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OK, it seems like Mirror Image is one of the worst culprits of spells (especially popular, low level core spells) for causing rules confusion. I thought it might be nice to have an FAQ/Q&A thread for Mirror Image.
Below I have spoilered the “official” FAQ entries regarding our friend, Mirror Image. I have also spoilered the SRD entry for the spell itself.
Now, I’m going to add to this list as I go, but here’s some of the questions I’ve often seen asked about Mirror Image (I will add more as people come up with questions and answers):
Q1 Can you shut your eyes (accepting a 50% miss chance) and simply ignore Mirror Image?
A1 Definitely yes. It's right there in the spell description: An attacker must be able to see the images to be fooled. If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect. (Being unable to see carries the same penalties as being blinded.)
Q2 How does Magic Missile interact with Mirror Image? Do the missiles automatically target the real creature, or does every missile have a chance of striking an image?
A2 As per the FAQ: Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. When you use a spell that allows you to select multiple creatures as targets, such as magic missile, you can choose multiple images as targets.
Q3 Do spells which target a creature, but not have a physical effect (Charm Person, for example) have a chance to target an image instead of the real creature?
A3 Yes, as per the FAQ: Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. Whether this destroys the image or not isn't quite as clear. I believe the answer would be yes, as a Charm Person spell is considered an "attack" (as per the Invisibility spell, any offensive spell is considered an attack). As per the spell: Any successful attack against an image destroys it.
Q4 Do allies have a chance to “hit” an image with a beneficial touch spell, such as Cure Light Wounds? If they do, does this destroy the image?
A4 It would seem obvious that if an ally seeks to touch you with a beneficial spell or other effect, he would have to try and pick you from the images as normal. What isn't so clear, is if a touch with a beneficial spell would destroy an image. the spell states: Any successful attack against an image destroys it. The real question is whether this counts as an attack or not.
Q5 Does a fireball or other AoE spell destroy all images?
A5 No. As per the spell: Figments seem to react normally to area spells (such as looking like they’re burned or dead after being hit by a fireball).
Q6 How would Mirror Image stack with spells that grant concealment and a miss chance such as Blur? Would it be a case of 20% chance to miss whenever you make an attack roll against an image or only if you "pick" the real caster?
A6 The FAQ addresses this pretty directly: The images also look just like the caster, and they share purely visual effects such as the blur or displacement spell. If the mirror image user is also using either of these effects, an attack aimed at an image has the same miss chance an attack aimed at the caster has.
Q7 Do multiple casting of Mirror Image stack?
A7 No, Mirror Image would follow the normal spell stacking rules, and overlap rather than stack. A second casting would extend the duration of the spell, and if the number of images rolled for the new casting was greater than the existing number, that would become the new number of images.
Level: Brd 2, Sor/Wiz 2 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Personal; see text Target: You Duration: 1 min./level (D)
Several illusory duplicates of you pop into being, making it difficult for enemies to know which target to attack. The figments stay near you and disappear when struck.
Mirror image creates 1d4 images plus one image per three caster levels (maximum eight images total). These figments separate from you and remain in a cluster, each within 5 feet of at least one other figment or you. You can move into and through a mirror image. When you and the mirror image separate, observers can’t use vision or hearing to tell which one is you and which the image. The figments may also move through each other. The figments mimic your actions, pretending to cast spells when you cast a spell, drink potions when you drink a potion, levitate when you levitate, and so on.
Enemies attempting to attack you or cast spells at you must select from among indistinguishable targets. Generally, roll randomly to see whether the selected target is real or a figment. Any successful attack against an image destroys it. An image’s AC is 10 + your size modifier + your Dex modifier. Figments seem to react normally to area spells (such as looking like they’re burned or dead after being hit by a fireball).
While moving, you can merge with and split off from figments so that enemies who have learned which image is real are again confounded.
An attacker must be able to see the images to be fooled. If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect. (Being unable to see carries the same penalties as being blinded.)
