Erfworld, The Thread.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll

That evil-plan requires for her to capture heirs though, which I don't think is ALL that likely an occurance...

.... what evil plan?

[The Glyphstone]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

.... what evil plan?

Control the entirety of Erf by proxy, presumably.

[Mando Knight]

Originally Posted by Fjolnir

The Native boards are assuming that The Wizard is charlie and either Judy (btw kudos to Xin for the truly horrifying erfed Judy Garland) or Charlie or possibly both are from Stupidworld or some other place similarly...

I was suspecting Charlie was a Stupidworlder for a long time... back before the end of the battle for Gobwin Knob, I think. He seemed to be a bit more aware of the references than other Erfworlders, and was more concerned about Parson's existence as well.

[Miklus]

I just read about Judy Garland on Wikipedia:

"To keep up with the frantic pace of making one film after another, Garland, Rooney, and other young performers were constantly given amphetamines as well as barbiturates to take before going to bed. For Garland, this regular dose of drugs led to addiction and a lifelong struggle and contributed to her eventual demise."

Thanks a lot, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer!

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Miklus

I just read about Judy Garland on Wikipedia:

"To keep up with the frantic pace of making one film after another, Garland, Rooney, and other young performers were constantly given amphetamines as well as barbiturates to take before going to bed. For Garland, this regular dose of drugs led to addiction and a lifelong struggle and contributed to her eventual demise."

Thanks a lot, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer!

...I guess that explains the retconjuration. Doesn't really explain why it started as Dorothy, but whatever

[HandofShadows]

New page up!

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Battle is hot and heavy. And the case is being made to let Parson through.

[Morty]

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An epiphany, eh? Charlie must have told him about the new plan that requires Parson to be let through.

[ThirdEmperor]

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Or maybe the Carnymancer's planning to fudge the rules a little and make sure Parson can't get through the portal. Or does get through, but not to Jetstone....

I wonder if Charlescomm has a portal?

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by ThirdEmperor

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Or maybe the Carnymancer's planning to fudge the rules a little and make sure Parson can't get through the portal. Or does get through, but not to Jetstone....

I wonder if Charlescomm has a portal?

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Charlescomm is a capital site and has hired casters in the past so yes, it has a portal

[MReav]

Why do we put everything in spoilers?

[The Glyphstone]

Originally Posted by MReav

Why do we put everything in spoilers?

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Because some people haven't read the comic yet, I guess?

It usually stops after a few days.

[Killer Angel]

JoJo, probably it will work, but you're not credible.

[guttering flame]

Originally Posted by Killer Angel

JoJo, probably it will work, but you're not credible.

He's working the angle that they'll assume he has a scheme for defeating Parson and therefore will blindly trust him to do that for them. In fact that's not all that far from the truth.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by guttering flame

He's working the angle that they'll assume he has a scheme for defeating Parson and therefore will blindly trust him to do that for them. In fact that's not all that far from the truth.

Well, that will certainly be the reaction of JoJo's "allies"... are the ones on the other side of the barricade, that should be wary about such a display of sudden change of attitude.

[Landis963]

New Inner Peace page:

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Dame Branch is talking out her keister, as is Jillian. Also, Branch doesn't like being proved wrong. Of course, she's only wrong because Jillian got the word out early, leading them to go on the attack.

[Killer Angel]

Every time dame Branch is involved, my reaction is "burn her! burn her and her gardens with FIRE!"
Kudos to Rob, I suppose...

[HandofShadows]

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Some people call Wanda a monster. Compared to Olive she is a near paragon of virtue. I hope Olive get what is coming to her VERY soon.

On another note, how old are some of theses characters? Some of them muts be ancient by Erfworld standards. I mean Wanda is older than the side Stanley is from. And Janice is older than her.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by HandofShadows

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Some people call Wanda a monster. Compared to Olive she is a near paragon of virtue. I hope Olive get what is coming to her VERY soon.

On another note, how old are some of theses characters? Some of them muts be ancient by Erfworld standards. I mean Wanda is older than the side Stanley is from. And Janice is older than her.

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The oldest person whose age we know of in erfworld is a little more than a thousand turns old, and a turn lasts a day. So... 3 or 4 years old.

Nobody in Erfworld is 'ancient'. Even the long-lived die long before they could be considered 'ancient' for our world.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

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The oldest person whose age we know of in erfworld is a little more than a thousand turns old, and a turn lasts a day. So... 3 or 4 years old.

Nobody in Erfworld is 'ancient'. Even the long-lived die long before they could be considered 'ancient' for our world.

There's also the fact that units pop already "adult".

[guttering flame]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

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The oldest person whose age we know of in erfworld is a little more than a thousand turns old, and a turn lasts a day. So... 3 or 4 years old.

