Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XXXIV - "Go Go Power Lanterns!"

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Edit: interestingly, the only real guild in the fallout world was the Slavers Guild, because it was the only one that was relatively global.

Only one guild? Blasphemy! As soon as I get back to my PS3 I will start my own guild of People Who Should Statistically Be Dead Six Times This Month Alone!

Also, what level do we want the tech in our schizotech (Though it's more off a tent-tech situation) to be? Modern day? Renaissance? Futuristic? 1920s? Neither?

[Goblin Scribe]

Originally Posted by Keveak

Only one guild? Blasphemy! As soon as I get back to my PS3 I will start my own guild of People Who Should Statistically Be Dead Six Times This Month Alone!

Also, what level do we want the tech in our schizotech (Though it's more off a tent-tech situation) to be? Modern day? Renaissance? Futuristic? 1920s? Neither?

Steampunk. Like a mixture of Schizotek and Lockutas.
And I agree, races can't stand for the character. But races are fun, too, to make and to play. As for classes....well, that's not really applicable here.

[Darklord Bright]

Originally Posted by Keveak

Only one guild? Blasphemy! As soon as I get back to my PS3 I will start my own guild of People Who Should Statistically Be Dead Six Times This Month Alone!

Also, what level do we want the tech in our schizotech (Though it's more off a tent-tech situation) to be? Modern day? Renaissance? Futuristic? 1920s? Neither?

Well, I'm pretty sure that as far as tech goes, we'd probably have mostly modern guns and makeshift melee weapons, though it's up to you guys if you'd want the odd laser in there was well. They probably wouldn't be very efficient as weapons, though, since you'd need energy to use them and there's not a lot of that.

Guns in general I'd figure would be around, but used sparingly due to conservation of ammo, so the most common weapons would probably be baseball bats, planks, crowbars, sledgehammers... maybe some crazies who fletch their own hunting bow-and-arrows. No swords or anything like that though, unless you can come up with a good reason why someone would have them (like they raided a museum or something, which is possible).

Most clothes and armour would probably be stitched patchwork, with the odd flak jacket or clothes made of hides of mutated animals. I think in general the tech is low, but still has obvious hints of a modern or post-modern society like in clothes people find and the crumbling buildings and such. People would still wear a lot of the leftover clothes like jackets and things too, especially if it was a permanent winter and they needed to keep warm.

There might be scraps of military who still managed to keep weapons and bullets in production, maybe even vehicles, but I would imagine fuel is hard to come by.

Does that work?

[HalfTangible]

Maybe we could have guilds or civ remnants which have various levels of technology?

[Darklord Bright]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

Maybe we could have guilds or civ remnants which have various levels of technology?

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

There might be scraps of military who still managed to keep weapons and bullets in production, maybe even vehicles, but I would imagine fuel is hard to come by.
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As well as that, I figure there might be the odd small group with a little bit of tech, but I guarantee you it'd be hard to justify many non-military groups having anything but random tech in their possession. A building or two will probably work, but with the world being kinda destroyed and all, most things would need generators to keep power, and generators need fuel.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Well, I'm pretty sure that as far as tech goes, we'd probably have mostly modern guns and makeshift melee weapons, though it's up to you guys if you'd want the odd laser in there was well. They probably wouldn't be very efficient as weapons, though, since you'd need energy to use them and there's not a lot of that.

Guns in general I'd figure would be around, but used sparingly due to conservation of ammo, so the most common weapons would probably be baseball bats, planks, crowbars, sledgehammers... maybe some crazies who fletch their own hunting bow-and-arrows. No swords or anything like that though, unless you can come up with a good reason why someone would have them (like they raided a museum or something, which is possible).

Most clothes and armour would probably be stitched patchwork, with the odd flak jacket or clothes made of hides of mutated animals. I think in general the tech is low, but still has obvious hints of a modern or post-modern society like in clothes people find and the crumbling buildings and such. People would still wear a lot of the leftover clothes like jackets and things too, especially if it was a permanent winter and they needed to keep warm.