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Are the multiple figments from a mirror image spell legal targets for cleaving? That is, if you have the Cleave feat and you hit an image and destroy it, can you then attack another target within reach (such as another figment from the spell or perhaps the spell user)? What about Whirlwind Attack? Can you use this feat to attack all the images around the spell user? What about spells that allow multiple targets, such as magic missile? Can you aim magic missiles at different images?
For all intents and purposes, the figments from a foe’s mirror image spell are your foes. You aim your spells and your attacks at the figments just as though they were real creatures.
Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. When you use a spell that allows you to select multiple creatures as targets, such as magic missile, you can choose multiple images as targets.
If you have the Cleave or Great Cleave feat, destroying an image with a melee attack triggers the feat (and your cleaving attack might well strike the spell user instead of another image). Likewise, you can use Whirlwind Attack to strike at any image you can reach. A Whirlwind Attack almost certainly will allow you to strike once at the spell user.
Is there a way to decide which squares the figments from a mirror image spell occupy? Or do the images distribute themselves randomly? If it’s the latter, how does the DM decide where they go?
Although the spell description says the images from a mirror image spell always stay within 5 feet of either the user or another image, it’s easiest to assume that all the images occupy the same space the spell user occupies. Any attack that can reach the user’s space can affect an image.
The mirror image spell description says the images have an Armor Class of 10 + size modifier + Dexterity modifier. Can you improve this with spells the spellcaster casts on herself, such as shield or mage armor? If so, why doesn’t the spell description say the images have the caster’s Armor Class? What happens if the caster has cover from her surroundings? Will cover improve the images’ ACs? What about concealment? Will fog or foliage produce a miss chance for a foe that aims an attack at an image? What about magical concealment, such as a blur or displacement spell?
The images from a mirror image spell don’t use the caster’s Armor Class. Use the formula in the spell description to calculate each image’s Armor Class (10 + caster’s size modifier + caster’s Dexterity modifier). Use the caster’s current Dexterity modifier for each image’s Armor Class, no matter how the caster happened to get that modifier. Any Armor Class improvements the caster might have from equipment she carries or wears, or from magic operating on her person, don’t apply to the images. For example, a Medium user with a Dexterity score of 16, a shield spell, and a suit of +2 leather armor has an Armor Class of 21 (10 +4 shield, +4 armor, and +3 Dexterity), but her images have an Armor Class of 13 (10 +3 Dexterity).
It’s easiest to assume the images share the user’s location on the battlefield, and gain any cover bonuses that might apply to the spell user in that location. If the character in the previous example were behind cover, she would have an Armor Class of 25 and her images would have an Armor Class of 17.
If the user has concealment from her surroundings, the images have the same concealment. The images also look just like the caster, and they share purely visual effects such as the blur or displacement spell. If the mirror image user is also using either of these effects, an attack aimed at an image has the same miss chance an attack aimed at the caster has.
What happens if a mirror image user is incorporeal? Are the user’s images also incorporeal? Do attacks aimed at the images have the incorporeal miss chance? If the incorporeal user moves through a wall, can the images move through the wall, too? What happens if the user goes to another plane? Do the images go along? What if the mirror image user employs a blink spell?
Incorporeal spell casters create corporeal effects. So the figments from an incorporeal user’s mirror image spell are themselves corporeal. Attacks aimed at the images have no incorporeal miss chance.
The images, however, appear like the caster and move as the caster moves. If an incorporeal user moves through a wall, its mirror images also appear to move through the wall.
If a mirror image user moves to another plane, the images go along. If the user employs a blink spell, the images blink right along with the user, and any attack aimed at an image has the same miss chance (50%) it has if aimed at the caster.
What happens when an attacker accidentally uses a touch spell against a figment from a mirror image spell? You can hold the charge with a touch spell, right? So if you touch an image (which really isn’t there), is the touch spell discharged? Does the touch spell user get a chance to disbelieve the image and avoid discharging the spell?
As noted in an earlier question, the figments from a mirror image spell function just like creatures for the purpose of aiming spells. If a foe using a touch spell touches an image, the spell is harmlessly discharged (though the image is destroyed).
There is no chance to disbelieve a mirror image spell—if there was, the spell would have a saving throw entry and the entry would read “Will disbelief.”
