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I'm thinking a third. Is XPH 3.0 material? The differences could just be a byproduct of the whip being updated between 3.0 and 3.5.
As I have the 3.0 version handy, that version treated the creation of the fire lash as a SLA, which would seem to imply that the lash itself was treated as a weapon. There are, however, some rather significant differences between the 3.0 and 3.5 versions of the class.
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Already gave my opinion and how I'm treating the whip issue. Can't speak for the others, obviously.
Fortunately, I can.
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For my judgments, I am reading Fire Lash as a 15-ft long, 1d8 fire damage, RTA-based, whip. It can do anything a whip can do, is always 15 ft long, and always does 1d8 fire damage. Makes sense to me (Occam's Razor and all that).
This is reasonable, so I'll agree with arguskos. Power Attack is fair game, tripping is fair game, etc.
Work on my homebrew system, CRE8, is still marching slowly onwards. I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel -- an Alpha release -- in the distance now. Read my Design Goals here.
I'll throw my towel in with arguskos's and Private-Prinny's ruling on the fire lash. If you can do it with a regular whip, you can do it with the lash.
Can you use abilities that augment melee attacks with a standard whip?
Most specifically, ToB maneuvers? I do believe so.
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I haven't gotten any builds yet, and no questions were being asked. Besides, not having that many posts isn't really a bad thing.
So I still have a chance to get by build in first like I have for the last few I've entered...
I'm actually taking a lot of time to write back-story and flavour into the build rather than just making the build and with a light story with it.
It is taking forever to write... And not very good either. Still, my mechanical is done. Will probably give up on fluff sometime this evening.
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Mine is in, so we don't risk a contest without contestants. :p
I'm wandering if there could be better exploitation and surely it could be: this time the secret ingredient was good, not too difficult to enter and able to sinergize very well with almost everything.
Hope to see other's work soon, since mine is not completely satisfying.
This is reasonable, so I'll agree with arguskos. Power Attack is fair game, tripping is fair game, etc.
Well, Power Attack is okay as long as one remembers that a base whip does non-lethal damage, meaning that the increased damage that results from using Power Attack is also treated as non-lethal. Even if the whip is enchanted to do 1d8 fire damage it's base damage remains non-lethal. IMO the benefit of Power Attack cannot be added to the damage of an enchantment.
Well, Power Attack is okay as long as one remembers that a base whip does non-lethal damage, meaning that the increased damage that results from using Power Attack is also treated as non-lethal. Even if the whip is enchanted to do 1d8 fire damage it's base damage remains non-lethal. IMO the benefit of Power Attack cannot be added to the damage of an enchantment.
Except that it's not an enhancement. The fire lash has a base 1d8 fire damage, meaning that extra damage is also fire damage.
Work on my homebrew system, CRE8, is still marching slowly onwards. I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel -- an Alpha release -- in the distance now. Read my Design Goals here.
I'll send one in as well if I have time, but unfortunately this has been a very hectic week for me, and tomorrow and Friday are going to be busy as well. Busy in a good way though :)
I'll send one in as well if I have time, but unfortunately this has been a very hectic week for me, and tomorrow and Friday are going to be busy as well. Busy in a good way though :)
Quick! Hurry! Enter and end the contest, before Akal blows you all away!
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Isn't that generally how it goes? More people sign up than actually submit builds?
Yuppers. Tends to work that way, anyhow. *shrugs* I'm expecting around 6-8 entries, like standard.
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... so I just sent in an entry.
