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Old 05-25-2011, 11:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #451
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:14 AM   Top  -  End  -  #452
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Wow, for all my life I have looked for a class that I would want to be if I had the chance. Wizard usually fit the bill but... LIBRARY CAT. My life is complete.
Does this mean you'll be going for a different PrC with Bartholomeow?
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #454
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No, Bartholomeow is too evil to be a librari-- oh wait...

j/k :P nah, he's a soul-sucking being of pure fluffy darkness.
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Ooh, I like the Sea Tiger. Just saw Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. Want to play a Sea Tiger.

And finish up the Sand Cat, Library Cat, and Burger Chef. They look interesting.
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #456
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I'm trying I'm really pressed for time for the next few weeks though
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Ah, well in that case, take your time.
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I may have too I'm gonna be pressed for time really badly this whole month.
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well i have the abilitieis named. hopefully i get teh chance to flesh them out soon
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Sand Cat has most of it's abilities up.
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Class Abilities: Kitty Form (Big Cat), Burglaring (Sneak Attack)
Feats: Heat Endurance, Sandskimmer (see Sandstorm)
Never read Sandstorm, but Sandskimmer doesn't SOUND like the sort of feat that you can take more than once. Despite this, you both require it, and give it as a bonus feat at first level. Unless Sand Skimmer gives resistance to heatstroke etc, you could probably replace the feat with an Endure Elements effect with respect to heat only, to tide them over until they get to 3rd level (perhaps in addition to a more useful ability?).
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Skills: Hide 6 ranks, Knowledge (Geography) 4 ranks, Move Silently 6 ranks, Listen 4 ranks, Spot 4 ranks, Survival 8 ranks

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The Sand Cat's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Diplomacy (Cha), Gather Information (Cha), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Local, Geography, Nature)(Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Search (Int), Sense Motive (Wis), Spot (Wis), Survival (Wis), Tumble (Dex).
Are you sure you want to have Sense Motive and Gather Information in there? These guys don't seem like they are focused on doing much in town. They could have other members of the guild to fence stuff, and beside which they don't have Appraise as a class skill.
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Skills Points at Each Level : 8 + int
Surprisingly I am OK with this. They have enough class skills...
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Sandskimmer: At 1st Level you get the Sandskimmer Feat (see Sandstorm pg 52).
As I noted before, this looks like an error to me.
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Sand Camouflage: At 2nd Level you gain the Sand Camouflage Feat as a Bonus Feat (see Sandstorm pg 51).
I hear that some people dislike feats as class abilities. I have done it myself (with my Society Members), but they got a LOT of feats (probably averaging two per level AT LEAST, especially if you include the two Exotic Weaponry feats that the class grants in a stealthy way), and also gave some very nice unique class features. Will discuss your class features as I come to them.
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Fire Resistance (Ex): At Level 3 you gain Fire Resistance 5. This increases to 10 at Level 6, and 20 at Level 9..
Boring but reasonably useful.
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Sandswimmer (Su): You can swim through sand, dust ash and even softsand (but not hard packed dirt, slipsand or rock). You can sandswim through such materials at your base land speed while wearing light armor or carrying a light load. Your speed drops to 5 ft if wearing heavier armor or carrying a medium load. You cannot make headway through sand with a heavy load. You breathe normally while under the sand. This supernatural ability does not allow you to breathe in mediums other than sand or hold their breath to avoid dangerous gases or fumes..
Four levels in and the first INTERESTING ability. Seems fun, but not quite fun enough to justify the long wait. You should probably specify that the speed of the sand (usually zero) counts as the speed of the water, just for maximum clarity. EDIT: Also, upon getting this ability they should add Swim to the class list, perhaps with the proviso that any skillpoints spent on that skill from this PrC ONLY count when swimming through sand... then again, when it DOES rain in the desert you do tend to get flash flooding so... Although depending on GM interpretation (which you might want to clarify) they can survive a flood by burrowing into deep enough sand (as in deep enough not to get washed away). Just because any spaces between the grains happen to be filled with water rather than air doesn't mean they are not in sand.
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Sand Ambush (Ex):
Don't know what you are planning here, but this could quite easily simply be the ability to see through sand a certain distance (Ideally enough to hide, but not enough to easily find the berried ruins of that ancient city). If not, you should probably add such an ability somewhere else, unless Sandskimmer grants Tremor Sense or something. Being able to travel doesn't help stealth nearly as much if you can't see where you are going or what has shown up.
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Tremorsense Camouflage (Su): At 7th level you can move on or through sand and be invisible to Tremor Sense so long as you do not attack on that round. If you can move out of any squares your opponents threaten the round after you attack, without attacking, you resume invisibility.
Does this count if you then move back in during the same round?
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The Paw from Below (Ex):
EDIT: No idea what this will be... Sneak Attack damage but only under certain circumstances.
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Sand Whirlpool (Su):
EDIT: I can imagine what this one will be, and it sounds awesome... my only question is if it involves sandswiming in circles to create and maintain the effect.
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PLAYING A SAND CAT
Deserts with indigenous wildcat populations tend to produce shy, reclusive animals who kill vermin. On the one hand this means you get left to your r own business and no one bothers you.
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On the other you can't move as freely because of this, nor can you leave witnesses.
Combat: Sand Cats are masters of the ambush, striking from hiding whenever possible. They truly enjoy hamstringing opponents from underneath the sand.
Advancement: Sand Cats have certain necessities their survivalist lifestyle demands, so they tend to advance along strict lines that improve their needed skills.
Resources: Resources are scarce in the desert, but the Guild will help you IF their survival is also threatened. Or they owe you one.