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The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. (Exactly who is a foe depends on the invisible character’s perceptions.) Actions directed at unattended objects do not break the spell. Causing harm indirectly is not an attack.
* Q1 Can you shut your eyes (accepting a 50% miss chance) and simply ignore Mirror Image?
* A1 IMO, no. Not being able to see the targets doesn't stop them being there.
* Q2 How does Magic Missile interact with Mirror Image? Doe the missiles automatically target the real creature, or does every missile have a chance of striking an image?
* A2 I'd say it strikes the actual creature.
* Q3 Do spells which target a creature, but not have a physical effect (Charm Person, for example) have a chance to target an image instead of the real creature?
* A3 I'd say spells like Charm Person have a chance to target an image, but no effect. I'd also say this destroys the image.
* Q4 Do allies have a chance to “hit” an image with a beneficial touch spell, such as Cure Light Wounds? If they do, does this destroy the image?
* A4 IMO, yes to both.
A1 Definitely yes. It's right there in the spell description:
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An attacker must be able to see the images to be fooled. If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect. (Being unable to see carries the same penalties as being blinded.)
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I would argue that Charm Person (and other non-damaging effects) can't target the (non-creature) images, regardless of what the FAQ says. This does NOT allow you to distinguish the caster from the other images.
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Does a fireball or other AoE spell destroy all images?
No. For the line quoted below to work, the image would still have to be in existence.
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Figments seem to react normally to area spells (such as looking like they’re burned or dead after being hit by a fireball).
[hr]Of note: Previous editions said "struck with a weapon" instead of "a successful attack".
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I would argue that Charm Person (and other non-damaging effects) can't target the (non-creature) images, regardless of what the FAQ says. This does NOT allow you to distinguish the caster from the other images.
So you would say that if you were to throw a Charm Person at a caster with a Mirror Image up, it would bypass the images, and he would have to make a save as normal?
* Q1 Can you shut your eyes (accepting a 50% miss chance) and simply ignore Mirror Image?
* A1 IMO, no. Not being able to see the targets doesn't stop them being there.
* Q2 How does Magic Missile interact with Mirror Image? Doe the missiles automatically target the real creature, or does every missile have a chance of striking an image?
* A2 I'd say it strikes the actual creature.
* Q3 Do spells which target a creature, but not have a physical effect (Charm Person, for example) have a chance to target an image instead of the real creature?
* A3 I'd say spells like Charm Person have a chance to target an image, but no effect. I'd also say this destroys the image.
* Q4 Do allies have a chance to “hit” an image with a beneficial touch spell, such as Cure Light Wounds? If they do, does this destroy the image?
* A4 IMO, yes to both.
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Does a fireball or other AoE spell destroy all images?
@ CapnCJ
A1 Yes, its right there in the spell description, though you still have to know which square the real target is in.
A2 With single target, or multiple target damage spells, I'd say that you have to choose which images/real one to target, so if you cast magic missle at level 7, then you targeted four images, it would destroy four of the images.
A3 Why would a charm destroy one? To me, I'd rule that it passed it's will save (or at least tell the player that).
A4 If they target an Image with a spell, they use the spell on that image, but it wouldn't destroy it.
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It would destroy any images that got caught in the blast.
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So you would say that if you were to throw a Charm Person at a caster with a Mirror Image up, it would bypass the images, and he would have to make a save as normal?
Yes. Mirror Image is primarily a physical attack defense. There's a lot of overlap with Blur, but Blur doesn't discharge and doesn't scale with caster level, but is also a lot less effective.
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It would destroy any images that got caught in the blast.
The images disappear when they are destroyed. They can't "seem to react normally to area spells" if they don't exist any more.
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*Q6.5 how would mirror image stack with spells that grant concealment and a miss chance such as Blur? Would it be a case of 20% chance to miss whenever you make an attack roll against an image or only if you "pick" the real caster?
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* Q1 Can you shut your eyes (accepting a 50% miss chance) and simply ignore Mirror Image?
* A1 IMO, no. Not being able to see the targets doesn't stop them being there.
