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I'll consider the spellcasting thing . On the "pro" side:
- it's more fun, it's more elegant, it's an obscure trick that most low-OP players wouldn't notice, it's epic level only, and it still leaves the class firmly tier two as they can, at maximum, learn 6 9th level spells, off a smallish list as they're relying on color boons to do it.
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- It wasn't the original intent, it somewhat (not entirely) obsoletes the Legend "gain a 9th as a SLA 2/day" boons, the class was supposed to be tier 3 and has ballooned up to a higher tier, planeswalkers have potential access to every spell in the game which is really powerful and the limiting reagent was supposed to be "But they really don't get 9s".
So I'd like some other player's feedback before I decide for sure. This class is apparently getting tested places; I don't want it to come off as the Lightning Warrior and give people a sour impression of it .
I see what you mean. Still, 9ths at level 25 aren't that bad.
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As for the initiator boons, I really like the look of them. My only concern is whether they are so much better than most other 1st level boons that they become "no duh" choices, and that it makes the class even more of a "perfect Lightning Warrior" class. But I also really like ToB, and accept the fact that there's already a largely intentional power discrepancy between novice boons (Let's see, do I want scaling DR, a few extra spells known, or...a few lame class skills?). So I tentatively approve. They'd get bonus points if the boon name was also a card name
Well, I tried to make it comparable to Oskar's Fighter ACF that netted it a maneuver and a stance.... Maybe reduce it to one maneuver, and make the next one be two, so that they're relying on feats for stances...
EDIT: WHAT THE @&#&!? How does that even...
And the post reappeared when I posted. Odd.
EDIT 2: Electric Boogaloo: Right. Here's the edited initiator boons.
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Novice
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White
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Student of Warfare
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Stone Dragon, White Raven. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Blue
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Ceta Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Diamond Mind, Setting Sun, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Black
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Cabal Trainee
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Shadow Hand, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Red
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Soldier of Fortune
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Desert Wind, Iron Heart, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Green
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Ana Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Iron Heart, Stone Dragon, Tiger Claw. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
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The Next Round: Hundreds of the Guardians of Time show up and one of them screams out, "THIS IS AN UNSANCTIONED VIOLATION OF SPACE-TIME."
Maybe I've been reading too much Nymphology lately, But I totally expected something else when I read Blue in relation to magic. Then I remembered Magic, as in the colors....
I do like, quite alot and it would fit well with a campaign I'm making....
Student of Warfare
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Stone Dragon, White Raven. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Blue
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Ceta Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Diamond Mind, Setting Sun, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Black
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Cabal Trainee
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Shadow Hand, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Red
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Soldier of Fortune
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Desert Wind, Iron Heart, Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Green
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Ana Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Iron Heart, Stone Dragon, Tiger Claw. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
I think blue should have shadow hand since blue has lots of sneaky creatures and infiltration/spy themed creatures.
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I think blue should have shadow hand since blue has lots of sneaky creatures and infiltration/spy themed creatures.
Well, I wanted to give each of the colors something that's theirs. White gets Raven, Red gets Desert Wind, Green gets Tiger Claw, Blue gets Diamond Mind and Setting Sun (which is focused slightly on counters and rules trickery, something that Blue is...), and Black gets Shadow Hand.
Though I see your point about Blue and sneaking... Maybe remove Setting Sun for it, or make it a choice between the two?
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The Next Round: Hundreds of the Guardians of Time show up and one of them screams out, "THIS IS AN UNSANCTIONED VIOLATION OF SPACE-TIME."
New Mythic White Boon:
Angel's Grace:
Once per day, if an effect would kill you or otherwise incapacitate you, you may activate this ability as an immediate action. Until the end of your next turn, you are immune to any effect that would kill or incapacitate you. Any damage you take that would reduce your HP to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead.
I know I'm delving into non-magic books here, but a recent thread got me interested in Shadow Magic again, specifically from Tome of Magic, and it got me thinking...
Would this particular thread of "magic" be considered Black or Blue?
I know I'm delving into non-magic books here, but a recent thread got me interested in Shadow Magic again, specifically from Tome of Magic, and it got me thinking...
Would this particular thread of "magic" be considered Black or Blue?
Tough call; I'm not super familiar with ToM stuff but flipping through it I'd lean towards Black. While Illusion effects are strongly blue, a lot of what is there is related to creating darkness, manipulating life energy, spreading fear and horror. Rather than split them up based on school, I'd go for Black since black can do anything for the right price.
Also shadows are black in real life - thematically,it makes more sense for Shadow Magic to be black, instead of blue.
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New Boons
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Novice
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White
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Student of Warfare
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Stone Dragon, and White Raven. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Blue
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Ceta Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Diamond Mind, Stone Dragon, and Setting Sun OR Shadow Hand (Chosen when you first take this boon). This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Black
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Cabal Trainee
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Shadow Hand, and Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Red
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Soldier of Fortune
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Desert Wind, Iron Heart, and Stone Dragon. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Green
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Ana Disciple
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any maneuver that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Iron Heart, Stone Dragon, and Tiger Claw. This maneuver is always readied, and can be used only once per encounter. To recover an expended maneuver, from this boon and any other boons you may gain, or from the Martial Study feat, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers.
