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Old 07-13-2011, 02:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #541
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Shirley is Arlong's sister???
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #543
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I honestly thought that it was some sort of translation error when I first read it, (with the abundant use of "Aniki" in One Piece, that wouldn't surprise me) but it looks like it's actually true! But, how in the world does that work? Are they actually half-brother and sister, or can mermen and fishmen freely *ahem* together? just how strange can a person's family tree be in One Piece?
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #544
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In the case of fishmen and mermaids, really strange indeed. Apparantly, not are they just compatible with each other and humans, all the different subspecies are compatible as well, and they have genetic memory dating way back, meaning some traits can skip generations. And by "traits", we don't mean anything as trivial as eye or hair color, but extra limbs and poison glands.

Imagine - in human society, just the kid having an off hair color can render on parent suspicious of the fidelity of the other. In the case of marine people, two shark can get a squid and go "eh, it doesn't mean anything". o.o
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:16 AM   Top  -  End  -  #545
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What if the trait skipping could apply to humans as well?

Imagine a woman giving birth to an octopus fishman and start freaking out, only to be reassured by her husband that it's okay because his grandfather was an Anglerfish fishman.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #546
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They explain that you know. In the very arc we're in. Mermaids and Mermen don't have to be the same as the parents or their siblings. A Fishman is a Fishman no matter what type he is. Same with mermaids.
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Exactly. That reminds me of Lovecraft's Deep Ones, actually. Interesting parallel, there.
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I can't help but think that, if the Energy Steroids are like supermega steroids, that side-effects include extreme acne, weight gain and gender swapping. This will leave Hodi as a fat, pimply old lady.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #549
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They explain that you know. In the very arc we're in. Mermaids and Mermen don't have to be the same as the parents or their siblings. A Fishman is a Fishman no matter what type he is. Same with mermaids.
The point of contention for me is that up until now, fishmen and mermen were stated to be two separate species. If Shirley is really Arlong's brother, then that means that a fishman and a mermaid's children use the same trait skipping randomness instead of producing some sort of hybrid that would be formed if a human and a mermaid had kids together.

What's the point of stating them to be two different species if genetically, they behave exactly the same? Heck, if Arlong had kids, would they also have a chance to be mermen as well?

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I like this idea. Someday, Hody will be the flabby has-been Governator, but for now, he is the Terminator, and he'll make sure everybody knows it.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:24 AM   Top  -  End  -  #550
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It could be Fishmen and Mermaids are different species, but share Genus with each other and humans. Hybrid offspring are possible in the same way as Ligers and Tigons. The genetic memory mechanism mermaids and fishmen both have are likely similar in principle, but not in content. What traits are activated in hybrid offspring is a total crapshoot that could depend on any number of environmental factors.

One could probably write couple biology essays on how it could work, and what the implications are, really.
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Well, I guess the fishmen/mermen issue can't be discussed with real world biology as I think it's impossible with Ace' mother's pregnancy... Oda doesn't care for science! Or maybe they aren't different species but merely different phenotypes which happen to be named differently. Like... male and females but on another scale. But yeah, I better not delve too much into it, last proper biology class was a while ago and I still have issues to wrap my mind around insect sexes. Damn haploid genoms.
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And this is why I don't do biology. Anything more complicated than Pokemon breeding is far too much for me.
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I still don't get pokémon breeding. Anything more than Punnett squares really.

EDIT: About the new chapter, All I can say is that Hodi is gonna fall. HARDCORE Also,
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:56 AM   Top  -  End  -  #554
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I'm not sure if anyone here has seen this, but Universal Studios Japan has recently erected replicas of the graves of:
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Well, with no new chapter this week, I needed to figure out how I'm gonna get my weekly One Piece fix. I decided to catch up on the anime episodes that I've been missing (especially the Funi Dub episodes).

For those who don't know, Funimation provides free streaming of One Piece anime episodes for those who live in America (I don't know for sure if it is available for those in other countries though, sorry)

Anyway, you can find the episodes on Funimation's own website or on One Piece Official (just go to "videos")

Since the Funi Dub is on the G8 arc right now (which is in my opinion, the best filler arc in One Piece), I'll say this:
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Condoriano hmm. I only know the manga, so are the one piece anime fillers worth watching?
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In general, the fillers are worth watching. You'll see some of the cover stories animated and fleshed out (Coby and Helmeppo, the split up Straw Hat crew) and some other unique islands on the Grand Line. The only filler that I really disliked are the Alabasta filler before they reach Erumalu, and the filler that occurs just before Thriller Bark. (Don Accino was pretty much the only good thing to come from that filler)

The G8 arc is exceptional because it links really well with the previous arc and it showcases every Straw Hat crew members skills outside of combat. It even has Nico Robin demonstrate some of her skills as an assassin. Usopp successfully lies, (albeit the ruse lasts a short time) and Usopp's lie was where Condoriano was created. He was really a marine inspector, but his incompetence always helped the Straw Hats.

Edit: Finally caught up in anime episodes, and just in time for the new episode tonight.

Edit Edit: Just found out that there is apparently no new episode until next week.
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New chapter...

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New chapter is out, and it felt like forever:

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Well, yeah, awesome new chapter.

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Hody is so very very dead.
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The G8 arc is exceptional because it links really well with the previous arc and it showcases every Straw Hat crew members skills outside of combat. It even has Nico Robin demonstrate some of her skills as an assassin. Usopp successfully lies, (albeit the ruse lasts a short time) and Usopp's lie was where Condoriano was created. He was really a marine inspector, but his incompetence always helped the Straw Hats.
It's also right next to Ocean's Dream (as yawnsome in reality as concept) and a double helping of Stupid Foxy (The Davy Back arc is twice as long in the anime as the manga, in the manga it's there as a breather between Skypiea and the emotional rollercoaster that is Water 7/Enies Lobby, in the anime there was G8 for that and everything else feels like filler).
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It's also right next to Ocean's Dream (as yawnsome in reality as concept) and a double helping of Stupid Foxy (The Davy Back arc is twice as long in the anime as the manga, in the manga it's there as a breather between Skypiea and the emotional rollercoaster that is Water 7/Enies Lobby, in the anime there was G8 for that and everything else feels like filler).
Yep, this is a rare instance of a filler arc that might actually be better than the official story arc. However, the Foxy arc did give us Afro Luffy. Plus, for all his silliness, Foxy was clever enough to take full advantage of his devil fruit in whatever way that he could. So Foxy arc had some things going for it.
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But...Shirahoshi, would it not have been just to punish the person who perpetrated the crime? Can't wait to see Hodi destroyed. I just got the feeling that only reason he got roided up was to serve as the Worf when they take him down
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New episode of One Piece is up on One Piece Official

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New chapter is out, yay:

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