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Old 06-17-2011, 01:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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The OOC.

Will be updated with houserules, etc.

The IC has begun! Go here for the first post. Please post as well!

For now, welcome to the players and items to deal with:

- Niche overlap. Please resolve this if you expect it to be an issue. I'll edit in my impressions when I have more time.

- Character creation. Well advanced already. Yay!

- 'Open' thread. While I'd much prefer that players (and I) be the only ones ot post in the IC thread, I'm fond of onlookers (having been one before). Any objections to onlookers posting in the OOC? Similarly, if you want to post about this game elsewhere (and moan about my ST skills, perhaps), feel free.

- EDIT 2: Vote done! Niamh, queen-to-be of Drayne is the Monarch!

-EDIT: Also, please post?

Welcome again!

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Old 06-17-2011, 10:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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Not sure if I should be posting here, but I've answered your latest question here. and added a couple more questions. I'll try and get more up tomorrow.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:59 AM   Top  -  End  -  #3
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Heh I would have figured others would have posted. My sheet is nearly complete. (Have to figure out such things like those shaping combat stuff but I can do that with a program/pdf auto calc sheet. XD Otherwise, Charms.)

So Lix is my nearly niche overlap person? (Or vice versa ^^) Anyway worry not, apparently I'm heavily investing in two places. Cup and Shaping stance. There are only like 2 Sword Charms I'm looking at atm but I'll likely just catch them upon XP getting. ^^ I'm going to also check Staff and Ring, I gave them a glance but not too deep looks. Cup so far has the starting places I want to have)

Now with that said (and I'm tired I should go back to sleep) Onlookers posting in the OOC? I... I have no objection but I might find it odd.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
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All right, just trying to find the base sheet.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:45 AM   Top  -  End  -  #5
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I should probably subscribe to this. Here's my sheet progress thus far:

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Old 06-19-2011, 05:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #6
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #7
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Still trying to figure out the rules.

In any case, I feel that I should post my backstory.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #8
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Ganurath: looks good so far. Do note that your Gullet capacity is 5, not 0.

Myl: I only count 8 charms chosen in your sheet - post-errata, Fair Folk get 10! You've also listed 4 dots worth of specialties, when only 3 are allowed without bonus points - and could you differentiate between Favored and Caste abilities? The former (3) get 2 bonus dots and can go to 7, while the latter (5) are chosen from your two castes, get 1 bonus dot only, and can go up to 6.

Leliel: feel free to ask if there's something that seems unclear (and specific. While saying "All of GWM, errata included" is technically correct, it's not helpful).

All: IC post should be up soon. I'll update the top post with its coordinates when this occurs.

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Old 06-19-2011, 10:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #9
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Myl: I only count 8 charms chosen in your sheet - post-errata, Fair Folk get 10! You've also listed 4 dots worth of specialties, when only 3 are allowed without bonus points - and could you differentiate between Favored and Caste abilities? The former (3) get 2 bonus dots and can go to 7, while the latter (5) are chosen from your two castes, get 1 bonus dot only, and can go up to 6.
Fixed the specialties. I count 10 charms. ^^ The 2 Excellencies perhaps you missed? And noted on the abilities. Marked and noted.

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Old 06-19-2011, 11:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #10
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Ganurath: looks good so far. Do note that your Gullet capacity is 5, not 0.
I don't have any copies of the Gullet Charm yet, I just put that up for future use and in case others used my sheet as a guideline. Backstory and Intimacies are up, so barring complications my sheet is done.

Questions: Any objection to my Shaping Armor and Mutant Warleader already being evoked, with the latter stored in Elsewhere? Also, reading the Elite Soldier in Core leads me to believe they have Resources 3 that gets knocked to 0 by spending. Can my Mutant Warleader knock that down to 2 with different equipment, and only count it as Resources 2 for purposes of how many superior items he gets? I'm thinking Fine Hammer and Perfect Buff Jacket, along with a Buckler. Give him a bit of an ogrish look, with a hooded cloak with eyeslits and a rusty hammer and shield decorated with ominous runes...
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
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Indeed. I have been careless in my comments!

Myl: correct on the charm numbers. My bad.

Ganurath: I confused Gullet and Soul Digestion. My mistake.

You armor is yours (motes attuned), so you can evoke it from Elsewhere (or banish it) for 1 mote.

Your warleader is not an artifact, so you need to evoke it. This costs gossamer to do.

Gossamer 3 gives you the equivalent of Resources 5 in Creation, so reasonable equipment for your minion is a perfectly sensible request.
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #12
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With only a few minor changes, my sheet:(and just in time for the IC thread I see)
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
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Dragnar:

- A fairly considerable distance the East, there are three Freeholds that have been formed relatively recently, and cheerfully gone to war and intrigue against one another. They are the Grove of Silent Butterflies, the Hundred Hungers of the Honest Man, and the Cage of Sorrowful Limbs. One of them trusts you so much as to provide you with a pennant. One was king enough to host your show when you passed through. As to the last... well, you're in Drayne for many reasons.

