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Old 07-15-2011, 04:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #481
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Nooo, don't look at the quick topic

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Old 07-16-2011, 10:18 AM   Top  -  End  -  #482
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Good game even though I barely played it, so I will fill the rest of this post with roles stuff most people won't read.
First of all, except with roles that actively impede allied powers or enhance enemy powers while they live, all powerroles are useful. The smallest possible power would be Ramsus's power of "You are not a villager". The ability of the person with this role is to claim it. By doing so, they can prevent mislynches by town and distract the wolves from trying to kill more powerful roles. Any "useless" town info roles may simply ignore their scans if they wish. As it is, seers should wait until they have scried enough people as wolves that they consider 62.5% (chance that someone scried as wolf is a wolf) of that number of wolves to be of more value than their life, and then claim to the scried that are 87.5% likely to be villagers. However, it is true that the seers as they are are rather weak, and do not balance Real Life. I do have a couple ideas that could empower them:
1. You could make a third role whose power is to know which seer scried truly. This could lead to many interesting problems of when to claim, and importance in which seer to claim to be.
2. You could give seers the option to, instead of scrying, help the other seer with their scry, guaranteeing its success. If both seers did this, the scry would be wasted however. For this to not break you'd either need to have the seers receive the same role PM or to make a wolf role where if they correctly state that one seer is helping another and which seer is the helper, then the help is ineffective, but to prevent them from doing this every night you'd want either for their power to not work the next time it would every time they guess incorrectly or to give them other powers and only let them do one thing (Perhaps give the Devil the ability to do this instead of scry?)
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That's what I can think of
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #483
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The smallest possible power would be Ramsus's power of "You are not a villager".
Actually, the smallest possible power would be a power role that didn't know they were a power role; they just scry as one. Highly useless in nearly every circumstance.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:53 PM   Top  -  End  -  #484
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Oh God, don't give them ideas Flea!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #485
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A few notes from the game

1) Just read the QT. Thanks for saying such nice things about me. I really appreciate it.

2) I've been the Sniper many times and usually its a tough role because I'll often use my power and kill innocents and I'll get 4 people saying in thread "Sniper, stop killing people at random!" or "Sniper, you're only making it easier for the {wolves}" So imagine my glee when I head-shotted the villainous Devil in the face! Surely, the thread will sing the praises of their unknown hero and...and...and.... no one said anything No "Good job, Sniper" not even after I passed away. I thought now surely, I'll get a "Good job, Atreyu. Thanks for taking out that devil. We'll get the rest." *SOBS*

3) Wow, this was a great game of wills. I haven't been this intrigued in what would happen after I died in at least a year. Awesome job from all the players. *claps*

4) Lex-Kat and Co makes awesome narrations!
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #486
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Atreyu, you were an awesome sniper. *Hugs the Llama* Best sniper I ever did see.

If I had an award to give, I'd give it. Maybe Ceika can make you a Sniper Llama avvie.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #487
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A few notes from the game

1) Just read the QT. Thanks for saying such nice things about me. I really appreciate it.

2) I've been the Sniper many times and usually its a tough role because I'll often use my power and kill innocents and I'll get 4 people saying in thread "Sniper, stop killing people at random!" or "Sniper, you're only making it easier for the {wolves}" So imagine my glee when I head-shotted the villainous Devil in the face! Surely, the thread will sing the praises of their unknown hero and...and...and.... no one said anything No "Good job, Sniper" not even after I passed away. I thought now surely, I'll get a "Good job, Atreyu. Thanks for taking out that devil. We'll get the rest." *SOBS*

3) Wow, this was a great game of wills. I haven't been this intrigued in what would happen after I died in at least a year. Awesome job from all the players. *claps*

4) Lex-Kat and Co makes awesome narrations!
I wanted to give you praise, but I was on the wrong team for it.

Plus cheering makes you look suspicious. >>

But as a sniper kitty, I give Atreyu an A- on his sniper grade. One of the bests out there.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #488
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Well, I can say brilliant sniping. For the sniper to hit the devil that quickly was brilliant, and I was honestly surprised by the fact that the wolves didn't lose a single other role.

You were the best Team Good Role, or the most effective one anyways.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #489
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Actually, the smallest possible power would be a power role that didn't know they were a power role; they just scry as one. Highly useless in nearly every circumstance.
Unless they scried as a wolf and interfered with a seer, they'd still be useful, to distract wolves from their true target.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #490
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Wow *wags* I....I...I'm moved *hugs the thread* Thanks, everyone!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #491
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Wait...the Devil was sniped? BRILLIANT...as you can tell I wasn't paying attention.
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Old 07-18-2011, 11:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #492
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Unless they scried as a wolf and interfered with a seer, they'd still be useful, to distract wolves from their true target.
Being scried was the only situation I could think of in which they would be useful; the point is, they can't claim they scry as anything special, so it comes down to luck instead of any tactics on their part.

Plus it's only more useful if the wolves can scry as villagers sometimes; otherwise it's a villager by another name.

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Old 07-25-2011, 12:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #493
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Game over. As promised - winners get to be role in the new game (With survivors who were active the most filling in the blanks.)

ITP Chapter III - Battle for Rakkoon

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The one change that I would make to your roles is that Lady T, since she's a neutral anyway, should really be the baner.
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Old 07-25-2011, 02:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #495
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I like being a role.
Two games in a row, I wonder if I can make it a third...
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The one change that I would make to your roles is that Lady T, since she's a neutral anyway, should really be the baner.
I agree. She deserves it.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:08 PM   Top  -  End  -  #497
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(The role of who is the Fool, and who is the Seer is randomly changed throughout the game.)
....still?
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #498
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #499
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I'm always the neutral baner!
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:51 PM   Top  -  End  -  #500
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I agree with Lady T being a nuetral baner. Also yeah, weren't we going to change the town seer/fool pair to be less useless?
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It's right in his post: he's still working on that.
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Don't worry everyone. We'll get it figured out. This time before we submit the game for recruitment.
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #503
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Je.... What? The Fiery Tower gets two roles?

But anyways. Yay, I'm a Narrator role.
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #504
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I noticed that too. We will be fixing that in edit, I believe.
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #505
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Wait.

I'm awesome enough to get two roles! No need to fix that.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:25 AM   Top  -  End  -  #506
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Nope, I'm now claiming the extra role. In the name of SCIENCE!
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Still thinking on the seer/fool rules. Will likely make a change, though haven't figure it out yet.

See note on narrator rule change.
Oh, OK... that's a bit better. Sorry about that, major spot check fail. <.<

Might I add something I came up with last night? I think 7 wolves, all power roles, is a bit too much for a ~30 person game. I had 7 power role wolves in Alchemists 1, 45 person game, and it still broke... <.<

Just an extra two cents.

EDIT: Nothing to take too seriously, I'm rambling.

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