Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XIX: To FAIL, or not to FAIL?

[CrimsonAngel]

Originally Posted by Lemming

LEMMING-ALANCHE!

Spoiler

At first I thought there was a bunch of tiny you's falling on him then I saw they were actual lemmings! That made me laugh so hard!

[VampireRot]

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot. Why do I have to be the punching bag? Is it the easy-to-drawness of my charecter? The fact that his kind of evil is the kind everyone wants to kill? is is because no one likes me? Is it the fact that I find hilarious and/or disturbing ways of killing you?

[CrimsonAngel]

I kill you with my druids only. Druids rule. I think it might be the ease to draw for the others, but SP came along and noones RKing him.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Originally Posted by VampireRot

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot.

You're showing weakness, they're attracted to that like the ravenous blood thirsty animals they all are.

Also

Originally Posted by CrimsonAngel

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Times like this made me wish the abr house of horrors was still around. Then again, perhaps this one is just too easy.

@v - Don't imply it if you can't supply it.

[CrimsonAngel]

Originally Posted by Tiffanie Lirle

Also

Times like this made me wish the abr house of horrors was still around.

But... but my plants would get all dirty.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by VampireRot

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot. Why do I have to be the punching bag? Is it the easy-to-drawness of my charecter? The fact that his kind of evil is the kind everyone wants to kill? is is because no one likes me? Is it the fact that I find hilarious and/or disturbing ways of killing you?

I believe it's the killing of a little girls cute and fluffy pets that did it.

[VampireRot]

Originally Posted by Keveak

I believe it's the killing of a little girls cute and fluffy pets that did it.

No, thats wasn't it. I think it was the killing of little girl's cute and fluffy pets, zombifying the cute, fluffy, and dead pets, and then making the zombie cute and fluffy pets attack the little girl. It was fun (I distinctly remember cackling maniacally).

[Falgorn]

Originally Posted by Lemming

I can't tell. I think Americans speak kinda funny, but thats because I'm used to a canadian accent. There is no "Eh?" and no "buddy". And we don't talk like Alaskans.

@Fal: Thats because clowns are such the opposite of ninjas that to the untrained they look about the same, but are actually opposites just using the same methods. Its also because clowns are so sneaky they snuck to the other end of the ninjaness scale and no one noticed.

EDIT:...Canadia? Where is that? And snow is nice thank-you-very-much. Except when it rains and all the snow freezes and there's ice everywhere.

Makes sense. I'm finally home, so I can make a clown.

[CrimsonAngel]

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR)

[-skimmer-]

Originally Posted by CrimsonAngel

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR)

Well, I am for that idea

[CrimsonAngel]

Originally Posted by -skimmer-

Well, I am for that idea

Good enough for me. *Runs off*

[VampireRot]

Originally Posted by CrimsonAngel

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR)

I also agree to this... MUHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Erm.. Uhh.. LOOK OVER THERE! *runs off*

[Lemming]

Originally Posted by Tiffanie Lirle

Times like this made me wish the abr house of horrors was still around. Then again, perhaps this one is just too easy.

...What have you done?

Originally Posted by CrimsonAngel

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR)

Oh. Thats what you did.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Originally Posted by Lemming

...What have you done?

I didn't think he'd actually make a new hoh thread.

[Nameless]

I believe 24 hours are up meaning we're not using FAIL.
*totely not trying to revive an old argument... No sarcasm intended*

[memnarch]

Hurt/Heal updated.

[Keris]

Very well Nameless, your grasp of time is correct. For once.
It has been over 24 hours since the last vote, and I'll repost the current votes here:

For including FAIL	Against including FAIL
BRC	Lemming
Keveak	CrimsonAngel
The Gremlin	Tired N' Drowzy
chriky	Fayte
The Randomizer	Threeshades
VampireRot	Szilard
Ninja Chocobo	bayar
-skimmer-

memarch is voting for whoever has the least votes.
Lyinginbedmon is voting for whoever has the most votes.
So they cancel out! (Technically they add 1 to both)
-skimmer- will drop out in case of a draw (but I'm not counting that for now, or it just gets complicated.

For: 9
Against: 8

Last vote: Lyinginbedmon at 10:53PM GMT. Voting ends 11PM on March 11th.

[Ninja Chocobo]

Originally Posted by Nameless

I believe 24 hours are up meaning we're not using FAIL.
*totely not trying to revive an old argument... No sarcasm intended*

Well since now the argument's been revived...
What bugs me about the whole thing is the "Not use" people are calling for a complete embargo on the term whereas the "use" people have made compromises. It's a give and take process, people!

Anyway. What I propose is that the name is used in the cartoon, and progresses to being used by small children, and adults possibly when in the presence of small children, or using it ironically, or if they're massive geeks regarding the cartoon.
Thus, the term is used, but rarely and in fairly specific circumstances.

Feel free to ignore this, but I consider this the most logical use.

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Ninja Chocobo

Anyway. What I propose is that the name is used in the cartoon, and progresses to being used by small children, and adults possibly when in the presence of small children, or using it ironically, or if they're massive geeks regarding the cartoon.
Thus, the term is used, but rarely and in fairly specific circumstances.

Feel free to ignore this, but I consider this the most logical use.

It was also the use in which I envisioned it occurring most frequently.

So perhaps you'd like to cast a vote into the "For FAIL" category then? We have another 8 hours left before voting ends again.

[Nameless]

Originally Posted by Keris Rain

Very well Nameless, your grasp of time is correct. For once.
It has been over 24 hours since the last vote, and I'll repost the current votes here:


For: 8 (7+memnarch)
Against: 8

As you can see, it is currently a tie, so we have another 24 hours of voting.

See now this is where I'm confused, the graph says not- fail is in the lead with 7/6 but then you say it's 8/8.
What do you mean?
Also, was Szilard the last person to vote?

[Ninja Chocobo]

Originally Posted by Keris Rain

It was also the use in which I envisioned it occurring most frequently.

"Most" being relative here, I assume.

Originally Posted by Keris Rain

So perhaps you'd like to cast a vote into the "For FAIL" category then? We have another 8 hours left before voting ends again.

....Yeah, re-reading my post I suppose I do. But again, only rarely and in circumstances.

Originally Posted by Nameless

See now this is where I'm confused, the graph says not- fail is in the lead, but then you say it's 8/8.
What do you mean?

Memnarch said he'd vote for the side with the least votes, but it's moot for now because now the tallies actually are 8/8.

[Nameless]

Originally Posted by Ninja Chocobo

"Most" being relative here, I assume.

....Yeah, re-reading my post I suppose I do. But again, only rarely and in circumstances.


Memnarch said he'd vote for the side with the least votes, but it's moot for now because now the tallies actually are 8/8.

Ahh I see.
The only issue with that is that the losing group is always one point behind, meaning we'll never actually finish this thing.

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Nameless

See now this is where I'm confused, the graph says not- fail is in the lead, but then you say it's 8/8.
What do you mean?
Was Szilard the last person to vote?

The table shows who's voted for what, but memarch had voted for whoever is currently losing, so his vote keeps switching. It was 7/8, so memarch counted as voting "For FAIL", so it became 8/8.

Originally Posted by Ninja Chocobo

"Most" being relative here, I assume.

I'm only looking to get a couple of throwaway references to FAIL, so as not to throw out someone else's idea.

Originally Posted by Ninja Chocobo

....Yeah, re-reading my post I suppose I do. But again, only rarely and in circumstances.

Well, if you don't want FAIL not to appear in the ABR at all, then I'll put you down as "For Including FAIL".


EDIT: Damn your ninja edit and some forum lag NC!

Originally Posted by Nameless

Ahh I see.
The only issue with that is that the losing group is always one point behind, meaning we'll never actually finish this thing.

Not if one group pulls two points ahead, or we wait 48 hours after a tied vote.

[Lemming]

Originally Posted by Lemming

It seems to me that viewers would actually call the TV version the original name instead of the other way around. Unless they don't want their kids to know what's going on with the terrorists in the real world, then they might say FAIL when the kids are around (highly unlikely). But aside from that viewers would recognize that FAIL is just a take-off of ALF, and call FAIL ALF. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Besides, every other media probably calls it ALF, why would ONE TV show make people call an organization a joke name when EVERYTHING ELSE (newspapers, government, etc.) calls it something else. The show might be popular, but it can't make everyone call a terrorist organization a joke name.

And:

Originally Posted by Lemming

So why can't we just keep it in the TV show and not have normal people call ALF FAIL.

...So if I don't care whether its in the TV show or not, but don't want it used in real life that much, I should switch to "Use FAIL"?

[Nameless]

Originally Posted by Lemming

And:


...So if I don't care whether its in the TV show or not, but don't want it used in real life that much, I should switch to "Use FAIL"?

Using in just in the TV show isn't the problame, it's using it in real life that's the problame, which is what we're arguing about... I think. >.>

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Lemming

...So if I don't care whether its in the TV show or not, but don't want it used in real life that much, I should switch to "Use FAIL"?

Nameless called a vote on whether the concept of FAIL should be kicked out of ABR completely. So if you don't want that, vote "For including FAIL", and then after that we can vote on how much people use it.

Go-go length democratic process!

[Bayar]

I vote against FAIL.

Why ? It just sounds retarded IMO.

[The Gremlin]

Originally Posted by Lemming

And:


...So if I don't care whether its in the TV show or not, but don't want it used in real life that much, I should switch to "Use FAIL"?

That would be accurate. 'Use FAIL' is really just allowing it in FI at all, in the show mostly, occasionally used outside it. Especially around children, as the word 'FAIL' is less likely to upset them than a 'real' name like ALF.

[-skimmer-]

Still arguing about that nonsense? Do you people even understand what "nickname" mean? Who wants call them FAIL, then call them FAIL and who dont, its his choice. After all this is how nicknames has been created (Even the worst like this one). I cant disallow that. (its not like I could even disallow something, but you know what I am trying to say)

[Keris]

So can I put your vote down for "For Including FAIL" then?
If you want, I could word it as "Against the Exclusion of FAIL", because it amounts to the same thing.

*Totally not trying to gain as many votes as possible through clever campaigning.*
Which is a lie. I mean, that's the point of campaigning.