2/28/2013 - Update on Thumb
12/31/2012 - There's a New Comic
12/12/2012 - The "Lost" Holiday Ornament (and Child's Play)
11/26/2012 - Leftover OOTS Swag on Sale (+Thumb Report)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Order of the Stick 888 Dream Wedding
Erfworld 163 The End of Book One
Erfworld Now at Erfworld.com!
RSS Feeds: OOTS

The Duke's Wolf, Part Four by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Three by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Two by Amber E. Scott

The New World, Part 9: Barbarians by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 8: Gnomes by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 7: Names and Cultures by Rich Burlew
Looking for the Gaming Articles?

 



Welcome back! Be sure you have read and understand the Forum Rules.


Go Back   Giant in the Playground Forums > Gaming > Homebrew Design
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read End

Homebrew Design Roll up your sleeves and get working: there's lots of homebrewin' to be done! Post your custom creation for critiques or review those of your peers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-22-2010, 07:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Ok, so ChumpLump and I have been talking and decided that we need to collaborate and come up with a series of races in a similar vein as my Paleborn.

The common thread these races share is an intrinsic connection to negative energy that has left them partially undead for one reason or another. This condition is represented by the subtype listed below and is followed by the first sample race: The Ghoulborn, a companion race for my Paleborn. More races to come as I make them.

Deadborn Subtype
Spoiler


Ghoulborn (Ghoul)
Spoiler


Shriekborn (Banshee)
Spoiler


Deadstock (Deathbringer)
Spoiler


Jahira (Jahi)
Spoiler


Spewspawn (Plaguespewer)
Spoiler


Bleaktouched (Bleakborn)
Spoiler


Cystic (Skulking cyst)
Spoiler


Neglected (Slaymate)
Spoiler


Griever (Wheep)
Spoiler


Atrophic (Atropal/Atropal Scion)
Spoiler


Defiled (Blaspheme)
Spoiler


Shaded (Nightshades)
Spoiler


Unsound (Allip)
Spoiler


Masque (Visage)
Spoiler

Comments? Ideas? Suggestions? Requests?

Coming soon:
Banshee
Deathbringer
Jahi
Plaguespewer
Bleakborn
Skulking Cyst
Slaymate
Wheep
Atropal
Blaspheme
Nightshade
Allip
Visage
Famine Spirit
Effigy
Blood amniote
Vasuthant
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 11-07-2010 at 07:11 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 07:17 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Reserved for future use #2
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-22-2010 at 07:18 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 07:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #3
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Reserved #3
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 08:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
Qwertystop
Troll in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Why don't you try some non-negative ones? You know, like someone modified by positive energy in the womb? It's important to remember that "Negative energy" does not mean "Evil", nor does "Positive Energy" mean "Good". Not sure what they would have though.
Qwertystop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 08:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by master256 View Post
Why don't you try some non-negative ones? You know, like someone modified by positive energy in the womb? It's important to remember that "Negative energy" does not mean "Evil", nor does "Positive Energy" mean "Good". Not sure what they would have though.
They're actually based more on "Undead" than "Evil" and they can easily be played as good guys, of course. I was going for an "Antihero" feel with these races.

In other news, now posting Banshee version: Shriekborn

Edit: ChumpLump is gone for the weekend, so I'm going to belay posting any more until he gets back. For now, I need some balance opinions, if anyone would like to give them.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-22-2010 at 08:45 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 11:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #6
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Do the Paleborn have the dead born subtype?

I like the Shriekborn, and I would like to know why you choose the stunt plant growth ability. Its a very interesting choice, very flavorful. Do actual Banshees have it (don't have my books, so I don't know at the moment)?

EDIT: I went back and read the Paleborn thread. Never mind about the first question.
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-22-2010 at 11:39 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2010, 11:52 PM   Top  -  End  -  #7
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
Do the Paleborn have the dead born subtype?

I like the Shriekborn, and I would like to know why you choose the stunt plant growth ability. Its a very interesting choice, very flavorful. Do actual Banshees have it (don't have my books, so I don't know at the moment)?

EDIT: I went back and read the Paleborn thread. Never mind about the first question.
I can always count on you LOTRfan. I was beginning to wonder if anyone would notice this thread.

