So... why exactly were they kept apart? So no one cpuld find the separated twins...?
Also... always heed the prophecy. But be sure to read the fine print.
Yeah, keeping them separated made no sense. Especially naming the son SKYWALKER AND PUTTING HIM ON ANAKINS HOME PLANET! /huff /huff Sorry, that just always bugged me. First off, vader didnt know padme had twins right? So keeping them together under a new name would have been a much better disguise than separating them (and putting the son up like they did) I mean, I bet prince luke and princess leia organa would have done just fine on alderan. I
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
Yeah, keeping them separated made no sense. Especially naming the son SKYWALKER AND PUTTING HIM ON ANAKINS HOME PLANET! /huff /huff Sorry, that just always bugged me. First off, vader didnt know padme had twins right? So keeping them together under a new name would have been a much better disguise than separating them (and putting the son up like they did) I mean, I bet prince luke and princess leia organa would have done just fine on alderan. I
Well... it only had to make sense, when they wrote the plot backwards. In the first movie, they weren't even ment to be related. To fill one plot hole, you have to dig another.
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That's because Luke being Vader's son wasn't added until they were making Empire Strikes back. Originally Vader and Anakin Skywalker were two seperate people but the writers thought it would be interesting if they turned out to be the same guy.
Same thing happened with Luke and Leia being related. that wasn't even thought of till Return of the Jedi.
When writers start retconning in the middle of a film series plot holes tend to crop up.
The separation makes a bit of sense. Remember, Anakin was an extremely talented Jedi, so much so that people were running around declaring that he would fulfill prophecies and whatnot. It stands to reason that his children would be fairly impressive, too. The surviving Jedi would want to ensure that they'd always have at least one weapon to use against the Sith. Keeping the twins together puts all their eggs in one basket: If Vader finds them, their new hope is done for. Keeping them separate is safer: If Vader deals with one twin, he won't suspect that there's a second backup twin waiting in the wings.
The actual execution of that separation is a bit less logical, of course. Bail Organa was an outspoken critic of Palpatine's expansions of the executive branch and the formation of the Empire. He'd be first on the list when the Emperor started feeling paranoid. As for Luke, even given the EU justification that Vader will avoid Tatooine because of its emotional significance, he'd have been safer on a random Outer Rim planet. Vader could get over his issues, or the Emperor could personally look into his apprentice's old life out of paranoia. Far better to store him somewhere the Sith won't even notice than somewhere they'll notice but avoid. And, really, what's with letting him know his father's name?
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That's because Luke being Vader's son wasn't added until they were making Empire Strikes back. Originally Vader and Anakin Skywalker were two seperate people but the writers thought it would be interesting if they turned out to be the same guy.
Same thing happened with Luke and Leia being related. that wasn't even thought of till Return of the Jedi.
When writers start retconning in the middle of a film series plot holes tend to crop up.
Under those circumstances, I think they really did it quite well. That Luke had Anakins family name was the one big problem. That Obi-Wan went into hiding using his own name was stupid, but that was stupid even in the first movie all by itself and not a continuity issue.
When it got really bad was in the prequel trilogy.
Owen and Beru knew about Anakin. That didn't mean that Anakin had to actually be a native of Tatooine at all.
So Leia was adopted by an alderaanian senator, but this doesn't have to mean that said senator was the leader of the opposition faction in the parliament.
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Also, Tattoine is Hutt space. The Republic doesn't exist out there and even when the Empire eventually moves in, they've got their hands full with the local thugs, smugglers and other undesirables that inhabit population centres like Mos Eisley.
I'm sure that moisture farmers who live out in the sticks and crazy old hermits who live in sand people territory barely show up as a blip on the local stormtrooper garrion's radar (awesome fan parody videos aside).
Also, Tattoine is Hutt space. The Republic doesn't exist out there and even when the Empire eventually moves in, they've got their hands full with the local thugs, smugglers and other undesirables that inhabit population centres like Mos Eisley.
I'm sure that moisture farmers who live out in the sticks and crazy old hermits who live in sand people territory barely show up as a blip on the local stormtrooper garrion's radar (awesome fan parody videos aside).
Is that the one with the architect who loses his arm in a stupid misunderstanding with Luke?
Under those circumstances, I think they really did it quite well. That Luke had Anakins family name was the one big problem. That Obi-Wan went into hiding using his own name was stupid, but that was stupid even in the first movie all by itself and not a continuity issue.
When it got really bad was in the prequel trilogy.
Owen and Beru knew about Anakin. That didn't mean that Anakin had to actually be a native of Tatooine at all.
Wasnt owen married to anakins mother or something like that? I know he was connected to anakins mom somehow, wether it was him or his brother who married her, or his father for all I know. Anakin was most likely born on tattoine, his mother was a slave, it seems unlikely she would have wandered about the galaxy, gotten knocked up by the force, given birth, landed in hutt space, then been enslaved. Thats the sort of backstory that gets mentioned, you know?
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Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
About everyone who was looking for him knew his last name was Kenobi.
No I mean who other than the Lars family knew that the weird old guy living in the wilds was named Kenobi. He didn't seem like the sort that was going out to hang with people. maby he only told them and no one else.
No I mean who other than the Lars family knew that the weird old guy living in the wilds was named Kenobi. He didn't seem like the sort that was going out to hang with people. maby he only told them and no one else.
But Luke knew ("You mean old Ben Kenobi?"), regularly traveled into town, and didn't know it was something that had to be kept a secret.
It wouldn't have been that hard to tell Luke that his name was Ben Smith or something.
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So Leia was adopted by an alderaanian senator, but this doesn't have to mean that said senator was the leader of the opposition faction in the parliament.
To be fair, that's not just the idea the prequels came up with... Well, OK, novels-Bail-Organa was just a key member of the Rebels, but he was about as key as you get.
Today's comic reminded me of one of the things I REALLY hated as a GM... having my NPCs talk to each other. Talking to yourself is such an annoying thing to do...
Today's comic reminded me of one of the things I REALLY hated as a GM... having my NPCs talk to each other. Talking to yourself is such an annoying thing to do...
Best argument for co-dms ever. :p At least then you have someone to talk to.
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"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
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Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama
Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
I watched the original trilogy... one week ago? Two?
Now that I know who he is, I'm starting to like the D&D version of Bail. I wonder if whoever plays Leia will give a feeble attempt at mimicking his slang.
Wow... our gaming group seems to be special... Our GM (and me when I was GMing) would separate us all the time to discuss stuff ij private or groups but we never had any problems... in fact we made our Monthy Python jokes and other annoying stuff while the GM was gone not to disturbt the game. Wow, we were good players... I need a new group
Well, this seems to confirm that Anakin will be Vader. And this is also a bit creepy, a definate sign at Anakin has gone off the deep end.
Im just interested to see what kind of character vader is going to be. I mean, just because he was the dragon in the actual movies, doesnt mean he will be that way in the game here. I honestly have no idea where they are going with this.
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"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
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Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama
Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
That's because Luke being Vader's son wasn't added until they were making Empire Strikes back. Originally Vader and Anakin Skywalker were two seperate people but the writers thought it would be interesting if they turned out to be the same guy.
Same thing happened with Luke and Leia being related. that wasn't even thought of till Return of the Jedi.
When writers start retconning in the middle of a film series plot holes tend to crop up.
Yeah. And simple crushes turn into uncomfortable incest-laden moments.
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