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Old 05-17-2012, 03:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #301
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Second Igneel's suggestion.


Does anyone else kinda wanna see a reboot/update of that cartoon? Maybe a straight to DVD release with a PG-13 rating in mind?


Oh, and as for the Valkyrie mention, I believe there also in Deity's and Demigods as these sort of high level Celestial Paladins. Which is flavor wise more what I was thinking of the Erinyes being the (Mostly.) Lawful Evil version of.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #302
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I tried my hand at this a while back with mixed results. Could I get a Siren with a half dragon template monster class.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #303
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I tried my hand at this a while back with mixed results. Could I get a Siren with a half dragon template monster class.
Could you rephrase this? I"m not exactly sure what you're asking for right now. It almost sounds like you want a monster class that's a combination of Siren and Half-dragon as opposed to a half-dragon monster class and a Siren monster class.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #304
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Sorry yes I want a combination monster class. Half Siren half Dragon. My apologies for the confusion.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #305
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Sorry yes I want a combination monster class. Half Siren half Dragon. My apologies for the confusion.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to refuse. The most I can offer is to make the Siren at some point, in which case you could add the existing half-dragon onto the Siren. While I don't mind trying to make homebrew monsters into monster classes, if I don't have a stat-block or even fluff to work with, there's just nothing I can do. I try to stick by the "Number of levels=CR" Guidline we used to go by (Unless I believe it would be detrimental, such as with the half-dragon, or going past 20 levels like with the dragons), but if I don't have a CR to work from, I pretty much have to just roll a d20 in order to determine the number of levels to give a class.

Since I also don't have any fluff to work with other than that it's half a siren, half a dragon, and it's a template...there's really just nothing I can do.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #306
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Second Igneel's suggestion.
Now that's just lazy. Think up your own! j/k

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Does anyone else kinda wanna see a reboot/update of that cartoon? Maybe a straight to DVD release with a PG-13 rating in mind?
For the longest amount of time I was subscribed to a Youtube channel that had the entire series along with like 20 other cartoons from the 80's and such. Then the entire channel got taken down...
Personally I think a remake of the cartoon would be better then most of the movies that have been released.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #307
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On the subject of the Erinyes: they're technically fallen angels/daeva, so movanic daeva would be pretty much perfect for that. Similar CR, too.
Failing that, I could definitely see the Ghaele fitting the bill.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:01 AM   Top  -  End  -  #308
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On the subject of the Erinyes: they're technically fallen angels/daeva, so movanic daeva would be pretty much perfect for that. Similar CR, too.
Failing that, I could definitely see the Ghaele fitting the bill.
Hey, long time no see.

Alright, good to know.

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For the longest amount of time I was subscribed to a Youtube channel that had the entire series along with like 20 other cartoons from the 80's and such. Then the entire channel got taken down...
Personally I think a remake of the cartoon would be better then most of the movies that have been released.
Hate to be a buzzkill, but you should probably take this to media discussions.

also, yaaaay, I'm getting that thing again where my subscriptions don't update properly.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #309
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The Sirine Is in the MM2....
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #310
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The Sirine Is in the MM2....
I know. I could make that into a class at some point, but there's just nothing I could do to make a Half-siren half-dragon template class.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #311
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Alright. Thanks though. I was just curious as to what your take on it would be. I'm not one hundred percent sure about my own so I was looking to maybe get something a little bit better that I could throw to my DM since she is letting me use the race for my character in her game.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #312
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Your best bet would be to multiclass with the individual Sirine and half dragon classes.
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #313
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Just a question based on an idea for a monster I'm probably not going to do for a while.

Would Monster classes using subsystems (Such as Tome of Battle in the case of the monster I was thinking of) be appreciated, or is it best to stick as close to core as possible, and anything not in core described in the monster?
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #314
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Just a question based on an idea for a monster I'm probably not going to do for a while.