* Q2 How does Magic Missile interact with Mirror Image? Doe the missiles automatically target the real creature, or does every missile have a chance of striking an image?
* A2 I'd say it strikes the actual creature.
You can houserule it that way, but it goes against RAW and the spell's description itself.
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[*]Q3 Do spells which target a creature, but not have a physical effect (Charm Person, for example) have a chance to target an image instead of the real creature?[*]A3 Yes, as per the FAQ: Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. Whether this destroys the image or not isn't quite as clear. I believe the answer would be yes, as a Charm Person spell is considered an "attack" (as per the Invisibility spell, any offensive spell is considered an attack). As per the spell: Any successful attack against an image destroys it.
I've got some doubt on this.
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The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. (Exactly who is a foe depends on the invisible character’s perceptions.) Actions directed at unattended objects do not break the spell. Causing harm indirectly is not an attack.
The way I read it, it's that Charme Person is considered an attack, only for the purpose of ending the invisibility.
Any thoughts?
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If anyone has other questions to add, or wishes to dispute any of the answers above, please feel free.
"Q7": do multiple casting of Mirror Image stack?
I would say "yes".
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whoops got the wrong number for my question above.
A7 I would say it followed the standard rules for spell stacking; if you cast it again only the highest value applies so in this case whichever casting produced the most images. I wouldn't let a 6th level wizard cast it 3 times for 3d4+6 images
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Yeah, these are just some of the many issues that come with Mirror Image - it's a spell with it's own unique set of ambiguous rules and issues. The reason it comes up so often, is that it is such a great, low level defensive spell.
For the Charm Person issue, there are (at least) two stances you could take:
1. Each image can be targeted exactly as if it were a creature. This is the approach the FAQ takes, but that leads to it's own set of problems. The images are destroyed by "any successful attack". What exactly constitutes an attack? It it only something that causes hit point damage? IMHO, allowing the images to soak up targeted spells like Charm Person but not be destroyed would be pretty powerful for a second level spell...
2. Individually targeted non-damaging spells (or other effects) automatically "hit" the real creature.
Both approaches have their merits, and downfalls...
How do Mirror Images react to the colateral damage of splash weapons (such as alchemist's fire)? From Special Attacks, Thrown Splash Weapons, "A hit deals direct hit damage to the target, and splash damage to all creatures within 5 feet of the target. "
# A3 Yes, as per the FAQ: Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image. Whether this destroys the image or not isn't quite as clear. I believe the answer would be yes, as a Charm Person spell is considered an "attack" (as per the Invisibility spell, any offensive spell is considered an attack). As per the spell: Any successful attack against an image destroys it.
# Q4 Do allies have a chance to “hit” an image with a beneficial touch spell, such as Cure Light Wounds? If they do, does this destroy the image?
# A4 It would seem obvious that if an ally seeks to touch you with a beneficial spell or other effect, he would have to try and pick you from the images as normal. What isn't so clear, is if a touch with a beneficial spell would destroy an image. the spell states: Any successful attack against an image destroys it. The real question is whether this counts as an attack or not.
For the sake of consistency, if A3 defines what constitutes an "attack" in terms of Invisibility, so should A4. A healing spell on an ally doesn't break Invisibility, hence it's not an attack.
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How do Mirror Images react to the colateral damage of splash weapons (such as alchemist's fire)? From Special Attacks, Thrown Splash Weapons, "A hit deals direct hit damage to the target, and splash damage to all creatures within 5 feet of the target. "
That's an area effect. Question about area effects was already answered.
Q8: Is there a good alternative to Mirror Image that basically captures the fluff, but with comprehensible crunch? I'm open to homebrew or the ban hammer on this issue. It's a fun spell that players have toyed with from time to time, but the specifics of using it are ridiculous.
Glitterdust would have a chance to blind the caster as normal, and all of the images would appear to be covered in the dust (since the images share purely visible effects, and appear to react normally to area spells).