Feel free to pick which is which!

- What action causes Heart Stealing Kiss to activate? Do note that its range is somewhat limited, and it activates at most once per scene. And it's an 'attack' of some sort, so a thematically appropriate roll will be involved (and will depend on the Attributes and Abilities of its lorekeeper, of course).

- Subversion and Transformation Artifice does not transform people, only animals (and people transformed into animals are still people). Furthermore, it grants mutations, not Mutation-keyword Fair Folk charms, so Ordinary Object Conjuration is out.

- What actions trigger the effects of the Whip?

- For the Cloak, the way the errata is written, you always get the same item with an Inward Facing Oneiromancy. This means that if the tent is ripped up, it'll stay damaged until fixed (or the spell is recast, possibly). For tickets, a large enough collection of tickets is fine, but people shredding theirs will have an impact. Inward Facing seems meant for personal augmentation (always have a knife on hand, or some such) while Outward Facing is more concerned with affecting others and the world at large.

- While the letter of the errata permits reflexively calling a palace at hand and at will for 1 point, I think I'll just say no to that particular bit of madness.

- What is the Ultimate Document?
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What is the Ultimate Document?
Standard artifact from Oeandol Codex. It is a paper that can shift, with mote expediture, into any document You wish. For a scene, if memory serves.
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Lets see here...
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:06 AM   Top  -  End  -  #16
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Eh. I'm being grumpy and sticking to the rules perhaps more than I should. The point is to have fun, not poke at every hole available.

So...

Oneiromancy - for Outward Facing Oneiromancies built on 1-point Assumptions, I'm going to go with a range of "close up". Not direct contact, and not a numeric value. More a matter of theme, as these are Fair Folk we're dealing with: if you expect to hit more than a dozen or so people all the time, you're probably going too far. This makes them entirely useable for combat, of course. With real restrictions I'll allow more people / bigger areas ("Must be used inside a circus tent" counts. "Must be used while standing on one leg" does not. Not does "Must be used on Calibration", because having a spell that is utterly useless or utterly powerful is boring to the players).

Bestial Transformation does not turn people into animals. A commoner fueling Bestial Transformation to turn people into horses wouldn't have enough mutation points to do so (Gazelle's Pace and nothing else) - yet there is an Illusion effect that covers up the details. "Yes, horses can play the piano - see Uncle Bob, there?"

Make an Outward Facing Oneiromancy with tickets and circus paraphernalia, and your supply never runs out - it just takes a little more time to conjure each bit.

The Unimpeachable Evidence

Sometimes, mortals manage to track the activities of the Fair Folk and try to bring them to trial. It is completely incomprehensible why the Creation-born blame soul eating on the one person in town with pointy ears, a habit of asking people for their dreams, and an aversion to cold iron. Thus, the Evidence was created, a sheaf of papers adequately proving whatever their master says.

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Assumption of Dreams and Passion (trustworthy documents)
Untouchable Performer Technique (it is very difficult to incite ill feelings about the owner of the Evidence)
Fall of Night Shadows the Truth (people confronted with the Evidence forget the details of what they saw, simply recalling that it was very convincing.
Beguilement (anyone seeing the Evidence will find it extremely difficult to believe it false).


The Foundation of Empire

Many years ago, a noble and heroic expedition of Dragonbloods set forth to take and tame the Wyld. Laughing, they defeated the monsters that rose before them. With might and wrath, they scoured the lands of all threats to the Creation-born, and planted their banner where once a fey tower of bronze and and feathers stood. Then the people came, and reveled in the riches of the land, while their masters dreamed of the taxes they would raise.

That was the beginning of the end. To collect taxes, some administration was required, and the immigrants enthusiastically adopted the methods of the Realm. Then they began forming committees of their own, to solve the niggling problems that arose, passing on crucial lessons learned while taming the still Wyld infested land. And the paperwork grew, each new form essential, understandable, irreplaceable and utterly necessary.

Soon, the new kingdom found itself importing paper and ink from afar. The Dragonbloods consulted their maps, reviewed the relevant forms, and conquered the Wyld woods near at hand, turning fey trees into pulp and lumber, dead behemoths into ink an quills. And the paperwork grew. And grew. Each new increase critical to the survival of the new land, consuming more time and energy as it did so.

That kingdom is gone now, returned to the Wyld in a frenzy of burning and manic destruction. But the Foundation remains, for those who'd build an empire and need to know how to do so.