SAND CATS IN THE WORLD
"You will always be lucky if you know how to make friends with strange cats."
Sand Cats live a bit of a harsh existence as desert bandits, but they wouldn't have it any other way. They are quite proud of their survival skills. They are also quite proud of their ability to take on much more powerful forces through the creative use of traps and ambushes.
Daily Life: Much of the Sand Cats daily life is taken up by the search for food, water, and essentials. Good scroungers are prized among the Sand Cats.
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Organizations: Most Sand Cat Guilds are small bandit families. Very few get large, as large Guilds require large amounts of resources, and squabbles for power erupt when times are thin.

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NPC's will generally have a great variety of rumors and folklore based on cats if there are Sand Cats nearby. Many will find them terrifying.

SAND CATS IN THE GAME
This assumes the PC has led some pretty hard times, and may be a bit more hard-hearted than other PC's. Trey to avoid this leading to conflict..
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I feel this one exemplifies the class much better than the one that Bhu actually has up there right now.

That was the idea. Wonder where the text in my post went T-T oh well.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:32 AM   Top  -  End  -  #466
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New PrC idea: Cave Cat! Thigh I don't like that picture, the cat looks strange. It's probably a bad photoshop.
Ironically that is a picture of a Sand Cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Cat

Draco: Sandskimmer can be taken twice. Will be fixing typos and text to address other concerns.
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I hope to have a brief break from the job this week. Be patient and will update soon.
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Sand Cat updated, just needs capstone
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10' Tremorsense only helps against invisible foes really, since you can already see through sand... still good, just not AS good.
Which reminds me... unless one of the feats does this, you might consider stealing a trick from my Wing Dragon's Fog Immunity and allow the sand-vision to also let them see through airborn sand... IE sandstorms are much much less of a problem. Dunno if the class really needs the help or not, but it would be cool.
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3 more days and i can concentrate on this, plz be patient
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Job is done, hoping for new stuff tomorrow or the weekend. SPeaking of which i have till Monday to get paid pr the isp shuts off. If this happens have no fear i shall return
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Well, I don't have Stormwrack, so I can't fully comment.

You mention people with Sandswim being allowed to use swim checks in place of a save... but you never specified if it counts as a swim speed (thus getting a +8 bonus), and they still don't have swim as a class skill, or bonuses to swim checks when sandswimming or anything, so I am not sure how much it will come up.
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Is this a cat thread!? Could it be!?

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Well, I don't have Stormwrack, so I can't fully comment.

You mention people with Sandswim being allowed to use swim checks in place of a save... but you never specified if it counts as a swim speed (thus getting a +8 bonus), and they still don't have swim as a class skill, or bonuses to swim checks when sandswimming or anything, so I am not sure how much it will come up.
I edited sandswim a lil to make it clearer. The maelstrom spell does 3f8 damage per round i think. Ill edit the text for the cap a lil too
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Great work, I would just like some clarification the PrCs work off the 3rd revision correct.
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