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Old 03-01-2010, 08:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #121
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:56 AM   Top  -  End  -  #124
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Hey, thanks for the review, man. Yeah--I wrote this a while ago, and there are a lot of things I'd change about it. If you liked it, you might want to read the sequels--they're a little better. From Breakfast to Hell is done like dinner, and Crossfire Tango is wrapping up shortly.
I thought there might be, and now that I know there are I will read them. I would have looked myself, but I can never find my way around blogs.
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Just so everybody knows, I'll try to update the roster in the next few days. This week in particular is busier than heck for me, but I should have some time after the weekend.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #126
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My story will be the one in my signature if anyone wants to get a head start on reading it while I type these up.

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I think it is so very cool that there is a thread for a writing workshop!!!


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Old 03-06-2010, 01:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #130
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And now, for my story, or at least chapter one thereof. It's currently untitled, cuz I suck at that. Genre would be fantasy. It clocks in at 2,808 words
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #132
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:36 AM   Top  -  End  -  #133
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please critique my story

warning: its exposition heavy, doesn't take place on earth and has no humans.

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Old 04-03-2010, 07:31 PM   Top  -  End  -  #134
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Yaaay, first critique. When I was looking at other peoples big ones, I thought "Woah... I'm never going to be able to write that much." But I did, and it all sort of just flowed. I was pretty surprised when I saw that I had written more that a paragraph!

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Old 04-12-2010, 02:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #136
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All right, I'll throw out a critique.

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I disgaree. I liked that way of starting the story. It set the humorous tone.

EDIT: Does critisicing a critique count as a critique?

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Old 04-13-2010, 01:37 AM   Top  -  End  -  #139
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I disgaree. I liked that way of starting the story. It set the humorous tone.

EDIT: Does critisicing a critique count as a critique?
Heh, I don't think so. Besides, having the critics disagree about your story helps a lot in making it better. It's sometimes easy to be misled and think that something one person dislikes is terrible, or that something one person likes is perfect. When they disagree, it's easier to weigh their critiques on their merits.

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thanks, I'll try and do better.
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Well, now that I've done three critiques, I suppose I ought to post something to be critiqued. Here's something I'm currently working on. It's steampunkish, early industrial age with magic. I'm considering cutting the first part of it completely, and starting with the second part, but I'd appreciate others' opinions.

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Ooh, this looks like fun!

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As for the technical parts of your review, I'll admit I'm not religious about dangling participles (I'm with Churchill. When a speechwriter corrected one in a speech of his, he supposedly sent back a note saying: "This is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put."). That said, you found a lot of examples, and I think I need to be more careful.
The "rule" against participles at the ends of sentences comes from pedants applying a rule from Latin to English without realising how many phrases sound silly if you do so (Churchill's example is a good'un). There isn't actually a real grammar rule against ending a sentence with a preposition in English. Consider: "What for?", it makes sense, and you know that it's an inquiry about the reasoning behind something. "For what?" doesn't have the same connotations, so to rewrite "What for?" without a preposition at the end would give you something like "For what reason did he do that?" which is just excessive and formal.

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Absolutely right. Posting story excerpts for critique can be useful, but you've got to be careful about posting too much. (And as I said, I'd be interested in buying it if I saw it in a bookstore.)

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Well hey, don't be too hard on yourself. Everyone makes typos and leaves misplaced commas, even published authors. That's why editors were invented. Your writing was solid and you clearly know what you're doing. As a friend of mine once said to me, "With the stories that hit me as well-written, I can't help myself from mentioning this and that, touching up a line here and there…getting nitpicky. At the same time, I have personal preferences other people don't, so naturally, agree with me except where you don't."

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The "rule" against participles at the ends of sentences comes from pedants applying a rule from Latin to English without realising how many phrases sound silly if you do so (Churchill's example is a good'un). There isn't actually a real grammar rule against ending a sentence with a preposition in English. Consider: "What for?", it makes sense, and you know that it's an inquiry about the reasoning behind something. "For what?" doesn't have the same connotations, so to rewrite "What for?" without a preposition at the end would give you something like "For what reason did he do that?" which is just excessive and formal.

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I'll be the first to admit that I'm a huge grammar pedant (also old fashioned about most of my rules).

Though in my defense, it's all my high school English teachers' fault. They used to do things like dock me ten points for ending sentences with prepositions. Absolutely nuts, I tell you. Anyway, the end result is that it makes my teeth hurt to see certain rules broken, but I understand that I'm in the minority there. I'll point them out, but don't expect most people to change them.

In regard to your specific example, "What for?" is generally something that would only pop up in dialogue, for which the rules are slightly different (because people never speak with perfect grammar, so it's okay to break the rules) but you're absolutely right that there are instances even in formal text where following the preposition rule guideline just makes the sentence awkward.
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I'm glad you like it, but yeah, I did have a bit of trouble describing Mei, and changed T'fiyana's title to "Queen of the Elven Court." Essentially, Mei is half-drow elf, half- high elf, but I didn't know if I could refer to her as part drow, since it isn't a D&D novel.

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Wow, thanks! I'm glad you liked it! Yeah, like I said, I suck at titles, and it would probably be better to wait to title it until I've at least got the whole thing plotted. It just makes it hard to save it on Word.

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Well, thanks for finding some places that need some work. Misspellings like that are hard for me to find on my own, which is the point of having someone else read it. I did fix the one mistaken reference to Mei as his sister; I was jumping around the story a bit to get it ready to post, and I think I mixed up Tim and Liam. When Dess refers to Mei as Liam's sister, that's an intentional mistake (on my part, not Dess's). I can't find where I mixed up the tenses, if you could point to a specific passage?
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In regard to your specific example, "What for?" is generally something that would only pop up in dialogue, for which the rules are slightly different (because people never speak with perfect grammar, so it's okay to break the rules) but you're absolutely right that there are instances even in formal text where following the preposition rule guideline just makes the sentence awkward.
That was a really bad example in retrospect.
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Well, thanks for finding some places that need some work. Misspellings like that are hard for me to find on my own, which is the point of having someone else read it. I did fix the one mistaken reference to Mei as his sister; I was jumping around the story a bit to get it ready to post, and I think I mixed up Tim and Liam. When Dess refers to Mei as Liam's sister, that's an intentional mistake (on my part, not Dess's). I can't find where I mixed up the tenses, if you could point to a specific passage?
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