In answer to your second question, yeah. Banshees are most famous for their terrible screams, but they also blight the landscape in their area. They can do the exact same thing the Shriekborn can, only they can do it 3 times a day.

Edit: Master256, I just remembered you were the one who was going to use the paleborn. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-22-2010 at 11:59 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2010, 02:24 PM   Top  -  End  -  #8
ChumpLump
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 
On the wicked stage
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Good fluff on the Shriekborn,
Like the races. When I get done with Night-Toched PrCs I'll see if I can't get any love for the Shriekborn and Ghoulborn. (I'm thinking Bardlike and Roguelike respectively.)

Ghoulborn's feeding ability is great.

Like the way Wail improves with level

Oh, and I'm back.
__________________
Thanks to PersonalSavior for the resplendent Monk and Eyes Avatar.
I play Legend.
My D&D 3.5 Homebrew.
ChumpLump is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 08:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #9
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Bred to be Dead, the Deadstock are up.

More to come soon
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 08:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #10
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

I like the flavor, especially the easier to raise thing. Powerful Build is LA +1. What book is the death bringer from?
Come to think of this, I might use them as an antagonist slave race in one of my campaigns. Thanks!
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-24-2010 at 08:43 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 08:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #11
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
I like the flavor, especially the easier to raise thing. Powerful Build is LA +1. What book is the death bringer from?
Oh, that's right... crap... I'll fix it...

Banshee, Deathbringer, Jahi, and Plaguespewer are from MM2. The others are from Libris Mortis.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
Come to think of this, I might use them as an antagonist slave race in one of my campaigns. Thanks!
Again, I'm always happy to hear this.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-24-2010 at 08:45 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 08:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #12
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Oh. Now I'll have to start researching these creatures, so I can have some sort of clue about why these creatures have what.

Pretty good so far, I love them. Very creepy backstory.

EDIT: Aren't spell-like abilities above 0th level +1 LA?
EDIT 2: Never mind, Aasimar gets a 3rd level spell-like ability combined with the outsider type, so this is okay.
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-24-2010 at 09:02 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 09:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Jahira, a Jahi's desires made flesh... is now up.

Edit: Plague spewer is in MM3, my bad.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-24-2010 at 10:05 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 11:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #14
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Disgusting to behold, the Spewspawn are up.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 01:06 AM   Top  -  End  -  #15
ChumpLump
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 
On the wicked stage
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Its early in the day over here, but here are some thoughts.

Deadborn subtype is solid, more likely to suffer for their subtype than benefit from it, which is good for out purposes.

Deadstock: In general, I hate LA, and would prefer to see the Deadstock be LA+0, but I think Powerful Build is the right direction to go. I don't have my books at school, but I think race related drawbacks to balance the PB would be ideal.

Jahira: They do need more, I propose a gnomish like bonus to Enchantment school spells, for DCs and saves. That or something related to race (again, books would be good.)

Spewspawn: I think Outright Immunity to diseases is a bit much, but a retroactive gained immunity would be good. Also, maybe a contagion spell could function as a Cure Wounds spell?

And as always the fluff is great.
__________________
Thanks to PersonalSavior for the resplendent Monk and Eyes Avatar.
I play Legend.
My D&D 3.5 Homebrew.
ChumpLump is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 05:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #16
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Yeah, the Jahira is missing something, but I don't no what. So yeah, I'm not a big help there.

I like the Spewspawn, but immunity to disease is rather powerful. How immunity to mundane diseases and a +2 to magical ones?

As for the carrier ability, how does it deliver the diseases (I assume that they are still contagious)? A touch attack? Is the target randomly affected by one of its diseases, or can the Spewspawn choose a specific disease?
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-25-2010 at 05:08 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 06:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #17
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
Yeah, the Jahira is missing something, but I don't no what. So yeah, I'm not a big help there.

That's ok, ChumpLump gave me some good ideas earlier. I'll put them in shortly.

I like the Spewspawn, but immunity to disease is rather powerful. How immunity to mundane diseases and a +2 to magical ones?

