institue the new plot, known as Future Imperfect, as the primary plot.

I vote, NAY!

Obviously, I vote yay, but there is a separate solution that's kind of a compromise. We can keep the title Fat Fish Fury, but fold the concepts of Future Imperfect into it, possibly shortening the time skip.

In any case, I think that the story of the Talisman of the Dragon King needs to come to an end before it completely stagnates. The time of the Sovices is at hand. They deserve BBEG status.

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Call it Fat Fish Fury II: Future Imperfect.

Yeah, like that.

[DoomITP]

I agree. We need to give end to fff. It's been a great story but it's gotta end at some point.

[evil_d4_swarm]

I'm not going to vote, because I have not been here long enough to make a good choice.

Although I'd like to join Future Imperfect.

My character will be posted in a bit.