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Old 06-22-2010, 02:13 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Default [BitP:R] BleachITP Reborn: OOC Thread 9

There was discussion of a reboot for the BleachITP-verse. A new beginning, more structured and with an overall lower power level. Similar deal to Ultimate Marvel.

This thread is for discussing that, to keep it out of the main thread.

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A while ago we chose Central 5, a group of five people who work as a governing body for the Soul Society. They are Kasanip, Zarah, Callos_DeTerran, Sucrose and Frozen_Feet. They are tasked with such tasks as deciding Captain promotions and upholding laws of Seireitei. Details can be found below.

In the second last thread people voted and decided that there would not be a Quincy vs Shinigami war before the actual start of the story/roleplay unlike in canon. It was also decided through a vote that Quincy arrows would destroy souls as they do in canon through a vote. People are open to the possibility of future conflicts between the two factions and the Quincy learning how to purify souls with their arrows. Learning how to do so would likely be a significant plot point.

Quincy players have decided that anyone that makes a Quincy should write up a description of their family/clan's history.

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Soul Society and the inhabitants of Las Noches (The King of Hollows, the Epsada and their underlings) have a truce between each other at the start of the game/story but both sides want to break as soon as they gain a substantial upper hand on the other.

People that want to make captain entries should write up a history for their preferred division including duties, a past captain or two and whatever else you might think important to add. It can be significantly different from canon.

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I think it was correctly noted last thread that this shouldn't be "Discussion and Setup" anymore, given that the game has actually started. More like Discussion and OOC. Or just OOC.
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Ok, it's 3:30 A.M. I'm deadtiming. In the morning I'll post the changes to Sereg on this forum for review then over to the registry.
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Uh Riccaru? When you say Brutal Fighter... what do you mean? Because Brutal Fighter is pretty much what Tark is. And I would really rather you not eclipse Tark in terms of sheer strength and Endurance.

Tark's point, storywise, is that brute strength doesn't make an Espada. Thats why he isn't scared of Jenny. He knows if he and Jenny decided to hack at each other with their weapons, he'd stand a fair chance of winning. However, that doesn't make Tark right. Jenny could kill or imprison Tark at any time she wanted to.

Having someone around who 'out-Tarked' Tark would kind of ruin that.
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Fine by me, Genoveva does have other tricks she can...er...sorta fall back on. Gemini Sonido, her cero,...and...her aspect auras. Okay, so she really doesn't have fallback tricks but I'm fine with what was proposed.

EDIT: I do find it disconcerting that the top two Espada releases are based around physical improvement though, possibly Arcelia's too but at least she gets new tricks with those boosts.

EDIT: Wait, what now about Tark?
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Tark, in terms of sheer physical strength and endurance, is at the level of an Espada. If that was all that mattered, Tark could easily be jostling for the position of Segunda or Primera. But he doesn't have any tricks. Any of the Espada could beat him, rather easily (for instance, using Sonido to create flash duplicates of themselves and leave him hacking at air.)

He is sheer strength, with no finesse, no guiding hand. Thats kind of what he is here to do. To get beaten by people he sees as weaker.
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I have some bad news, peeps. See, my home dog told me some shiaight about stuff, then I found out about this other mofluke who was all like "naaaaw" and I was all like "YAW". So I'm getting pounded with work, and I don't think I'll be able to participate in the end. I just don't have enough time in a day to really read all the text, respond, etc. I don't want to slow y'all down, so you dawgs can carry on without me. I guess Himura can be an NPC... or someone can take her over.

Again; sorry folks. I am simply too busy with multiple projects (personal and financial) to play without dragging out every single conversation like a game of Risk. The most I can do is give the occasional tip on Himura's personality if someone decides to RP her.

Oh, and feel free to have her killed in some dramatic way. She's pretty hard to kill... so maybe retirement could work better. That's only if you want to take her out of the picture entirely. Just whatever you do, don't let the 12th turn her into a puppet or something out of Draken's happiest dream.

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I actually really wanted to do a subplot with Hannibal. Himura would secretly love him, but completely hate herself for it, and so it would turn into this constant loop of love and hate and some other thing that I can't describe. Yep. Never even PM'd Foot_Face about it.

I decided on that in my first post with Himura talking to Hannibal. >>
Awww... sad to see you go. That'd would've been such a nice little sub-plot.

To everyone, as well as Boo:

I suggest we retire Himura, and have her remain as a janitor of 11th's as soon as someone steps up to take up the mantle of 11th's captain. I'll control her, for the part she needs to play in Episode 2. After that, she's an NPC, but will be around if you ever find enough to come back, Boo. I'll be happy to fill you in on what has happened should that day come.

So... anyone want to play successor to Himura?
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I am also sad, Boo, that you are unable to play after all the effort you put in. I hope someday you can return and join this game once more.

Perhaps we can have Himura step down as an in-game event, then RP electing someone new?

Edit: How exactly does Bonding with a Doll work for Bount? Is it something that adds new ability to them, or is it something else that permanently changes their relationship with the Doll?
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Yes, having it be in-game event would be nice. I offer to play Himura for the incident, but if someone else is interested in her, I will step aside.

@tgva: Bonding is the Doll and the Bount fusing - it might add some abilities, but perhaps the biggest thing is the Bount has total control over the Doll's abilities, and isn't in danger of being eaten by it.

@KD, Vael: You had some good questions about Demons. However, I'd like to point out Hollows and Shinigami themselves are quite demonic and angelic. For example, "Summon Angel X" that summoned, say, Arcelia or Elder would make sense.

Also, me, Innis, and some others, have been playing around with the idea that some Kido chants were inspired by ancient, powerful Hollows, Shinigami, and what have you. For example, Von Geister and Elder are both millenias old, and have undoubtedly sparked some legends and myths both in mortal and afterlife.

