Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XXIV: What is this "Haste" you speak of?

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

Yes vaporization transmutes the matter into dust.

A spell that protects you from transmutation does not protect you from heat.

Otherwise your temperature would be that of the absolute zero.

[DoomITP]

Protection from Heat.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

Yes vaporization transmutes the matter into dust.

No, lasers burn stuff (really fast) which isn't classified as transmutation, by the way wouldn't transmutation be a mutation? (I've heard the X-gene been mentioned as a transmutation)

That aside; The lasers aren't magical thus spells to protect you against a kind of magic shouldn't work against them

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

Protection from Heat.

Originally Posted by d20srd

When the spell absorbs 12 points per caster level of energy damage (to a maximum of 120 points at 10th level), it is discharged.

Don't tell me lasers capable of cutting directly through "9 feet of adamantine" in a few second can't surpass that meagre "120 points of damage".

[DoomITP]

All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.

I'm done talking to you.

[DoomITP]

I win.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

All of the casters combine their strength to cast one extra powerful Protection from Heat.

The power of the laser would still be stronger even if they where given time to research a way to combine the spells. There's also a high probability that the ships have some sort of anti-magic defences, besides the lasers can keep on firing but the mages can't remake the spell that quick (since the spell takes at least 6 seconds to cast then it should be stronger than six seconds of laser fire, which I highly doubt)

And you haven't won yet

[Mad Mask]

@Megadoomer: That's so petty. You're like Randomizer, always saying your characters a more powerful than everybody else and will challenge everyone who says something to the contrary by adding them additional powers.

[Szilard]

Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by Szilard

Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.

All lasers do move at the speed of light. You can't see them before they hit you.

[SinisterPenguin]

Originally Posted by Szilard

Unless the lasers fire at the speed of light (probably, considering that a laser is just condensed light and whatnot) it would be easy to dodge seeing as it goes in a mostly strait line.

Er...don't lasers have to fire at the speed of light?

EDIT: Argh, ninja'd by MM.

[Szilard]

Originally Posted by SinisterPenguin

Er...don't lasers have to fire at the speed of light?

Star Wars.

[Grim ranger]

Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Yes, but it isn't as armoured as the Sovereign and can't take out Alphantican ships as easily as its sister ship (no torpedoes). The two complemented each other: the Yamato had lasers against air and ground targets, and the Sovereign had torpedoes against naval targets.

Can't the other ships in the fleet fill in? The main opponent now is the Citadel anyway. It has the PCs in.

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Lasers. And it wasn't an explosion, but a combustion.

Got me terminology wrong. So the lasers concentrated on each sphere, and ignited the occupants?

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

There are spells that protect against transmutation spells pal.

They protect against spells, technology is not magic. Very different principles.

Originally Posted by megadoomer45

Protection from Heat.

It's "Protection from Energy (Fire)", by the way.
And lasers do non-elemental damage according to the DMG, so you're out of luck there.

Originally Posted by Grim ranger

Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?

Squark destroyed one. Besides, they're a thing of Plot.

[T-O-E]

RIP identical duskblade drones with blond-hair and grey robes.
Their sarcifice shall not have been in vain.

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by Szilard

Star Wars.

The weapon in Star Wars aren't lasers. They're blasters. Blasters fire bolts of noisy glowy stuff, while lasers are silent (except for the cooling noise) and almost invisible.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Grim ranger

Might I counter you argument, MM, by adding that you have made all tajiran ships force which nothing could logically defeat, merely slow down. Now who has gone overboard with powers, eh?

The ships aren't supposed to be fighted by the PCs, all you need is heavy weapons (like the Citadel) like in real life and he himself blew up their best weaponry.

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

The weapon in Star Wars aren't lasers. They're blasters. Blasters fire bolts of noisy glowy stuff, while lasers are silent (except for the cooling noise) and almost invisible.

Actually, several weapons in Star Wars are canonically lasers, not blasters. But as they operate by the same visual effects, so either the galaxy far, far away has different physical laws, or the so called "lasers" are merely blasters with the plasma excited by an internal laser.

[memnarch]

If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by memnarch

If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?

Don't the Tajira have some nuclear power like stuff not to mention being able to power it themselves?

Oh, and a scientist/alchemist did it

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by memnarch

If I might so bold as to ask, where the heck are you getting the massive amounts of energy used to power all those laser batteries/turrets?

Here you go.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Originally Posted by Keveak

That aside; The lasers aren't magical thus spells to protect you against a kind of magic shouldn't work against them

Here's my rationale:

The lasers are made of energetic light.
The shields are transparent.

Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.

[memnarch]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Here you go.

How much is a "Dol"?

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon

Here's my rationale:

The lasers are made of energetic light.
The shields are transparent.

Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.

Does that mean invisibility makes you immune to lasers

[Mad Mask]

Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon

Here's my rationale:

The lasers are made of energetic light.
The shields are transparent.

Therefore, the shields are allowing light to pass through them.

Since light passes through the shields (Albeit slightly reduced because they aren't fully transparent) the lasers can pass through them as well.

I thought the same way.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Originally Posted by memnarch

How much is a "Dol"?

Dol is a Sovice unit of energy measurement, it's approximately about a gigawatt.

Originally Posted by Keveak

Does that mean invisibility makes you immune to lasers

Depending on how they actually make you invisible (Ie. only if they make you 100% transparent), yes.

[Mad Mask]

Isn't invisibility an illusion ?

[Keris]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

Here you go.

Ah, good old exploitative loophole power. The other renewable energy source.

Originally Posted by Lyinginbedmon

Here's my rationale:
-snippety-

I'll be over here, behind my perfect mirror.

Originally Posted by memnarch

How much is a "Dol"?

About 4 Dol is a Pikalite's energy output.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Mad Mask

I thought the same way.

I thought the spell just wouldn't effect something not included in it's effect (protection from cold would have no effect on neither a torch nor a stone)