Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread

[UrsielHauke]

Here,, there are torches on the caution barrier instead of lights or reflectors in panel 10.

[Gift Jeraff]

Originally Posted by Holy_Knight

Man, I miss that show! Between it and Batman: The Animated Series, the 90s were a golden age...

Indeed. I'm currently on a binge of 90s/late 80s animated shows.

Anywho, while I did notice that Qarr shrank at some point, I never noticed how much. He goes from around the size of a medium character's body to smaller than the average character's head. It seems like the Giant forgot to make him larger for panel 3 of #584 after it zoomed in a bit and that size just stuck.

[CloakedDancer]

Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff

Indeed. I'm currently on a binge of 90s/late 80s animated shows.

Anywho, while I did notice that Qarr shrank at some point, I never noticed how much. He goes from around the size of a medium character's body to smaller than the average character's head. It seems like the Giant forgot to make him larger for panel 3 of #584 after it zoomed in a bit and that size just stuck.

Interesting observation. I don't personally think it is that big of a change looking at the comics side by side but it certainly is noticeable. Wonder if that is what happened.

[iTookUrNick]

INNT: in comic #610 Belkar knows the time is running out because he hears the music, just like Inception! Or are they both based on something else entirely?

[Shale]

What music? He's just annoyed that mental-Shojo keeps yelling at him.

[iTookUrNick]

Originally Posted by Shale

What music? He's just annoyed that mental-Shojo keeps yelling at him.

Panel #9, Shojo's comment.

[Pheehelm]

That comic came out two years before Inception did.

[Ranzear]

Originally Posted by Pheehelm

That comic came out two years before Inception did.

I would consider it hilarious in hindsight then. I always noted Shinjo pointing out the bard's music playing, but never made the Inception jump :D

[Ron Miel]

Originally Posted by iTookUrNick

INNT: in comic #610 Belkar knows the time is running out because he hears the music, just like Inception! Or are they both based on something else entirely?

Doctor Katz.

You know what the music means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4B26...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xerr...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYYt-...eature=related

[Kish]

Originally Posted by Ranzear

Shinjo

And here I thought Shinjo was gone for good.

[CloakedDancer]

Originally Posted by Pheehelm

That comic came out two years before Inception did.

Regardless of the Inception connection I always found that scene to be very cinematic in its construction. I could see the entire scene playing out in my head, and definitely have wanted to see it in some kind of actual film form since then.

[Caractacus]

Originally Posted by Kish

And here I thought Shinjo was gone for good.

He's keeping a watch on the Prime Material plane for his son Hojo...

[Feytalist]

Originally Posted by Caractacus

He's keeping a watch on the Prime Material plane for his son Hojo...

His nephew, technically.

Here, apparently dwarves have two livers? Never noticed that before.

[Tass]

Originally Posted by Feytalist

His nephew, technically.

No, you are thinking of Hinjo and Shojo. :)

[Barstro]

Elan's magic is blue, despite his music being green.

[rewinn]

In 611, Mr. Scruffy does serious damage to the caster and to the dwarf.

[Caractacus]

Originally Posted by rewinn

In 611, Mr. Scruffy does serious damage to the caster and to the dwarf.

That's very well caught - I had always seen the injuries to the caster, but had never seen those horrific striations across the dwarf's chest before!

Those are adamantine Claws of Death right there!

[Bluepaw]

Thanks to the OotS trivia thread, I just noticed that there is a demon roach version of Rich Uncle Pennybags, standing on a Monopoly house, no less...

[Phishfood]

Originally Posted by rewinn

In 611, Mr. Scruffy does serious damage to the caster and to the dwarf.

Nice catch.

Turns out we've already seen housecat vs commoner?

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On closer inspection, Belkar also landed a stab. Double team.

[MoonCat]

And you know, he was probably a thief.

[Barstro]

Originally Posted by rewinn

In 611, Mr. Scruffy does serious damage to the caster and to the dwarf.

Sadly, no proof of that. Mr. Scruffy certainly tangled with them, but neither of them get Xs for eyes until Belkar gets to them. There is a serious (if line width matters) gash to the caster when/after Belkar flips past that is not seen while Mr. Scruffy is engaged, and Belkar's dagger is seen going into the dwarf's head.