Would Monster classes using subsystems (Such as Tome of Battle in the case of the monster I was thinking of) be appreciated, or is it best to stick as close to core as possible, and anything not in core described in the monster?
Depends. Is this an addition (e.g. giving a Ogre martial manoeuvres), or something it originally had (e.g giving an Incarnum Dragon meldshaping)? I'd say skip the former but definitely go with the latter.
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I'm incluined to agree with Gekko, though the idea of having an AFC of sorts that gives optional Martial Manuvers is definatly an idea. That way, you can make both the "Subsystems stink and ruined the game" camp and the "Subsystems rock and made 3.5 better then any edition that came after." camp both happy at once.
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Just a question based on an idea for a monster I'm probably not going to do for a while.

Would Monster classes using subsystems (Such as Tome of Battle in the case of the monster I was thinking of) be appreciated, or is it best to stick as close to core as possible, and anything not in core described in the monster?
Like Gecko said, unless the creature already had 'em, don't put 'em in. ACFs to give the option are a pretty good idea, but leave the default using the same basic ruleset as the monster itself.
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Depends. Is this an addition (e.g. giving a Ogre martial manoeuvres), or something it originally had (e.g giving an Incarnum Dragon meldshaping)? I'd say skip the former but definitely go with the latter.
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I'm incluined to agree with Gekko, though the idea of having an AFC of sorts that gives optional Martial Manuvers is definatly an idea. That way, you can make both the "Subsystems stink and ruined the game" camp and the "Subsystems rock and made 3.5 better then any edition that came after." camp both happy at once.
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Like Gecko said, unless the creature already had 'em, don't put 'em in. ACFs to give the option are a pretty good idea, but leave the default using the same basic ruleset as the monster itself.
Alright. *Rolls idea up and throws it in the trash bin*
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #318
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Alright. *Rolls idea up and throws it in the trash bin*
If it makes you feel better, I've liked your monster classes pretty much since day one.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:05 AM   Top  -  End  -  #319
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If it makes you feel better, I've liked your monster classes pretty much since day one.
Glad to hear it, and it's no big deal. I wasn't particularly attached to the idea, it just would have made a monster class that I'll eventually do somewhat simpler.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #320
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OKay, updated the Clockwork Horrors with the Dalek laser (I'd really like a better method for notifying this thread of updates to the monster classes. I don't think this is against the rules since I'm updating it, but I'd still like something better.)


Since you want me to work on the Lillend Metahuman, I'm going to work on a few other good aligned outsiders, and release things in a series, such as four good aligned, or four devils, four demons, ETC.

I also have a few new mechanics that I want to give a shot, and if you guys think they're good, I'll probably use them on all devil classes (Definitely using them on the initial ones to see the reviews.)

For when I inevitably do another dragon, I have a very....special idea for what I'm going to do.

EDIT: For a possible solution for non-monster class updates (Just changes or things like that) how about something like a public facebook page?

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Old 06-01-2012, 05:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #321
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Might need changing, that.
Oh, and the picture is dead (to me, at least).
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Might need changing, that.
Oh, and the picture is dead (to me, at least).
Yeah, thanks for pointing it out.

As for the picture, I don't know what to tell you. It's still showing up for me.
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Pic works for me. Are you accessing it from a work or school network? They might be blocking the source.
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Pic works for me. Are you accessing it from a work or school network? They might be blocking the source.
Nope. After looking into it, my antivirus just has very strange views of what constitutes as a candidate for blocking.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #326
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Alright, since I gave "Summon X" Where X is the appropriate type of Creature to the Yugoloths and Erinyes, I decided to edit it into the Succubus and Blue Slaad as well, since the original monsters have similar abilities.

I also edited the Succubus a bit more.

Sorry if the Erinyes is a little underwhelming.
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Are ye taking request's still?
If so then I request: Tartearian dragon or Verkia.(Gotta love giant evil monster demon dinos)
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:52 PM   Top  -  End  -  #328
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Are ye taking request's still?
If so then I request: Tartearian dragon or Verkia.(Gotta love giant evil monster demon dinos)
Please list your sources. I know Tarterian dragon is from Draconomicon, but I've never heard of Verkia, so I have no idea where to look.
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but I've never heard of Verkia, so I have no idea where to look.
Try here. Also quoted in the first post, within the Current Request spoiler.
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Try here. Also quoted in the first post, within the Current Request spoiler.
See that's the kind of thing you'd think I'd pay attention to.

I'll take a look at both. They're both kinda High CR, so don't expect them to be done any time soon.
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