There might be scraps of military who still managed to keep weapons and bullets in production, maybe even vehicles, but I would imagine fuel is hard to come by.

Does that work?

Well I was thinking about having my character be the raving mad conspiracy nut with a steampunk (What? Coal and wood is easier to 'acquire' than gasoline) Laboratory/Library from where some frightful souls claim lightning is created.

Does that fit in le grande scheme or is it too ridiculously out there with the jellyfish?

[Darklord Bright]

Originally Posted by Keveak

Well I was thinking about having my character be the raving mad conspiracy nut with a steampunk (What? Coal and wood is easier to 'acquire' than gasoline) Laboratory/Library from where some frightful souls claim lightning is created.

Does that fit in le grande scheme or is it too ridiculously out there with the jellyfish?

Well, it's pretty much nothing like what I've been pitching... I mean, it's not that I want to say "NO YOU CANT DO THAT " but like, currently I'm talking about a world where pretty much the entire country is essentially a sparse scrapyard covered in snow with shanty-towns and raiders (at least, in effect it is) and you're saying you want a steam-powered laboratory that creates lightning. It's a little... out there.

Edit: Mind you, as I'm saying this, I'm alt-tabbing back into Fallout 2 and stabbing scorpions with a spear in an abandoned temple.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Well, it's pretty much nothing like what I've been pitching... I mean, it's not that I want to say "NO YOU CANT DO THAT " but like, currently I'm talking about a world where pretty much the entire country is essentially a sparse scrapyard covered in snow with shanty-towns and raiders (at least, in effect it is) and you're saying you want a steam-powered laboratory that creates lightning. It's a little... out there.

Not really supposed to take the lightning part seriously (hence why it was frightful souls and not the much more rational crazy scavengers) but I see what you mean.

What if his greatest achievement in the technological sector consists of a light bulb powered by a steam engine? With his 'base' being little more than a makeshift forge and anvil?

[Darklord Bright]

Originally Posted by Keveak

Not really supposed to take the lightning part seriously (hence why it was frightful souls and not the much more rational crazy scavengers) but I see what you mean.

What if his greatest achievement in the technological sector consists of a light bulb powered by a steam engine? With his 'base' being little more than a makeshift forge and anvil?

Oh, I wouldn't at all be opposed to a guy who was trying to, in effect, get technology up and running again through a series of overcomplicated and probably more-trouble-than-they're-worth inventions and doodads. That'd be kinda funny. Especially if his greatest achievement was a steam-powered machine which works through gears, pulleys, and a coal-fire that towers above him, all just to power his little shack or something.

"What are you talking about? My machines aren't 'huge piles of junk', they're amazing achievements of technology and science!"

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Oh, I wouldn't at all be opposed to a guy who was trying to, in effect, get technology up and running again through a series of overcomplicated and probably more-trouble-than-they're-worth inventions and doodads. That'd be kinda funny. Especially if his greatest achievement was a steam-powered machine which works through gears, pulleys, and a coal-fire that towers above him, all just to power his little shack or something.

"What are you talking about? My machines aren't 'huge piles of junk', they're amazing achievements of technology and science!"

That is even better! I can't believe I thought of such a genius idea!

Maybe a Doc Brown-esque refrigerator, a suit of armour that serves as the tea-maker. Yes, I see potential with this idea >:)

Where he gets the coal will forever remain a mystery, though

[Darklord Bright]

Originally Posted by Keveak

That is even better! I can't believe I thought of such a genius idea!

Maybe a Doc Brown-esque refrigerator, a suit of armour that serves as the tea-maker. Yes, I see potential with this idea >:)

Where he gets the coal will forever remain a mystery, though

I have a feeling even the nutjobs in the world would think he was a loon

Sounds like fun!

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

I have a feeling even the nutjobs in the world would think he was a loon

Sounds like fun!

