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Old 03-01-2012, 12:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1291
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That kobold is deader than dead (I think you brought him to his negative bloodied value). That combo is BRUTAL. It would have killed any of the mobs in the encounter, even if the priest had managed to buff them first.

of course rolling two 20's and a 19 helps...

you do hit the wyrmpriest too. It will take a while for me to produce the next post, look for it this evening.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1292
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Ok, so I didnt need the rampage to finish of the first kobold then (of course, 39 damage on a kobold should do the trick)... too bad lol.... it wont happen so often that Rampage ability trigger .
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1293
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AS for the combo thing, I did choose the avenger multi-class to get more chances to trigger rampage, but it wont happen that much more anyway (max 3 more chances per fight - two round + AP). It is also a nice power to have simply to double your chances to hit the enemy


It is sad that I cannot use Rampage and swift charge in the same turn, but I was not planning on that when I chose my abilities anyway lol.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1294
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You need to team up with a warlord/marshal or someone who can grant you extra attacks. By some clever use of delays and readied actions, you can get 4 oath benefits without using an AP.

The oath effect doesn't double your overall chances of hitting, it's more like reducing by half your chance of missing -- if your regular chance to hit a mob is 50% (hit on a 11 or higher) the Oath increases the chance to 75%. For easier or harder monsters the effect is less-- if your regular chance to hit a mob is 25% (hit on 16 or higher) the oath increases the chance to 43.75%.

It does almost exactly double your chance to crit though.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1295
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Oh man. That was awesome.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1296
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Are the marks imposed by Piercing Smite plain old marks (just -2 to attacks) or Divine Challenge marks (also 3+CHA damage)? Since the Piercing Smite text says the marks last "until end of next turn", with no possibility of extending it, which is different than the Divine Challenge text ("you must engage the target...by the end of your turn [or else] the marked condition ends" I believe they're just plain old marks, and violating them doesn't cause the Divine Challenge damage unless you overwrite one with a DC.
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1297
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I dont have access to my compendium right now, but unless the power says that it subject the monster to his DIVINE SANCTION (which have been implemented later with new power (Divine power) and is basicly the same as Divine challenge except it build in some powers and have a set duration instead of sticking until the paladin cannot engage the monster).

If it only say mark, there is no retribution to it (only give -2 if he isnt included in targets).
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1298
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Oh geez, I'm sorry about that. I forgot to specify. I don't have access to my books right now either, but I'm almost positive that they are just normal marks. No special divine sanction, just the -2 attack penalty. Sorry again about that
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1299
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I took my turn in advance (I wont have time to post later tonight.

SAdly, I cannot always roll high I guess. Lol.

Also, I had access to the compendium : Arhjan attack Marks the target (not divine sanction). SO it give -2 to attack with no other retribution.

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Old 03-01-2012, 06:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1300
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The Dragonshields have an immediate reaction when you move or shift near them:

Dragonshield Tactics (immediate reaction, when an adjacent
enemy shifts away or an enemy moves adjacent; at-will)
The kobold dragonshield shifts 1 square.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1301
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Dekkah -- you forgot the -2 mark penalty to attack, but it doesn't matter.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1302
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Can I have some of that love from the dice Mertes. My attacks are doing nothing.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1303
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Those kobolds do like to shift, don't they?

There can only be one mark on a creature at a time, thus Mukesh's mark will overwrite Arjhan's mark on DS2.

Kon Lesh -- you forgot, for burst, blast, and area attacks, you have to roll an attack roll for each enemy in the area. Here's your other roll:
(1d20+6)[1](7)

Edit: NO. WAY. Double natural 1 on a burst attack?

And I know that tactically it would be better for the dragonshield to stay away from Mertes so that he can charge, but it was just too fun to put him in a bind like that.

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Old 03-01-2012, 11:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1304
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The good thing is that I am the meat shield of the group. So they have to attack me or get ...attacked......OR SLIDE THEM...That will work...maybe.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:16 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1305
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Yeah, I forgot the mark penalty.. not that it matters lol. I realised this as I was driving (I remebered that dragonshield marked lol).

Thanks for the heal Zimelda.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1306
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Lycan 01: 21 hits, and woo hoo max damage!

Did Zimelda actually shift, or was that just fluff?

Hey Kon Lesh, if you want better luck, the dice seem to like you better when you're wielding Osmophile.

