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2010-04-10, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Basically, a challenge to create an optimised, flavourful character, using a "secret ingredient" of a particular PrC, revealed only once the competition has started. You will need to present your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:
1. Menu: For most challenges, the "secret ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.
2. Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below.
3. Cooking Time: Further to discussions in the previous thread, the secret ingredient will be announced from the get-go. Contestants will have until Monday 19th April to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman (most likely me, at least for the first few.) Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying.
4. Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.
Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavour for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic point lost in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points.
5. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as I'm likely to miss it when anonymising the entries!
6. Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
7. Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners.
So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for about 5 judges and as many contestants as feel like playing!
This is our first special contest, with the secret ingredient from a non-Complete book. An interesting prestige class which I've only ever seen abusing Festering Anger for NI strength, it's the Book of Vile Darkness's Cancer Mage!
Allez optimiser!
Judges:
9mm
arguskos
Temotei221
the humanity
Iamyourking
the_archduke
(Grynning)
Contestants:
volthawk
magic9mushroom
Apollo1776
Akal Saris
Vulaas
rogueboy
Adumbration
Chineselegolas
Iferus
TerrickTerran
Hand_of_Vecna
The Vorpal Tribble
ShneekeyTheLost
FishAreWet
BooNLLast edited by Heliomance; 2010-04-12 at 03:37 AM.
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2010-04-10, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
First time I've tried anything like this, but I'll sign up.
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2010-04-10, 06:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
In b4 infinite strength Hulking Hurler...
I'll judge.
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2010-04-10, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-10, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Sorry if this sounds obvious, but how are stats generated?
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2010-04-10, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
32 point buy
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2010-04-10, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-10, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Sign me up, I gotta work on my minmaxing.
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2010-04-10, 10:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Reporting for duty as a judge again, Heliomance!
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-04-10, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Ooh...I'll be a judge.
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2010-04-10, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Cancer Mage is an interesting choice. The other Prestige Classes were generally difficult to create competent characters. This time, will be hard to get any point in elegance considering Infinite Strength is damn easy with Festering Rage.
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2010-04-10, 10:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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You decide to abuse Festering Anger? I'll give you a zero on Elegance, tanking your score. We all know how to do that, give us something fresh.
Last edited by arguskos; 2010-04-10 at 10:18 PM.
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2010-04-10, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'll try judging... couldn't come up with anything last time, and I love this class much more than Psibond Agent.
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2010-04-11, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'll compete again, though poisons are more my thing than diseases are =P
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[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
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Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!
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2010-04-11, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Registering as a competitor, as I proved far less reliable as a judge >.<
(really, really sorry on that)
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2010-04-11, 03:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'm going to at least try to put something together for this one again. Making my final graduate school commitments and figuring out plans for the summer, so I don't know how much time I'll have to put into this, sadly.
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2010-04-11, 03:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Signing up as a contestant. Let's see, now...
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2010-04-11, 04:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Signing up as a contestant. Dunno how to make something interesting at the moment, but its been far long since I made a character.
Still here, just a little busy to social post
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2010-04-11, 04:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'll sign up!
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2010-04-11, 05:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'm up for judging.
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2010-04-11, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Why not, I'll give it a shot.
Last edited by TerrickTerran; 2010-04-11 at 07:27 AM.
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2010-04-11, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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I want to play again!
Actually, can I judge this time instead?Last edited by the_archduke; 2010-04-11 at 09:07 AM.
3rd Place in Iron Chef Optimization Challenge II
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2010-04-11, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Looks like there are already 5 judges signed up, but you can count on me for judging if needed. Last time only 3 out of the 5 judges actually appeared, so extras won't hurt.
Hmm...Cancer Mage...I no longer own a BoVD but I imagine I can dig one up. this'll be interesting.Last edited by Grynning; 2010-04-11 at 01:11 PM.
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2010-04-11, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
That's plenty of judges! No more! Let's get some more contesgtants in, shall we?
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2010-04-11, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
I'll be participating again. Sorry I didn't chime in till now internet is still hit or miss.
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2010-04-11, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
About time I entered a contest. Count me in.
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2010-04-11, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Is the Dragon Magazine Compendium allowed?
I ask for the clarification because Dragon Magazine is not allowed, but the Compendium was an actual book and "all 3.5 books are allowed."
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2010-04-11, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Well, since you're no longer accepting judges, I shall simply enter as a contestant. I've got an idea, but it'll take me a day or two to see if I can get this to work. Should at least get me a decent Elegance score, if not a particularly high Power score...
SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora
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2010-04-11, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
Usually I come up with a character concept and then build a class around it. More difficult doing it this way. Elegance is my middle name, but I need a proper story for this interesting build...
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2010-04-11, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge III
SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora