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Old 02-07-2013, 01:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Default [PF] Supernatural Ability Question

Abilities with the (Su) descriptor are Supernatural Abilities. They bypass Spell Resistance, or are not subject to it. Which is pretty awesome.
There are plenty of spells which do not allow a save, but check for Spell Resistance. In Pathfinder, SR can be more difficult to bipass than 3.5

So I was wondering, what methods could one take to get certain spells as (Su) abilities?
Can a Wish/Miracle grant such a thing, even just 1/Day?
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I don't know about PF but in 3.5 there is always dweomerkeeper.
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There are feats called Minor and Major Spell Expertise which give spells you can cast as SLAs. There's also the Mage's Tattoo feat, which is solid for any specialist, and the Arcane Talent feat for non-casters. However, all of those give SLAs, and I don't think there's a way to get (Su) spells.
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Default Re: [PF] Supernatural Ability Question

Hexes are SU's, so Witch, Magus, or anyone else who can get hexes can do it.

Edit: And I think there is a feat that lets you turn a spell into a hex. Check the PFSRD
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Back in D&D3.5, there was a feat called (iirc) Supernatural Transformation that would turn one Spell-like ability into a Supernatural one. Ask your GM if you can use it?
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Can a Wish/Miracle grant such a thing, even just 1/Day?
I would allow that to work; you're essentially burning a 9th level spell just to make another spell bypass SR. That seems like a reasonable use of wish or miracle to me.
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