So, the idea is that the Rider will be Bount, just like any other Bount - he's "demonic" in the sense that he's a horrifying, ancient being of evil, and corresponds to a certain character in Shinigami mythology. Whether he is that character and has all qualities attributed to it is another matter entirely. He has the power to be summoned by a Kido chant, to track down the caster's foes.

Also, is my dictionary right that German uses the same word (Reiter) for both the rider and the steed? That's so... Shirosaki.
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@tgva: Bonding is the Doll and the Bount fusing - it might add some abilities, but perhaps the biggest thing is the Bount has total control over the Doll's abilities, and isn't in danger of being eaten by it.
So is bonding something that happens during battle, or is it a permanent change in the relationship that eliminates the Doll's personality from interfering (like Kariya)?
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So is bonding something that happens during battle, or is it a permanent change in the relationship that eliminates the Doll's personality from interfering (like Kariya)?
In the last game, Bonding was reversible and acted pretty much like a Bankai, if I recall right. I think we've kept it the same.
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In the last game, Bonding was reversible and acted pretty much like a Bankai, if I recall right. I think we've kept it the same.
Cool, that's what I thought. That works so much better.
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Looks pretty good to me, tgva.

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Here's the draft for my eveil, evil Bount. Okay, so he's not that evil, but still. Maybe he can be ancestor of Armin? Because, you know, magic bullets. If you don't get it, it's a reference to Der Freischütz.

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Went to look over an online dictionary and Reiter apparently means rider, equestrian, horseman and cavalier, but not mount.

hamefully the same dictionary has many, many meanings of mount and I couldn't discern which one actually refers to horses (mostly I saw verbs and... Mountains).

There is Pferd for horse, Ross for horse/steed, Rappe for Black Horse and Schlachtross for Warhorse/Charger. As other options from the dictionary.

I am torn between suggesting and not suggesting Rappe.
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Shouldn't his summoning Kido be...I dunno, higher?

I find it interesting that he is much, much more powerful than his Doll, who basically acts as a ride and a flamethrower.
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Higher than 89? There is just 10 levels left to go up, and 88 to go down. I think it is pretty high.
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Went to look over an online dictionary and Reiter apparently means rider, equestrian, horseman and cavalier, but not mount.

hamefully the same dictionary has many, many meanings of mount and I couldn't discern which one actually refers to horses (mostly I saw verbs and... Mountains).

There is Pferd for horse, Ross for horse/steed, Rappe for Black Horse and Schlachtross for Warhorse/Charger. As other options from the dictionary.

I am torn between suggesting and not suggesting Rappe.
Bizarre enough. The dictionary I'm using is hell-bent on the double meaning. But Schlachtross, or Hengst (Stallion) would also work. What's it about rappe that makes it so funny to you?
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Summoning him seems a lot more useful than summoning a bunch of fiery doom dragons or a giant stone block and full-body bindings.
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You'll note that Wu Wei spells are in fact made to have great variety in their uses. Thats their point. Hado spells are -just- to blow things up. Its hard to have variety in the form of a nuke, or in a wall that stops all damage.

Also, I mentioned this to Frozen, but this idea for the Huntsman ties in to a fairly large project I am going to undertake today and continue as I move to my new house. I will be writing an Epic, a source of some of the Kido incantantions, and what I hope to be an interesting read that also should hopefully help people come up with other incantations.
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Bizarre enough. The dictionary I'm using is hell-bent on the double meaning. But Schlachtross, or Hengst (Stallion) would also work. What's it about rappe that makes it so funny to you?
The potential of people not noticing it is german and thinking it is english (bad english) amuses me endlessly.
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Shouldn't his summoning Kido be...I dunno, higher?

I find it interesting that he is much, much more powerful than his Doll, who basically acts as a ride and a flamethrower.
I think it's quite high as is. It's high-level more due to the price it carries, rather than being difficult.

As for the rider being more powerful than his doll... actually, he isn't, not by that much. The horse is, technically, what the rider is to a man, a diabolically powerful simulacrum. It just... happens to be a horse. It lacks killer's instinct and opposable thumbs. It does have a mean kick, though.

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Summoning him seems a lot more useful than summoning a bunch of fiery doom dragons or a giant stone block and full-body bindings.
Summoning Zamiel is also costly. But his usefulness is more in wider applicability than raw power - if you really need to kill an army, you summon that bunch fiery dragons. If you really need to keep someone like Hannibal down, you use Bankin. If you need to track and fetch a single person, or someone to do your laundry / homework, you summon the Hunstman.

Really, a Shinigami Captain can achieve the same thing by sending a message to one of his seated officers. The Huntsman is there for when you have no-one else, or need an agent unbound by rules and morals of Seireitei.
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Even if all I wanted to do was blow someone up, I'd rather summon the nearly-invincible guy with a horse that breathes fire at the small cost of some of my reiryoku, reiryoku that I would have had to expend casting the fiery doom dragons spell anyways.
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Well, I am also working on a kido to desummon the entity, and it still can be stopped by physical means. He can still be damaged clearly, and stopped by other means. The dragon? Not so much. The summon is also a Forbidden Spell. Which, are usually stronger then...ya know. Not forbidden spells.
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Even if all I wanted to do was blow someone up, I'd rather summon the nearly-invincible guy with a horse that breathes fire at the small cost of some of my reiryoku, reiryoku that I would have had to expend casting the fiery doom dragons spell anyways.
I'm flattered to hear that, but when it comes to blowing stuff up, Hado 99 wins over the Huntsman. Plus, before Zamiel has discussed the conditions of his service, he will do jack squat - there's hardly enough time to do that in the heat of battle.
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