I thought "Hey, warforged is immune. Plus its not that big of a benefit really, it wont come up often." Thinking about it now though, it might be a better idea to just make this apply to mundane diseases. Wouldnt want them spreading mummy rot around...

As for the carrier ability, how does it deliver the diseases (I assume that they are still contagious)? A touch attack? Is the target randomly affected by one of its diseases, or can the Spewspawn choose a specific disease?
They're carried and spread as if the spewspawn wasnt immune, just like any other person carrying a disease.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 06:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #18
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

There are rules for that? Cool, I'll go check the srd.

EDIT: D'oh, its right there in the disease stat blocks.
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-25-2010 at 06:48 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 07:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #19
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
There are rules for that? Cool, I'll go check the srd.

EDIT: D'oh, its right there in the disease stat blocks.
lol.

Changes have been made.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 08:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #20
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

There might be some momentary discomfort...
Bleaktouched are up.


Now I get to do the Really fun ones... mwa ha ha....


Missed this earlier:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpLump View Post
Its early in the day over here, but here are some thoughts.

Deadborn subtype is solid, more likely to suffer for their subtype than benefit from it, which is good for our purposes.

I was thinking the same thing

Deadstock: In general, I hate LA, and would prefer to see the Deadstock be LA+0, but I think Powerful Build is the right direction to go. I don't have my books at school, but I think race related drawbacks to balance the PB would be ideal.

I'm right there with you, but on a martial race like these, I can live with it. I've seen Powerful Build characters do hideous hideous things.

Jahira: They do need more, I propose a gnomish like bonus to Enchantment school spells, for DCs and saves. That or something related to race (again, books would be good.)

Got it

Spewspawn: I think Outright Immunity to diseases is a bit much, but a retroactive gained immunity would be good. Also, maybe a contagion spell could function as a Cure Wounds spell?

I based it on the Cancer Mage ability, I just reworded some things. It's been changed now though

And as always the fluff is great.
Thanks, I try to keep these interesting. I hate it when people make stat-blocks instead of characters.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-25-2010 at 08:51 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2010, 10:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #21
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

I know its still two races ahead, but do you have any ideas for the Slaymate race?
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 01:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #22
ChumpLump
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 
On the wicked stage
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Love the Jahira special abilities.

As for the Spewspawn, why not give it a bite attack, even if it could only be used as a secondary natural attack, it gives it a fair chance of spreading it's diseases... or alternatively have it's spewed rats also carry the disease, they were after all....vomited from it's stomach...or somewhere profane.

Bleak-Touched. Yes cold weakness is a good way to go for an immunity/Healing energy type. I see a PrC that can uses cold damage to deliver sneak attacks that numb its targets...
__________________
Thanks to PersonalSavior for the resplendent Monk and Eyes Avatar.
I play Legend.
My D&D 3.5 Homebrew.
ChumpLump is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 07:23 AM   Top  -  End  -  #23
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
I know its still two races ahead, but do you have any ideas for the Slaymate race?
Yes... heh heh. I've been looking forward to that one... but I might need some more input. I'll get it this afternoon, probably.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpLump View Post
Love the Jahira special abilities.

Cool, I wasn't sure if they were too powerful.

As for the Spewspawn, why not give it a bite attack, even if it could only be used as a secondary natural attack, it gives it a fair chance of spreading it's diseases... or alternatively have it's spewed rats also carry the disease, they were after all....vomited from it's stomach...or somewhere profane.

Well, the rats already carry filth fever. A bite attack would spread the disease, but not in combat. You'd have to wait for the incubation period to expire like any other disease. Hmm... I'll think about this. So far I like it, but I'm half asleep right now.

Bleak-Touched. Yes cold weakness is a good way to go for an immunity/Healing energy type. I see a PrC that can uses cold damage to deliver sneak attacks that numb its targets...
And this is why I reserved so much space after the first post. That sounds like an excellent idea.