[Gift Jeraff]

I just got that Gannji's "son of a mongoose" line was a reptilian twist on calling someone a son of a snake.

[Caractacus]

Originally Posted by rewinn

In 611, Mr. Scruffy does serious damage to the caster and to the dwarf.

Originally Posted by Barstro

Sadly, no proof of that. Mr. Scruffy certainly tangled with them, but neither of them get Xs for eyes until Belkar gets to them. There is a serious (if line width matters) gash to the caster when/after Belkar flips past that is not seen while Mr. Scruffy is engaged, and Belkar's dagger is seen going into the dwarf's head.

I don't understand.

Rewinn said 'serious damage'. You don't get Xs for 'serious damage'. Surely he should have said, 'Mr Scruffy Kills the caster and dwarf' if that's what he had meant.

Secondly, if you take several hits, some might call that 'serious damage' even if it wouldn't stop a dragon, giant or 10th-level fighter-type.

I count no fewer than seven (7) hits on the caster by Mr Scruffy before Belkar gets involved (though some are v.small). Now, likely Mr Scruffy does very little real damage, true, but if you accept the phrase 'serious damage' as meaning in its context 'wow, loads of hits and probably quite a few hit points gone', then I think we should allow the praise for Mr Scruffy to stand.

Further, the two sets of triple lines across the dwarf are from Mr Scruffy. Whether there primarily for comic effect (of a kind) or not, they nonetheless stand for a good double hit by Mr Scruffy dealing a few hit points of damage each.

I don't think anyone is arguing that Mr Scruffy actually killed them - especially since we can clearly see that Belkar does...

[Gift Jeraff]

I just noticed that in War and XPs, the Giant made Redcloak's holy symbol/Xykon's phylactery white in strips #368-376 in order to match the redesign it gets in #414 (and retroactively in SoD). However, there's also a goof because he skips #331 yet

Spoiler

bonus strip #320a has the white holy symbol/phylactery.

So, in-comichronologically speaking, Redcloak's holy symbol goes from white to black to white to black to white. (Well, it's an art upgrade, so I guess we're supposed to pretend it was always drawn that way.)

[Barstro]

Originally Posted by Caractacus

I don't understand.

Rewinn said 'serious damage'. You don't get Xs for 'serious damage'. Surely he should have said, 'Mr Scruffy Kills the caster and dwarf' if that's what he had meant.

Secondly, if you take several hits, some might call that 'serious damage' even if it wouldn't stop a dragon, giant or 10th-level fighter-type.

I take back my prior statement to the extent that "serious damage" does not equal "death". I do not concede that several scratches constitutes "serious damage".

That being said, you are correct, I misunderstood the original post and Mr. Scruffy certainly did an impressive amount of attacks and possibly helped enable Belkar to make his attacks.

[EvilSnail]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0397.html

Durkon says V rolles natural 2 on dispell magic check, since 2 isn't natural therefore it probably refers to V magic abilities being poor

[Ron Miel]

Originally Posted by Barstro

I take back my prior statement to the extent that "serious damage" does not equal "death". I do not concede that several scratches constitutes "serious damage".

What about #780?

Is it possible that Mr Scruffy did the same amount of damage to the caster, but the caster had enough HPs to survive the first attack. And that he died from the combined damage of two attacks, from Belkar and Scruffy together.

[The Linker]

Originally Posted by EvilSnail

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0397.html

Durkon says V rolles natural 2 on dispell magic check, since 2 isn't natural therefore it probably refers to V magic abilities being poor

...What?

2 isn't... natural? Huh?

[Raddish]

Not anymore it isnt, 2 was bullied by 3 and 7 and in despair signed itself up for genetic trials and is now mutated beyond the point of no return.

[factotum]

Originally Posted by The Linker

...What?

2 isn't... natural? Huh?

Got me baffled as well. EvilSnail, when someone rolls a "natural" anything, it means that's the actual number they got on the dice before any modifications due to skills or stats are made--I'm not sure what you think it means, but a natural 2 is as possible as a natural 1, 9, or 20 (on a d20, at any rate).