"A loon!? I am no simple fool but a man of science and reason, but if you'll excuse me I have to get back to my peanut-butter powered spring-machine"

This will indeed be much fun

[Goblin Scribe]

Originally Posted by Keveak

"A loon!? I am no simple fool but a man of science and reason, but if you'll excuse me I have to get back to my peanut-butter powered spring-machine"

This will indeed be much fun

Can I be your bumbling goblin assistant?

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Oh, I wouldn't at all be opposed to a guy who was trying to, in effect, get technology up and running again through a series of overcomplicated and probably more-trouble-than-they're-worth inventions and doodads. That'd be kinda funny. Especially if his greatest achievement was a steam-powered machine which works through gears, pulleys, and a coal-fire that towers above him, all just to power his little shack or something.

"What are you talking about? My machines aren't 'huge piles of junk', they're amazing achievements of technology and science!"

"You made a giant refrigerator slash calculator with buttons too big to press! That's not amazing, that's just stupid!"

[Bradakhan]

Sounds like the beginning of an interesting plot. My idea for a character would be a radio presenter trying to broadcast the news through the wastelands. He would have taken over small radio station, although it would have a short range. (Of course, he wouldn't know that )

Also, how did we survive the nuclear war? (or whatever other hazards happened) Would it be living in Fallout-esque vaults, or are we just lucky?

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Goblin Scribe

Can I be your bumbling goblin assistant?

We have goblins now?

Originally Posted by Bradakhan

Also, how did we survive the nuclear war? (or whatever other hazards happened) Would it be living in Fallout-esque vaults, or are we just lucky?

"Let's just say that tinfoil has more uses than you'd think and leave it at that."

Jut kidding, I suspect that the survivors where just lucky enough to live far enough down the hitlist and lucky enough to find a safe spot (The deserts, the secret facilities beneath mount Dashmore, New Jersey) where the bombs didn't hit.

[Goblin Scribe]

Originally Posted by Keveak

We have goblins now?



"Let's just say that tinfoil has more uses than you'd think and leave it at that."

Jut kidding, I suspect that the survivors where just lucky enough to live far enough down the hitlist and lucky enough to find a safe spot (The deserts, the secret facilities beneath mount Dashmore, New Jersey) where the bombs didn't hit.

I thought it was fantasy. Are we following the Fallout thing that closely?

[GrlumpTheElder]

I like this idea alot - I actually think that if we made it just Human rather than all the fantasy creatures it could be much more poignent - although possibly more clichéd...

Oh look, I made a character for it - No idea about name yet or back story, but I can work on that...

[Goblin Scribe]

Originally Posted by GrlumpTheElder

I like this idea alot - I actually think that if we made it just Human rather than all the fantasy creatures it could be much more poignent - although possibly more clichéd...

Oh look, I made a character for it - No idea about name yet or back story, but I can work on that...

I rather think races can add flavour if used right. Also, I make it a point to play a goblin wherever I go, because it's my opinion goblins give something instant awesome.

And yeah, I thought it'd be cool to have a magic apocolypse. If we aren't doing fantasy in this plot, I may not participate. That's not meant as a threat to make DL go along with it, though. It's just that I have no idea how to play in a non-fantasy.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Goblin Scribe

I rather think races can add flavour if used right. Also, I make it a point to play a goblin wherever I go, because it's my opinion goblins give something instant awesome.

And yeah, I thought it'd be cool to have a magic apocolypse. If we aren't doing fantasy in this plot, I may not participate. That's not meant as a threat to make DL go along with it, though. It's just that I have no idea how to play in a non-fantasy.

Scifi is just like fantasy, only instead of 'a wizard did it' it's 'newmetaltanium did it'

EDIT: Seriously though. I'd prefer it to be either scifi or fantasy. If i wanted everything to be realistic, i would turn off my computer and go outside.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Goblin Scribe

I thought it was fantasy. Are we following the Fallout thing that closely?

