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Old 09-19-2011, 04:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #451
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I think what he means is that it's unusual phrasing- unless it's a 1 or a 20, one doesn't usually say 'natural'.
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I think what he means is that it's unusual phrasing- unless it's a 1 or a 20, one doesn't usually say 'natural'.
...That's...

There is no reason to presume Durkon thinks there are only two natural, and 18 unnatural, numbers on a d20. This is a mode of thought I have not encountered before today and which makes very little sense to me. Vaarsuvius rolled a 2. Durkon either does not know what the result after all modifiers was or chose to mention the rolled number instead. Vaarsuvius rolled badly, and Vaarsuvius did not successfully dispel.
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #453
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I take back my prior statement to the extent that "serious damage" does not equal "death". I do not concede that several scratches constitutes "serious damage".

That being said, you are correct, I misunderstood the original post and Mr. Scruffy certainly did an impressive amount of attacks and possibly helped enable Belkar to make his attacks.
On the internets, misunderstandings are a common but sticky sort of glue that can bind long conversations together!

Perhaps I should have used "noticeable" rather than "serious" - Mr. Scruffy did noticeable damage to his targets, but whether it was light or serious damage depends on definitions and is hard to tell anyway. I was pleased to see him being effective in combat!
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I just noticed that the control group in 545 has only six members. This might not affect the statistical validity of the experiment, but it's rather sloppy of Redcloak. Perhaps the size of the tower tops limited the total number of sacrificial victims?
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #454
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I just noticed that the control group in 545 has only six members. This might not affect the statistical validity of the experiment, but it's rather sloppy of Redcloak. Perhaps the size of the tower tops limited the total number of sacrificial victims?
I propose that the two hobgoblins closest to the edge of the tower are also part of the control group. Since Redcloak, as of that strip, actually cared for the hobgoblins as people, I would guess that those particular hobgoblins had been convicted of capital crimes, such as Aiding the Resistance.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:38 AM   Top  -  End  -  #455
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:44 AM   Top  -  End  -  #456
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:11 AM   Top  -  End  -  #457
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I guess they really do like Gouda.
Hobgoblins liking gouda is a running gag in the comic since about the time they were introduced. Nothing new about that.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #458
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Some of us, myself included, had never noticed said running gag before.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #459
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I like how this is also a hark-back to Goblin Dan's thriving business...
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #460
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I recently realized Durkon hasn't been allowed to successfully cast holy word. Twice. I wonder if Elan isn't onto something, and the word itself will be humorous.
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Old 09-20-2011, 01:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #461
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Hobgoblins liking gouda is a running gag in the comic since about the time they were introduced. Nothing new about that.
This is the Things You Never Noticed thread, man. That's like going into a Video Games You Found Hard thread and saying "You're wrong, those were easy."

Anyway, I completely missed all the gouda stuff. I had no idea that was a running gag going on.

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Old 09-20-2011, 02:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #462
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This is the Things You Never Noticed thread, man. That's like going into a Video Games You Found Hard thread and saying "You're wrong, those were easy."
I think there’s a bit of a Fan Myopia thing going on. A fair number of people did notice the gouda thing and discussed it in certain threads. Since it was discussed on these boards, it is easy to think everyone here should already know about them.

Of course, then, you have to realize that very few people can read absolutely every post on this board…

Anyway, I will say that I would have missed the gouda thing if not for prior discussion—either on these boards or on TV Tropes, I can’t remember which first directed me to the original strips.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #463
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I recently realized Durkon hasn't been allowed to successfully cast holy word. Twice. I wonder if Elan isn't onto something, and the word itself will be humorous.
Hey, nice catch! Can't believe I missed the first one.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:59 AM   Top  -  End  -  #464
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I like how this is also a hark-back to Goblin Dan's thriving business...
I hadn't remembered to put Goblin Dan together with this: even though I remembered him - I just didn't make the connection explicitly in my head. thanks!


P.S. Surely Durkon's Holy Word is 'BEER!' No?
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...That's...

There is no reason to presume Durkon thinks there are only two natural, and 18 unnatural, numbers on a d20. This is a mode of thought I have not encountered before today and which makes very little sense to me. Vaarsuvius rolled a 2. Durkon either does not know what the result after all modifiers was or chose to mention the rolled number instead. Vaarsuvius rolled badly, and Vaarsuvius did not successfully dispel.
The reason that "Natural 1" and "Natural 20" are used so much is because there are special rules for rolling that number on the dice, and not for any of the other numbers.

Also, Vaarsuvius may have had so many bonuses that "I can dispell on anything but a 2." So of course he rolls a 2.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #466
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Until now, I never realized why it was amusing that Belkar was unable to successfully make a Wild Empathy check with Windstriker.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #467
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Until now, I never realized why it was amusing that Belkar was unable to successfully make a Wild Empathy check with Windstriker.
I don't get it. Why?
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #468
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Because back then, he wasn't actually capable of empathy of any sort.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #469
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Actually...

Belkar certainly lacked empathy, but the best ranger alive couldn't control a paladin's mount.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #470
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Belkar certainly lacked empathy, but the best ranger alive couldn't control a paladin's mount.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #471
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I just realized Belkar and Haley know Redcloak's name. Which should be much less of a surprise, since Redcloak's face was all over the city formerly known as Azure.

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Belkar certainly lacked empathy, but the best ranger alive couldn't control a paladin's mount.
Couldn't one do so if the mount suffered sufficient ability damage to Intelligence?
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:32 AM   Top  -  End  -  #472
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that, and his name is the same as his description
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #473
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The most likely holy word for dwarf clerics ...
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #474
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I just noticed that you can still see the "Are we getting paid enough?" chart in Enor's hand as he's walking away from the blade barrier.
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that, and his name is the same as his description
And if you want to know why, read SOD. Yes, there's a very good reason why the goblin high priest calls himself "Redcloak".
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #476
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Don't know if this has been said before, but in this strip, it's assumed Roy sleeps in his armor. Shouldn't he be fatigued the next day? He's wearing his armor.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:58 AM   Top  -  End  -  #477
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Don't know if this has been said before, but in this strip, it's assumed Roy sleeps in his armor. Shouldn't he be fatigued the next day? He's wearing his armor.
Endurance feat. Indicating that his armor is light (unlikely) or medium.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:35 AM   Top  -  End  -  #478
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In strip 428, second page, one can see the text "swooosh" allready in panel four. It is hard to see, almost invisible, but placed over the heads of Hinjo and Roy.

Btw, the wind from the dragon wings is so strong it affects the crown Roy wears around his neck
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #479
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Durkon says Roy and Julia have the same eyes. However, Roy and Julia's eyes are mirrored. It's most noticeable in panel 7 of #364.

It's just weird because you'd expect a line like that to be one of OOTS's many self-referential art jokes.
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:35 AM   Top  -  End  -  #480
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In strip 428, second page, one can see the text "swooosh" allready in panel four. It is hard to see, almost invisible, but placed over the heads of Hinjo and Roy.

Btw, the wind from the dragon wings is so strong it affects the crown Roy wears around his neck
Wow that is really hard to see. I had to adjust the brightness on my monitor just to find it. Nice catch!
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