Nobody in Erfworld is 'ancient'. Even the long-lived die long before they could be considered 'ancient' for our world.

Who is this oldest person? Wanda? The blue wizard of Oz aka Charlie?

[Thalnawr]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

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The oldest person whose age we know of in erfworld is a little more than a thousand turns old, and a turn lasts a day. So... 3 or 4 years old.

Nobody in Erfworld is 'ancient'. Even the long-lived die long before they could be considered 'ancient' for our world.

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Actually, after digging out my print copy of "It's Raining Men", it seems that so far the oldest living Erfworld unit is Roger Victor Clarence (the one who looks like US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas) of the Great Minds that Think Alike at a lofty age of 28,800 turns and Level 10. If a turn is considered to be equal to a day's time, that'd put him at around 78 years old. Obviously, there could be someone else in the story that is older, but their age has yet to be mentioned.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Killer Angel

There's also the fact that units pop already "adult".

As far as the story as shown us, physical age has little to do with chronological age in this world anyway.

Originally Posted by guttering flame

Who is this oldest person? Wanda? The blue wizard of Oz aka Charlie?

Either Slately or Don, I can't remember which

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

As far as the story as shown us, physical age has little to do with chronological age in this world anyway.

My point is that adult humans don't have memories (only fragments) of their very first years, while erfworld units don't have any childhood, so if we convert turn in days and in "years equivalent", those are "fully" years.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Killer Angel

My point is that adult humans don't have memories (only fragments) of their very first years, while erfworld units don't have any childhood, so if we convert turn in days and in "years equivalent", those are "fully" years.

You're gonna have to trace that logic for me because I have NO IDEA what made you draw those conclusions... in fact now that i read it again, i'm not entirely sure i understand what you just said A year is fully a year? wut?

[Mutant Sheep]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

You're gonna have to trace that logic for me because I have NO IDEA what made you draw those conclusions... in fact now that i read it again, i'm not entirely sure i understand what you just said A year is fully a year? wut?

Well, they barely even sleep, if they even do. He somehow interpreted you talking about Signamancy (you can get a grey beard at your first turn, if you wanted/popped that way) as "Erfworlders dont have foggy childhood memories/lack of memory of birth". I think.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Mutant Sheep

Well, they barely even sleep, if they even do. He somehow interpreted you talking about Signamancy (you can get a grey beard at your first turn, if you wanted/popped that way) as "Erfworlders dont have foggy childhood memories/lack of memory of birth". I think.

Erfworlders sleep, i believe. The Jetstone trooper with the hair her friends envy brought up bunks, if i remember correctly.

But I still don't see the logic.

[Luzahn]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

Erfworlders sleep, i believe. The Jetstone trooper with the hair her friends envy brought up bunks, if i remember correctly.

But I still don't see the logic.

Well, this is Erfworld. Just because there are bunks doesn't mean that they're used.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Luzahn

Well, this is Erfworld. Just because there are bunks doesn't mean that they're used.

Also, in the summer text updates, Ansom says something that makes absolutely no sense in any case but makes even LESS sense if sleep doesn't exist.

Namely, that using the Dwagon relay system means he won't sleep much.

[ChowGuy]

Originally Posted by Luzahn

Well, this is Erfworld. Just because there are bunks doesn't mean that they're used.

I expect you're making a joke, but there has been no indication that they're not, and while I'm not going to search for them all there have actually been a number of references to units sleeping; Jillian has mentioned a couple times that she prefers sleeping in the field for example. And just recently there this was this from Inner Peace 38 in Diecast before Jillian's capture:

“It’s a disbanded shame we can’t sleep here tonight. I’d like to use it a few more times.”

In the morning, not one in the company awakened.

Back in Book 1, Parson tells Bogroll to go to his room and sleep for him, and Bogroll has no problem understanding him. Not to mention we see Wanda sleeping.

We don't see units sleeping more often for the same reason we don't see them eating or popping very often although we know they do both - it's not interesting and does not add anything to the story.

[Killer Angel]

Originally Posted by HalfTangible

You're gonna have to trace that logic for me because I have NO IDEA what made you draw those conclusions... in fact now that i read it again, i'm not entirely sure i understand what you just said A year is fully a year? wut?

Clearly, I explained myself very poorly. I apologize, let's see if I can arrange something better.
HandsofShadows was wandering about "how old were Erfworld's characters".
You answered that "The oldest person whose age we know of we know of in erfworld is a little more than a thousand turns old, and a turn lasts a day. So... 3 or 4 years old".

Erfworlds unit pop already adult. They don't know what a child is.

In our world, a 15 years old guy is a teenager that doesn't even remember well his childhood... in Erfworld, you have an adult with 15 years of experience in a field of competence. Since their first day of existence, they are "fully" operative, so my point is that we cannot compare erfworld's turns to our world's years.