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2010-02-18, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Basically, a challenge to create an optimised, flavourful character, using a "secret ingredient" of a particular PrC, revealed only once the competition has started. You will need to present your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:
1. Menu: For most challenges, the "secret ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.
2. Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine and Unearthed Arcana are discouraged, because of the potential for controversy or unfamiliarity; if you feel you need to use those sources, please contact me.
3. Cooking Time: Contests will be announced a week in advance, to give people time to sign up. Following a week of sign-ups, the "secret ingredient" will be announced. Contestants will have one week to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman (most likely me, at least for the first few.) Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying.
4. Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Flavour, Use of Secret Ingredient.
5. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor.
6. Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
7. Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners.
So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for 3-4 judges and as many contestants as feel like playing!
Judges:
Tackyhillbillu
Lostfang
Signmaker
Clockworkmonk
Brendan
Contestants:
sonofzeal
FishAreWet
Vulaas
RagnaroksChosen
DracoDei
Akal Saris
Eurus
Your Nemesis
redlock
Mushroom Ninja
KitTheOdd
Tinydwarfman
Dusk Eclipse
Koury
tonberrian
BooNL
Tavar
koeldflare
Godskook
Tehnar
Wings of Peace
Tanis HalfElven
9mm
Amphetryon
sofawall
term1nally s1ck
Hand of VecnaLast edited by Heliomance; 2010-02-25 at 08:50 AM.
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2010-02-18, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
The last Iron Chef I participated in, it was widely agreed that submitting five different character sheets was a pretty silly idea. That's a huge among of time and effort and stress getting everything right and working out equipment lists for each. What we ended up agreeing on was just submitting the ones you want to, rather than being obligated to to make five.
In other news, I'm in.Last edited by sonofzeal; 2010-02-18 at 02:07 PM.
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2010-02-18, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'm in.67890
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2010-02-18, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wish building characters for D&D 3.5 was simpler? Try HeroForge Anew! An Excel-based, highly automated character builder. v7.4 now out!
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2010-02-18, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
This should be good practice for me in learning to optimize better, I'd love to participate.
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2010-02-18, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
i'm in...
Where do i sign up.When the end comes i shall remember you.
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2010-02-18, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I would join this but for two factors:
1.) I am very unreliable about finishing things.
2.) And this is the important one, to encourage something like playtesting for the poor, starving-for-even-somewhat-empirical-data, homebrew forums, I would ask that you allow any PrC from the PrC contests that has gotten at least 1 vote. I would say allow anything from homebrew, except that SOME level of quality control is probably a good thing... Should I consider running this as a separate contest some time? Maybe you could just do it as a one-off thing?[Public Service Announcement]P.E.A.C.H stands for Please Examine And Critique Honestly[/Public Service Announcement]
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2010-02-18, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Heyas Heliomance =)
I think I did 3 of the 4 last iron chef challenges (and won the first, w00t!), so I'd certainly be down for it.
There's no way I'm going to do five whole character sheets again though - it was way too much work, and for one of the challenges I was the only one that bothered, which really annoyed me. I don't mind sketching out how the build evolves - I usually do it as a reminder to myself anyhow.
It's probably a good idea to get about 20 contestants or so, considering that only 2-5 ever come up with a finished build at the end.Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2010-02-18, 04:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Post edited to reflect the changed rules.
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2010-02-18, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll try my hand
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2010-02-18, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I can't guarantee that I'll have time when the contest actually starts, but if I do, I'd like to submit something.
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2010-02-18, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Ill try it.
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2010-02-18, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'm in.
Just one clarification: do we want to make a balanced, flavorful class, or an unashedly OP class?Proud member of the fanclub fanclub.
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2010-02-18, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll judge, I suppose.
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2010-02-18, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-18, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll put in a build if I have the time/inspiration. This could be a lot of fun!
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2010-02-19, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll give it a shot. I've missed the Hero Craftsman competitions on the Wizards boards.
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2010-02-19, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll judge! since you don't have any yet.
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2010-02-22, 10:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Bump: this contest will need more challengers and more judges.
Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2010-02-22, 10:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Sure, I'll join, why not?
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2010-02-22, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-22, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll throw down, if only because I have an unexplainable need to beat Eurus.
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2010-02-22, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Sounds fun. Sign me up as a contestant.
The name is "tonberrian", even when it begins a sentence. It's magic, I ain't gotta 'splain why.
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2010-02-23, 02:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'll sign up as well. I'm not the best optimizer, but I feel I do alright in creating fun characters.
However, you mention working the build out in 5 different levels. Alright, sounds like a lot of work, but fine. Does this include using all WBL though or is a brief rundown of useful equipment sufficient?
Recently resurrected. Sorry for bailing on you guys.
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Awesome OOTSatar by Crimmy, masterfully done.
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2010-02-23, 02:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
As mentioned, you don't need to give a full build at all five levels. Give a full build for at least one of them, and a rundown of what it can do at the others.
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2010-02-23, 03:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'm up for this as well. Wonder what the secret ingredient is.
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2010-02-23, 03:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Let's hope it's not koriander, only so much stuff you can do with that.
Ofcourse, with koriander I mean Monk.
Recently resurrected. Sorry for bailing on you guys.
"Never play leapfrog with a unicorn"
Awesome OOTSatar by Crimmy, masterfully done.
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2010-02-23, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I'm going to put my money on Thousand Island dressing!!
Oh, for reference the last few Iron Chef challenges included Beastmaster (without making an ubermount build) and Suel Arcanamach. So I'm hoping for something from C. Scoundrel this time around.Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2010-02-24, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
Although I'm quite new to the idea of optimising, I would like to give this a shot.
So if you could sign me up that would be awesome-sauce.
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2010-02-24, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge (As seen on BG)
I might as well try. Could be fun.
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I started my first campaign around a campfire, having pancakes. They were blueberry.
My homebrew(updated 6/17):
SpoilerIn progress:
Prolonged Spell(Fix for Persistent spell)
Weapon Training(replaces Weapon Focus chain)
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Ascendant Feats.[New content!]
Finished:
Belts of potionade