I don't think it was specifically Fallout based when this conversation took place

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we already decided the basic idea of the setting, at least if people would be into a Nuclear Winter setting which focusses on most of the people in the world having gone at least a little kooky from surviving in the post-apocalyptic tundra.

Plus, I don't really want magic and stuff because I'd rather we have at least one non-fantasy plot, and I don't think we ever restricted people to DnD classes anyways. As far as 'races', I'd say normal human races and maybe allow some leeway for mutants.
I'd also say we set this in a world similar to earth but not earth, or at least never specify where anything is or anything about the world before the nukes.

Originally Posted by Goblin Scribe

The answers to all of them were no, though. I'm asking if they should be yes, if that makes the sensiness.

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

I've already covered the answers. I've given the very bare idea, now it needs to be expanded upon. I always believe that groups and characters should be characterized beyond 'classes' and 'races' (hence why I typically frown upon setting which are fantasy kitchen sinks when it comes to races).

Kinda makes me wonder if my reading of every single post is overdoing it.

Especially since I do it for about ten FFRPGs as well...

[Darklord Bright]

I'm going to try and make an intro comic or two just to set the scene so we can expand further, but you have no idea how hard it is to avoid starting with "War. War never changes."

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

I'm going to try and make an intro comic or two just to set the scene so we can expand further, but you have no idea how hard it is to avoid starting with "War. War never changes."

What about a season analogy?

"Winter always come. you can pretend that summer lasts forever but in the end, the old fades away and the earth will be bare of life"

Or some other quasi-poetic nonsense to make the fact that we screwed up big time sound better

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

I'm going to try and make an intro comic or two just to set the scene so we can expand further, but you have no idea how hard it is to avoid starting with "War. War never changes."

Originally Posted by Keveak

What about a season analogy?

"Winter always come. you can pretend that summer lasts forever but in the end, the old fades away and the earth will be bare of life"

Or some other quasi-poetic nonsense to make the fact that we screwed up big time sound better

Every day, the sun rises. Every night, it falls.

Every morning, the sky turns bright.

The darkness returns each and every night.

They say it still rises far in the sky...

But we have not seen through these years of unrest.

Since our now-eternal winter said good-bye,

There is naught but cold darkness.



That's quasi-poetic =D it even rhymes a line or two!

[Darklord Bright]

Oh, no, I never said I was having trouble coming up with a narrative. I was just having to avoid starting with the Fallout line we all love so much.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

Oh, no, I never said I was having trouble coming up with a narrative. I was just having to avoid starting with the Fallout line we all love so much.

I don't =( i never played fallout. Starting to wish i had so i had a better idea what you were talking about beyond 'nuclear winter'.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

I don't =( i never played fallout. Starting to wish i had so i had a better idea what you were talking about beyond 'nuclear winter'.

And I've played Fallout 3, exactly once. I do know when it takes place, what the timeline differences are and why the giant naked mole rats make perfect sense. I like reading up on old games, amazes me how creative they were back then.

And now my quest continues to find more stuff to make people who actually played these games feel old!

[Darklord Bright]

I wouldn't call a game series released five years after my birth 'Old' when I'm only going to be 18 this month.

[Keveak]

Originally Posted by Darklord Bright

I wouldn't call a game series released five years after my birth 'Old' when I'm only going to be 18 this month.

Well, I was joking but I actually would call a game made five years after my birth 'Old' (capital letter and all )

But why is that a bad thing? 'Old' stuff is still around for a reason, it's very good old stuff :D

And just so I don't forget: Congratulations! Does that mean you can do exactly one more thing that you don't need more than last year?

[Darklord Bright]

Okay guys, here's the SUPAR SERIOUS INTRO. Though obviously each character will have their own level of serious, the world takes ITSELF seriously at least.

Spoiler

I'll post it in the thread soon.

Edit: Huh. Three hours to make that? Really?