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Old 03-02-2012, 09:52 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1307
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Also -- I should have posted this before --

I will be on vacation from March 11-18. Internet access will be possible but extremely expensive, so I won't be able to post. You might as well use the time to choose the feat and utility power you'll get at level 2 (use any official sourcebook).
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:57 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1308
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Just letting you guys know that I am gonna be on vacation up to march 13th.
I should still be able to reply reliably (every day). Still, the times I reply might be different and I may have a day or two where I dont show up at all.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1309
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Dekkah --

If we're in combat, and you're the only one who hasn't posted, and 20 hours have passed, what do you want Mertes to do in that situation? Do you want one of the other players to control him? Do you want me to control him? If so, do you have preferred powers you'd like to use, or a set of rules ("if this happens then I shift away, if this happens then I use second wind")?
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1310
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Well I was going to move, but now there seems to be a Kobold blocking my path. So I guess it was just fluff.
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1311
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Ok, here the 3 basic things you can do for me if I am unable to post :

1 : If I am surrounded by enemies and in trouble (flanked and stuff), use pressing strike to shift 2 (even throught enemy squares) before the attack (+6 VS AC, 1D12+4). The idea is to place myself where I'll get less attacks possible, get flank if possible.

2 : If I am alone, position myself then charge the more damaged enemy or the same that my allies are focusing on (to finish him off quickly) using Howling strike (+6 VS AC, 1D12+4+1D6)

3 : Rest of the time, use Howling strike for the bonus damage die (+6 VS AC, 1D12+4+1D6)
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:08 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1312
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Well I was going to move, but now there seems to be a Kobold blocking my path. So I guess it was just fluff.
Yeah, sorry about that, when I made the map I forgot that the DS had shifted away from Mertes after hitting him, so as to block Zimelda and force Mertes to decide who to go after. Thus the DS wasn't able to follow Mertes.

From your post it looked like you wanted to shift to L14, flanking the DS2 kobold with Mukesh (even though you didn't include the flanking bonus in your attack roll). You still have the option to retcon it to a shift to M14, flanking the DS2 kobold with Arjhan.

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Old 03-02-2012, 03:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1313
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I'll move to M14 then, provided it doesn't get me smacked by an opportunity attack.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1314
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These Dragonshields aren't Defenders -- they don't attack you for shifting near them. They only can shift if you shift away or move adjacent (that includes shifting). You moved adjacent to two dragonshields; I have to decide if either of them are going to shift in response.

Zimelda should have gotten +2 to attack the Dragonshield (but she hit anyway without it).
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1315
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In the future it would definitely be helpful if your combat posts contained lines for Standard, Move, and Minor actions, even if one or more of them is Do Nothing.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1316
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tedthehunter -- looks like you forgot the mark penalty to your attack as well (when you attack an enemy other than the one that marked you, it's supposed to be -2). But I'm wondering if there's any reason you didn't use Valiant Strike -- it would have given you a +2 to the attack for being adjacent to 2 enemies, and you can use it whenever you want.

That said, neither makes a difference -- a 24, 22, or 26 hits the DS's AC.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1317
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tedthehunter -- looks like you forgot the mark penalty to your attack as well (when you attack an enemy other than the one that marked you, it's supposed to be -2). But I'm wondering if there's any reason you didn't use Valiant Strike -- it would have given you a +2 to the attack for being adjacent to 2 enemies, and you can use it whenever you want.

That said, neither makes a difference -- a 24, 22, or 26 hits the DS's AC.
Yeah I'm sorry again about the delay, I was busy most of the day. And when I posted I didn't have access to my powers so I just went with a melee basic. I didn't realize I was marked either.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1318
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Ted :
the mark power you can apply in minor is Divine Challenge.
Divine sanction is the other type mark you have access to built-in some paladin powers. It basicly does the same thing (deals radiant daamge if he doesnt targt you), but they have different ending condition.
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Ted :
the mark power you can apply in minor is Divine Challenge.
Divine sanction is the other type mark you have access to built-in some paladin powers. It basicly does the same thing (deals radiant daamge if he doesnt targt you), but they have different ending condition.
Oh geez you guys, I'm sorry haha . I didn't have my books with me when I posted yesterday. I'll try to be at home when I post so this doesn't happen anymore. I hope I didn't cause any major confusion.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1320
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Not to worry, I was just pointing an error (nothing really important lol).
Dont take anythingI say as offensive please... I do point out mistakes when I see them. I am the one who knows the rules at most of my PNP games... so I took the habit in telling rules as they are required.
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