Faerie Fire is more interesting, because of this line:
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Outlined creatures do not benefit from the concealment normally provided by darkness (though a 2nd-level or higher magical darkness effect functions normally), blur, displacement, invisibility, or similar effects
Personally, I would interpret Mirror Image as not being similar to those spells, since it's a different kind of illusion. Given that, all of the images would appear to be outlined by the spell.
However, I think the alternative interpretation is reasonable enough to be worth noting -- if your DM uses it, then Faerie Fire would only outline the real image, negating the benefit of Mirror Image.
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How do Mirror Images react to the colateral damage of splash weapons (such as alchemist's fire)? From Special Attacks, Thrown Splash Weapons, "A hit deals direct hit damage to the target, and splash damage to all creatures within 5 feet of the target. "
If the weapon ends up targeting an image, then that image is destroyed (assuming a hit), the caster takes splash damage, and the surviving images appear to take splash damage.
If the weapon ends up targeting the real caster, then the caster takes direct hit damage. The images would appear to take damage from the attack, and they would look exactly the same as the caster as a result of it (so if the caster ends up on fire, all of the images would appear to be on fire, for example).
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What does beat mirror image? besides touchsight and true seeing, that is.
There are a number of offensive spells, including Horrid Wilting, which instead of targeting an area, target any number of individuals who must be within a given distance of each other. A single casting of such a spell would be able to pop every image and hit the caster.
Magic Missile is the lowest-level example of such a spell, although it may not work if there are too many images.
Tremorsense and Blindsense/Blindsight would also be able to pick out the true caster.
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I've always ruled that AoEs that do physical damage (eg Ice Storm) take out Images, whereas energy AoEs (eg Fireball) don't. Is this a correct interpretation of RAW ?
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I've always ruled that AoEs that do physical damage (eg Ice Storm) take out Images, whereas energy AoEs (eg Fireball) don't. Is this a correct interpretation of RAW ?
Not really, AoE's aren't supposed to take out images, which is why images can appear unconscious and not pop out (if caster is now unconscious).
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Q8: Is there a good alternative to Mirror Image that basically captures the fluff, but with comprehensible crunch? I'm open to homebrew or the ban hammer on this issue. It's a fun spell that players have toyed with from time to time, but the specifics of using it are ridiculous.
A8?Treat it as Displacement, so 50% chance, but the images are number of misses due to concealment possible (each time miss due to conceal, a image pops).
So it is weaker than displacement as missing due to concealment defeats it, but still useful as good chance you won't be hit.
Drawback: magic missile no longer pops it.
# Q1 Can you shut your eyes (accepting a 50% miss chance) and simply ignore Mirror Image?
# A1 Definitely yes. It's right there in the spell description: An attacker must be able to see the images to be fooled. If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect. (Being unable to see carries the same penalties as being blinded.)
I believe the 50% miss chance only applies if you know which square to attack. If you attack the wrong square, the miss chance is in fact 100%. Closing you eyes doesn't magically confer information about the square occupied by the true caster. You still need to make a Listen check, or take a lucky guess.
I believe the 50% miss chance only applies if you know which square to attack. If you attack the wrong square, the miss chance is in fact 100%. Closing you eyes doesn't magically confer information about the square occupied by the true caster. You still need to make a Listen check, or take a lucky guess.
Yeah, that line at the end of the spell description confuses me. I understand why Mirror Image wouldn't work on an opponent who is using methods besides Sight to see (Like Tremorsense or Blindsense), and how it would have no effect if the enemy couldn't see you anyway.
But I don't get the line about "Closing their eyes". Yes, when your eyes are closed the spell has no effect, but I don't get why anybody would think it would. Besides, that would be like reacting to the enemy trying to disarm you by throwing your weapon away.
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Yes, when your eyes are closed the spell has no effect, but I don't get why anybody would think it would. Besides, that would be like reacting to the enemy trying to disarm you by throwing your weapon away.
And if throwing the weapon away occupies them enough that you can choke them to death with your bare hands, you might well do just that. Which is the parallel: if your chances are better blind - maybe you have blindfighting feats or abilities, or can ignore miss chances in some way, or maybe there are enough images that you're better off taking the miss chance - it's the smartest move you can make.
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