1-dot Outward Facing Oneiromancy
Assumption of Dreams and Passion (important documents that must be read and filled in detail)
Ordinary Object Conjuration (new and different forms. By the cubic foot, with appendices, caveats, cross references and corrections to one another)
Manacles of Virtue (enhances the Conviction of anyone determined to finish the paperwork)
Heart Stealing Kiss (devours the will to live of anyone dealing with the accursed forms)
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Hmm... are you sure about bestial transformation just being an illusion? I might be wrong(quite likely in fact), but looking at the errata it appears to act rather differently in an outward-facing spell.
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This Charm may be incorporated into inward-facing dreams for two points, or outward-facing glamours for three points. Outward-facing glamours transform characters who undertake a certain sort of action specified during the creation of the spell into animals for one day per dot of the lorekeeper’s Essence.

Also, fixed the other noted problems already:
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Subversion and Transformation affects mundane animals - not quite a category that includes transformed mortals.

(XX) Transformation specifies that it disguises the transformed being as whatever it is transformed into - and that said disguise is perfect, barring sufficiently high Abilities and Essence. So it's not a keyword-Illusion effect, but that's a good way of thinking of the overall result since you're unlikely to get enough mutation points to make the disguise complete.


More to the point, might I encourage people to post? The IC is feeling lonely, and the niggling details can (I hope) be resolved once the action has started.
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I shall be posting soonish. ^^
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More to the point, might I encourage people to post? The IC is feeling lonely, and the niggling details can (I hope) be resolved once the action has started.
Heh. Certainly. I'll post shortly.

Still slightly confused about Bestial transformation(Like how, while the charm certainly does what you say reading it... the errata's note for outward facing spells gives a COMPLETELY different effect.) I'll probably just change the spell a bit, use something less confusing.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:36 AM   Top  -  End  -  #21
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I vote for Monarch to be boy & girl nearly indentical twins. Nobody can tell them apart without thorough examination once they start acting "identical" and dress up to it.

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Sorry ST, but I prefer to assault the bandits with Fox's charisma first. And I have to have my Fox Priestess around ... knowing myself only Old Realm.

Anyone up to creation of the first Chaos Cultists here ?
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #22
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Extras are there to be disposed of, as is often the case in Exalted. That said, you are all blessed with senses beyond human norm, so the bandits are still a ways off. Rushing to get to the appetizers first might be construed as being rude. Or not.

In any case, I'm declaring some delay occurs between chattering as a group and meeting the ruffians. Just in case.
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So Lix is my nearly niche overlap person? (Or vice versa ^^) Anyway worry not, apparently I'm heavily investing in two places. Cup and Shaping stance. There are only like 2 Sword Charms I'm looking at atm but I'll likely just catch them upon XP getting. ^^ I'm going to also check Staff and Ring, I gave them a glance but not too deep looks. Cup so far has the starting places I want to have)
Shouldn't be a problem; I'm very much focussed on the Sword part, flavourwise at least.

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Old 06-22-2011, 10:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #24
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Ok, ST. Lesson learned.

I guess Fox will have to backpedal somewhat.

EDIT: Sorry, it looks like till Sunday my internet will be shaky at best so it might be that I won't post till Monday. Apologies.
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Getting there. There's the mutation points to allocate and such, and I have unspent bonus points-10, I think.

Oh yeah, and the sheet is a pdf. How do you post a pdf on the boards-if you can at all?
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Lix: looks nice!

One thing, though: the artifact-3 background requires that you have at least four 1-dot artifacts. And, per errata, you are limited to 3 dots (= artifact background) of non-Grace Magic artifacts.

Gossamer Wing Flight is now a permanent Charm, with no cost. Thus saving you some gossamer.

What do you want out of the Transcendent Phoenix Pinions anyway? Flight comes from Gossamer Wing Flight (or an Oneiromancy / Adjuration with same), extra speed can be gained with Wings (combined with Gossamer Wing Flight) (from Charm via charm with Fantastic Grotesquerie Shell or Elemental Transformation / from an inward Oneiromancy via Transformation / from an Adjuration) or Racing Dragon Speed (Adjuration or Charm). Bonuses to dodge are Surpassing Excellence (Charm / Adjuration), Sovereign Air Shape (Charm / outward Oneiromancy), Rarefied Air of Inevitable Victory (Charm / inward Oneiromancy)...


Leliel: good to hear. Not sure about how / if pdf format works. Worst case scenario, upload it somewhere and provide a link, I suppose.

Mutation points? That would probably be from Grace magic, I suspect.
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...how did I forget that I had wings and take pinions?
I guess I shall have to take some more grace magic then... (gulp)
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #28
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Lix: feel free to ask if you need help with making things!


All: Sorry if I'm being too chatty with the bandits. They're fun, but I'll try to keep it down.

And you are most welcome to take them if you want - it saves me some time creating their dialog!
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Hmm... is there a way I could get something with an effect similar to the Spirit charm Essence Bite?
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Heart-Stealing Kiss, put it on Your Daiklave and all foes smashed will lose will to fight Your beaty.^^

And Yes, I had a small window. Lix, would You be against becoming my fox's companion ?

Meshlum and Co-Players I found something interesting:
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