I was also thinking racial substitution levels for Deadstock Dread Necromancers, who get cool things for fighting their racial deficiencies to be one. Like getting to use negative energy burst at a range like Deathbringers can essentially do. Might even consider turning Charnal Touch into Charnal Punch or something similar, granting them a slam attack that also deals negative energy damage. If I want to really be called crazy, I might let them use their Str instead of their Cha for spells and class features, their power being drawn from their necrotically-enhanced bodies. What do you think?
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-26-2010 at 07:27 AM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 06:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #24
SurlySeraph
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: 
Department of Smiting
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Krau Sigil Illumians use Strength for their bonus spells rather than a mental stat, so there's precedent for it. Of course, this can be broken with some effort, especially in gestalt (Wizard// War Hulk!), but it's not crazy to allow.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespianus View Post
I fail to see how "No, that guy is too fat to be hurt by your fire" would make sense.
Office Seraph avatar by Oregano
SurlySeraph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 07:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #25
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SurlySeraph View Post
Krau Sigil Illumians use Strength for their bonus spells rather than a mental stat, so there's precedent for it. Of course, this can be broken with some effort, especially in gestalt (Wizard// War Hulk!), but it's not crazy to allow.
Har Hulk... Does anyone actually allow that in PC hands?

Thanks for the info about the precedent. It always makes me feel better when I can cite a precedent on this sort of thing.

Oh, and an introduction...

Lurking in the dark places, feeding on your fears as much as your blood...
The Cystics are up, and kind of gross.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 07:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #26
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

This one is disgusting.

Anyway, now that the squick factor has worn off, I think that energy draining might deserve an LA (I'm not sure though, because all the creatures with LA that have this also have a ton of other things that give it a lot of LA).

Also, slight editing error: The intestines should cause Cystic spell casters to not be able to cast spells with verbal components, not somatic ones.
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 08:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #27
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
This one is disgusting.

Glad to hear it!

Anyway, now that the squick factor has worn off, I think that energy draining might deserve an LA (I'm not sure though, because all the creatures with LA that have this also have a ton of other things that give it a lot of LA).

I wasnt sure either. I dont think it'll be a huge thing though, since these guys loose their dex to AC while doing it. It was more designed to be used against downed opponents. That's why I wasnt sure if Healing or Temp HP was the way to go.

Also, slight editing error: The intestines should cause Cystic spell casters to not be able to cast spells with verbal components, not somatic ones.
Good catch. Fixed.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 08:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #28
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

I don't know. I'm leaning towards healing if it is an after-combat thing, but I'm sure someone would find a way to turn it into uberhealer monster....

Anyway, what caster level is necrotic cyst, and is the intestine sunderable?

EDIT: Oh, and Jahira looks better.
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!

Last edited by LOTRfan : 10-26-2010 at 08:22 PM.
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 08:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #29
Jarrick
Barbarian in the Playground
 
NecromancerGuy
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 
City of Stormreach
Gender: Male
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOTRfan View Post
I don't know. I'm leaning towards healing if it is an after-combat thing, but I'm sure someone would find a way to turn it into uberhealer monster....

I shall think on this...

Anyway, what caster level is necrotic cyst, and is the intestine sunderable?

CL is equal to HD and no, it's treated as part of the Cystic's body, hence the No Dex thing. At least that's what I assume their intent was with the Skulking Cyst.

EDIT: Oh, and Jahira looks better.
Cool. I was afraid I'd given them too much.

Edit: Oh, and I added in that a Spewspawn's Rat swarm carries any diseases that the spewspawn does.
__________________
Quote:
"To play a fighter is to play the game.
To play a wizard is to understand the rules.
To understand the rules, and play a fighter, is to understand the game."
-Lycar
My Homebrew

Last edited by Jarrick : 10-26-2010 at 08:27 PM.
Jarrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2010, 08:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #30
LOTRfan
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default Re: Tainted by Undeath: The Deadborn [3.5 races, PEACH]

Let me rephrase the question: what level would you have to be to cast the spell as a wizard/dread necromancer/whatever?
__________________
Extended Homebrew Signature

Let's Read the Monster Manual II!

Dwarf Cleric avatar by azuyomi244. Thanks!

Saurial Soulknife avatar by Serpentine. Thanks!

Warforged Fighter Avatar by C-Lam. Thanks!
LOTRfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Usage of this site, including but not limited to making or editing a post or private message or the creation of an account, constitutes acceptance of the Forum Rules.