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Old 11-08-2010, 10:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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...No, I don't know why this is so popular either.

Hi! Welcome to the fifth thread of Murphy's Law! As you can probably guess, I'm making an OOTS-style webcomic. It's comedic, yet with an ongoing, in-depth storyline. It starts out with a multiclass Fighter/Paladin named Lloyd Zephyr looking to organize an adventuring party, and quickly mushrooms from there into something much bigger...

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BONUS: Oh! In case you didn't know, I'm originally from the Crack Pairings Thread. So, I love it when people do crack pairings and stuff of this comic! In fact, I'll post it on here! Just make sure that it obeys board rules and the like, okay?

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I recall some people complaining that Lloyd was too perfect in the past and with the latest comics, I can't help but agree with them. A prodigy who's almost the only one in the entire Kago army to question the validity of slaughtering the Plavaan to the point of wanting to pray for them, in addition to advertizing himself as having an inborn thirst of justice?

If you don't give him some flaws in the future, don't be surprised if some people flag him as a sue. I don't think they'll settle for "he felt bad about it" for an acceptable flaw. That's actually closer to a virtue.
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Maybe he cheats at Rocks-Scissors-Papers...
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Maybe he cheats at Rocks-Scissors-Papers...
or he is hopeless at magic... or he did bad things in his past
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I recall some people complaining that Lloyd was too perfect in the past and with the latest comics, I can't help but agree with them. A prodigy who's almost the only one in the entire Kago army to question the validity of slaughtering the Plavaan to the point of wanting to pray for them, in addition to advertizing himself as having an inborn thirst of justice?

If you don't give him some flaws in the future, don't be surprised if some people flag him as a sue. I don't think they'll settle for "he felt bad about it" for an acceptable flaw. That's actually closer to a virtue.
Considering the accusation of "MURDERER!!!" I think we're about to see him make a really bad choice.
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I hope so, because mister always-does-the-right-thing has been annoying me for a long while. But I expect him to feel bad about whatever he'll do which isn't that much of a genuine flaw.
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There's the note that a Sue is not an inherently bad character, but is typically one used by bad writer. A well-written "Sue" is just as good as a normal character.

I think it's just a shame that Mary Sue, as a term, had degraded as far as it has.
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I agree. A well-written cliché, for example, is often better than a poorly-written new idea.

I'm not calling him a sue, though I wouldn't be surprised if other people did. I'm calling him boring. Not unlike O-Chul, who can't do anything wrong ever.

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Not unlike O-Chul, who can't do anything wrong ever.
While technically true, since O-Chul is never wrong, this statement constitutes treading thin ice, I'm afraid - there is nothing O-Chul can't do.

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Considering the accusation of "MURDERER!!!" I think we're about to see him make a really bad choice.
+1 to that.

(Plus, first time on the thread, so I'll just get it out there: Awesome comic. )

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Uh, if there's a mod watching, could you post in the last thread with a link? I only saw this one existed through sheer, utter good luck.
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I hope so, because mister always-does-the-right-thing has been annoying me for a long while. But I expect him to feel bad about whatever he'll do which isn't that much of a genuine flaw.
I'm not sure I follow that last bit. If you commit a serious enough crime, "feeling bad about it" doesn't begin to erase the black mark on your character.
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I hope so, because mister always-does-the-right-thing has been annoying me for a long while. But I expect him to feel bad about whatever he'll do which isn't that much of a genuine flaw.
I understand what you're thinking, but you don't know the whole story. And he wasn't the one questioning it; the High Priest was explaining it to everyone. And Lloyd's not the only one to question what's going on, but he is the protagonist. Of course we're going to be focusing on him. Besides, he's spend a lot of his military career in private training.

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I'm not sure I follow that last bit. If you commit a serious enough crime, "feeling bad about it" doesn't begin to erase the black mark on your character.
Mucat's got it. From both their points of view, nothing Lloyd does will ever be able to make up for it. Some things really are unforgivable.