Journeyman Boons
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White
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Unmovable SentryWhen you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any 2maneuvers that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Stone Dragon, and White Raven. You gain a pool of readied maneuvers equal to the number of White Boons you have taken, and may ready any maneuver you know from White boons in these slots. To recover expended maneuvers, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers. Special: You may take this boon multiple times. Every time after the first, instead of the standard effects, you learn another maneuver from one the allowed disciplines which you meet the prerequisites for.
Blue
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Talas trained warrior
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any 2maneuvers that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Diamond Mind, Stone Dragon, and Setting Sun OR Shadow Hand (Chosen when you first take this boon- if you have taken Ceta Disciple, you must choose the same school you chose for the purposes of that boon for this one). You gain a pool of readied maneuvers equal to the number of Blue Boons you have taken, and may ready any maneuver you know from Blue boons in these slots. To recover expended maneuvers, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers. Special: You may take this boon multiple times. Every time after the first, instead of the standard effects, you learn another maneuver from one the allowed disciplines which you meet the prerequisites for.
Black
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Dread Warrior
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any 2maneuvers that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Devoted Spirit, Shadow Hand, and Stone Dragon. You gain a pool of readied maneuvers equal to the number of Black Boons you have taken, and may ready any maneuver you know from Black boons in these slots. To recover expended maneuvers, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers. Special: You may take this boon multiple times. Every time after the first, instead of the standard effects, you learn another maneuver from one the allowed disciplines which you meet the prerequisites for.
Red
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Nova Chaser
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any 2maneuvers that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Desert Wind, Iron Heart, and Stone Dragon. You gain a pool of readied maneuvers equal to the number of Red Boons you have taken, and may ready any maneuver you know from Red boons in these slots. To recover expended maneuvers, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers. Special: You may take this boon multiple times. Every time after the first, instead of the standard effects, you learn another maneuver from one the allowed disciplines which you meet the prerequisites for.
Green
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Norwood Warrior
When you take this boon, increase your Initiator level by one. You learn any 2maneuvers that you meet the prerequisites for from any of the following disciplines: Iron Hear, Tiger Claw, and Stone Dragon. You gain a pool of readied maneuvers equal to the number of Green Boons you have taken, and may ready any maneuver you know from Green boons in these slots. To recover expended maneuvers, you may take a full round action to concentrate. After doing so, you recover all expended maneuvers. Special: You may take this boon multiple times. Every time after the first, instead of the standard effects, you learn another maneuver from one the allowed disciplines which you meet the prerequisites for.
So, yeah. Added five more boons to the initiator set. Thoughts?
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The Next Round: Hundreds of the Guardians of Time show up and one of them screams out, "THIS IS AN UNSANCTIONED VIOLATION OF SPACE-TIME."
First off this is a real gem of first class homebrew and was inqiuring If I may use these in my campaigns? And second ever had consideration on making equipment and creatures similar to the Phyrexia thread? http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186026
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He can cast any spell he knows without preparing it ahead of time, the way a wizard or a cleric must (see below).
... What?
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His base daily spell allotment is given on Table: The Sorcerer.
Why not just reference the table that is presented?
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He gains additional uses of this ability per day as he gains levels in the Planeswalker class, with a maximum of 5/day at level 20.
the table doesn't make a reasonable progression for this ability. I suggest: 1/day at 1st level, 2/day at 5th level, 3/day at 10th level, 4/day at 15th level and finally 5/day at 20th level. The text for this would read He gains additional uses of this ability again at 5th level and again every 5 levels thereafter. This allows it to extend into Epic Progression (and if you don't want it to, then just say "Until 20th level"."
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Emergency Walk: At 11th level, in times of great need, you may teleport yourself out of danger much faster than normal. Once per day, you may use your “Walk the Planes” ability as a full-round action, rather than a one-minute action. You gain additional uses of this ability as you level up.
My only problem with this is that it's progression doesn't make sense 11th, 15th and 18th. I would have gone with 12th 15th and 18th. This would make it
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At 12th level and every 3rd level there after
Again allowing to continue into Epic Progression (unless otherwise stated).
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Master of the Planes (Ex):At 20th level you are an expert of interplanar travel. If you have been to a location before, you unerringly arrive where you desire when using your “Walk the Planes” ability. You can make a spellcraft check when an opponent uses interplanar travel to identify where they are traveling, and if you use your Walk the Planes ability afterwards, you can arrive within 20 miles of their location. You never risk landing somewhere dangerous when traveling to a plane, even if you have never been there before. Finally, the save DC to send an unwilling character on a “Walk” is increased by 2.
This is dangerously unspecific. I recommend changing this spell to make it more specific.
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If you have been to a location before, you unerringly arrive where you desire when using your “Walk the Planes” ability.
Making it circumstantial is actually brilliant, however I recommend altering it to replicate a "Greater Plane Shift".
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You can make a spellcraft check when an opponent uses interplanar travel to identify where they are traveling, and if you use your Walk the Planes ability afterwards, you can arrive within 20 miles of their location.
I'd make it a Knowledge (The Planes) check and change it to
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When an opponent uses a Conjuration [Teleportation] spell
to be more broad in it's limitation (and it even extends to Teleport and Greater Teleport )
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