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Old 03-25-2011, 04:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Disclaimer: I opted to repost this as I have done some reorganization and want to have the Dominion and Throne up at the top. I am also very much looking for mechanical advice in addition to flavor advice, so anything that could be provided on that front would be most appreciated.

First, what is Gates of Heaven? To put it briefly, it is an attempt to take over where Dicefreaks failed with their Light From On High project and give Archons the power and respect they deserve. Alternately, you can read this passage from the original thread, courtesy of Pair'O'Dice Lost:
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To make it easier to get proper feedback on the various phases of the project each part has been split into its own thread. In this particular instance; I, Iamyourking, second place in the January 2010 Monster Competition for my own angel, have taken up the task of statting out the High Castes of the Archons. The High Castes fill the Challenge Ratings between the Throne Archon's 17 and the estimated late fourties to early sixties of the unique Archons who are in charge. Think of them sort of like a combination of the aristocracy and the upper ranks of the bureaucracy; fulfilling important roles in the power structure and day to day running of Celestia. I have decided to start small (Or at least as small as CR 22 can be considered) and work my way up starting with the Principality; the weakest of the High Castes.
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Now for the Authority, the military elite of Celestia:
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Third comes the Virtue, the embodiments of the mercy and kindness that only Law can provide.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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Then the Dominions, Celestia's administrators and masters of the Principalities
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Finally the Thrones, the legislature of Heaven
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All High Caste Archons use the following rules:
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All Archons here are open for critique and proofreading, with any help appreciated.

Note: Before it comes up, it is possible that the names and lore may be changed to avoid drawing too many parallels to real world religion. The main thread has already been subject to this debate and it does not need to be repeated here.

Second Note: The Powers and Hebdomad are replacing the kerubim and seraphim respectively so that there can still be 7 levels.
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The Dominions have a lot of unused body slots for an epic threat. I would recommend semi decent stat enhancers to round out the list.
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I am trying to avert the Christmas Tree Effect by having a few powerful items rather then being festooned with less important things; as per Immortal's Handbook and Dicefreaks doctrine. The Dominion already has more items then any of them to begin with, with three, I don't intend to give it any more.

I don't suppose you have any excuse for providing absolutely no content or contribution for the last several months?
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I don't suppose you have any excuse for providing absolutely no content or contribution for the last several months?
Excuse no. Legitimate reasons yes: I was tired of starting arguments that derailed the project, like this one or the whole Dicefreaks vs WOTC ones most of which happened by accident. I also disagreed with how the project was moving forward so I decided to remove myself so you guys could get on with it.
To some it up: I thought my continued presence would be detrimental, so I got out of the way.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #7
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Well, I can't say I'm sad to see you go; although you should have formally tendered your resignation before abandoning your duties.

In any event, the titual throne is mostly complete and just needs signature abilities for each of the layers. Suggestions are still recommended.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #8
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Just to move this up a bit, I am still around and have in fact finished the Dominion. However, I'm unsure what would be iconic for the three remaining Throne powers I've got left; as I haven't been able to find a lot of information about the layers of Celestia.

In a non business related note: Look at my shiny new Virtue avatar! I'm hoping for a complete set so I can rotate between them, but this is still nice.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #9
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I'm still working on the Throne and have no intention of stopping, but it would really help if someone would acknowledge the work I'm doing and comment on it.
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I can definitely see some really cool things going on here.

For the thrones, and the remaining layers: I feel like you should go with a sort of pattern you have here;

• Lunia: Protection
• Mercuria: Destruction
• Venya: Healing
• Solania: Religion?
• Mertion: Devotion
• Jovar: Peace

For Solania: I was going to say watching, but that almost doesn't seem to fit (maybe it does? Not quite sure), but I did have an idea for the throne archon and other archons in Solania; maybe when a cleric casts Commune, and their deity is otherwise occupied, or they don't worship a deity, the Throne archon is the one who gives them their answer, or alternatively a lesser archon. It would be an interesting side to an otherwise religious study-devoted layer of celestia, the heavenly beings that reside there giving advice to the mortals who seek their guidance. I kind of want to make a class based around this, something like a Heavenly Shepherd (obviously not for the archons, but rather a class that communes with the archons that live in Solania for spiritual advice; thoughts?).

Mertion seems like the Paladin capital, so Zealotry or Devotion seem good. I am not sure how that would translate into spell effects, but maybe you could come up with something? Alternatively, or supplementarily, the Throne archon could have a theme of sacrifice? I think there are spells in the BoED that allow you to take Constitution damage to gain an effect. Oh! You could give them a sort of smite that, when they deal damage to an evildoer, they heal 2 points of Constitution damage. This combines for a sort of dual theme of retribution as well as sacrifice, synergizing for maximum flavor! I hope that made sense. It would probably have to be a bonus ability, since Burning Throne appears to only be spell effects.

As for Jovar; Peace seems ideal, here. The idea of jewels and wealth is sort of that you can't acquire them unless your world is in harmony; the addition of Sealtiel the defender as the Tome Archon means that it is further protected. The idea that you need to know peace before you can go to Chronias also has some sort of symbolism. For spell effects; something like Sanctuary, maybe? A paralyzing effect, perhaps, in addition.

I hope that helps! I really love the idea of the Throne Archons.
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #11
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Thanks, that helps a ton. I think I'm still going to try and get a sort of rough draft of Azazel first; but your suggestions are very helpful.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:51 PM   Top  -  End  -  #12
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Guess what, I'm not dead! The Throne is now finished aside from the spell-list; but since nobody really cares about that at the moment, I figured I'd show off the fact that the High Castes are now essentially done. Primary things to note are the Throne's special abilities.
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Those throne archons are beautiful.
Like, actually amazing. *Slow claps*
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #14
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Why thank you, they drew from your suggestions for inspiration.
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