Also, as we've seen, Lloyd is secretive and has a massive guilt complex. He's actually a bit of a Stepford Smiler if you think about it.

And yes, please post a link. (If it's possible, could you please modify my first post in the old thread to include the new link too? Thanks.)
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Hmm...personally, when I read the comic for the first time, I found Lloyd's character to be a little plain. I had read the story in slight hurry, since I wanted to know what would happen next.

Then I read the strips again, paying more attention to details, and started noticing these small hints about our perfect paladins past and the assumed skeletons in his closet. Now, he's my second favourite character (though Tinder's fighting with him over the position).

...And I've noticed that he's most fun to draw of the characters. I have no idea why, he just is.

Speaking of which, Coffeee, why are not the coloured versions of 'Watchful' in the fanart list? Do they not deserve to be there?
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Hmm...personally, when I read the comic for the first time, I found Lloyd's character to be a little plain. I had read the story in slight hurry, since I wanted to know what would happen next.

Then I read the strips again, paying more attention to details, and started noticing these small hints about our perfect paladins past and the assumed skeletons in his closet. Now, he's my second favourite character (though Tinder's fighting with him over the position).

...And I've noticed that he's most fun to draw of the characters. I have no idea why, he just is.

Speaking of which, Coffeee, why are not the coloured versions of 'Watchful' in the fanart list? Do they not deserve to be there?
Thanks, CWater. And like I said, there's more to his character. You'll just have to wait to see all of it. And crap, I'm sorry. Could you please repost them so I can put them up?

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Thanks, CWater. And like I said, there's more to his character. You'll just have to wait to see all of it. And crap, I'm sorry. Could you please repost them so I can put them up?
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Yay! But don't miss anything important over it, as eager as we readers are, we are also patient. ... ...
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He no fair you started the 5th thread without me... T^T.... just luck I was browsing the general forum section and saw Murpy's Law 5.

Either way I don't see why all the problem with Loyd, I have always liked him, and I hope his dark past TM. should redempt him in the eyes of the ub-blievers.

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Say... Coffee would a character popularity poll be unwaranted? just a thought.
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Yay! But don't miss anything important over it, as eager as we readers are, we are also patient. ... ...
Thanks. I'll add your stuff with the update tomorrow.

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He no fair you started the 5th thread without me... T^T.... just luck I was browsing the general forum section and saw Murpy's Law 5.

Either way I don't see why all the problem with Loyd, I have always liked him, and I hope his dark past TM. should redempt him in the eyes of the ub-blievers.

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Ok, with the god author permission, Ladies and Gentlemen I present you the first (to the best of my knowledge) Murphy's Law Character popularity poll! :cheers, applauses, whistling:

Ok so here are the rules, every poster get 3 votes, for his favorite character, I will record them on this post and in a weeks time (November 13) we end the poll.

So vote!!!

My votes are

1-Radic
2-Loyd
3-Serrin

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Radic 2
Loyd 3
Serrin 9
Tinder 5.5
Roark 2
Hector 1
Matt 4 .5
Iris 2
Saphrin 3
Lucrid 1
Fir 1
Halfling with sickle from today's comic 1
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1. loyd
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BTW does anybody knows how to make one of those neat-looking tables? the ones I use in my homebrew are just copy-pasted, and I have never really got the hang of making them from scratch.
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link http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10313
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It is for the poll results I swear.
I wanted to know how to make a table to have a neat looking result page for the polls.
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Sorry about that then. Did it help?
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For the poll:
1. Tinder
2. Serrin (they are tied really)
3. That pair that keep popping up (just need to edit in their names)Have they ever said each other's names actually? Hector(halfling) and Roark(orc).
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Cool, new thread. Anyway, I'm voting for Serrin, Matt, and Iris (if she is a choice).
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Pretty close tie between Matt, Tinder, and Serrin. Probably in that order, if I were forced to choose. I like Rogues, so Matt automatically gets a boost, plus he's a funny character with promise of character growth. Tinder is a frickin' dragon with a kickin' backstory. And Serrin is... Serrin.
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