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Old 08-22-2011, 11:20 PM   Top  -  End  -  #151
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If gentle Meschlum allows, I would like to follow Ganu's suggestion and bite Voice's Ring.

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Also, I'm built for hitting things, not shaping things, so I've been taking a back seat and watching the Shenanigans here.
Lixie, Sword Combat for ye then. It is just like normal attack, but You have more ... freedom in describing effects of it.^^
And do not forget, that with Your elaborate descriptions, reliable Wyld Stunting isn't out of question.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:15 AM   Top  -  End  -  #152
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One of the annoying clauses on Shaping conflict is that once a foe has been defeated in one way, it is thereafter immune to damage from that front until enough time has passed.

Thus, further Ravishing of the Voice is impossible at this moment. On the other hand, you can still try to Vex it (take its stuff), or Incumber it (force it perform tasks for you). I don't expect it to be too hard, as the Voice has certainly been shown who its betters are - and may even cooperate without requiring force.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:37 AM   Top  -  End  -  #153
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Exactly. Ravishing hits the Cup. Incumbering hits the Ring. He's trying to get a task out of it.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:42 AM   Top  -  End  -  #154
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Ah yes. Biting tends to be something that feels a bit more Cup-like to me, but it's not a big deal.

Let's see what the dice have to say: (7d10)[9][1][2][4][8][9][5](38). Staff Shaping can be nice because once you spill over into other sorts of damage, you're still doing Staff damage, with possibly lower Soak.

Edit: Not enough to bring the Voice around to pledging to anything, but any reasonable requests will be considered and likely accepted - recovering from Shaping damage takes a long time, and being vulnerable while doing so isn't fun.

State your demand and we'll see how it goes!

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:44 AM   Top  -  End  -  #155
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Yes. Ganurath, I'm trying to force the guy to ... lemme think, transform into small green troll and became Your, Toady ?

This way You'll owe Fox a favor, in case other Raksha attacks him.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #156
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Amusing. Would be workable, though Incumberances are tasks rather than behaviors - so "Present yourself as a toad in my court for the next month / season / century" is fine. "Become a toad" is not (or will be caught in the letter of the law, and last for a scene at best).
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #157
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If you can make him do something for you, why are you making him a toad and not something else?
Say... a fox?
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #158
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If you can make him do something for you, why are you making him a toad and not something else ? Say... a fox ?
Because that would be expected, Lixie. ^^
And in war or love doing the unexpected give You victory. Making Voice a minion of Rulenizo would make her slightly indebted to Fox. Then Fox could safely negotiate exchange of favors with her ... and in case he goes overboard she might forgive him as a favor's repayment.

In short, conquest trough making friends, fluffy animals and other nonsense that have zero chance of suceeding.

And ... please talk to Fox a bit, everybody who don't talk with my guy make him nervous and paranoid.

Meschlum, I have a big favor to ask of You. How would You act, given my Fox and Bordermarches strenght Waypoint Staffed into submission ... and having mere 10 to 16 hours to act, to make this thing Solar-wyldhumping resistant ?

We have whole Nexus around us. Fox have retinue of 10 Entertainers and 10 Workers, and one Warrior.

Let's say You have all gossamer You might need (I got around 10 points).

My initial thought is to make the Waypoint's time-dilated when compared to Creation. In a way that will make time flow much, much faster inside. I thought about making a Heroic Worker who could use Principle of Worlds efficiently for this purpouse.

But to be serious, I might be forced to defend the place from fairly anti-Raksha specced Solar puncher, two Alchemicals (including one Alchie ... Calcifier-sorcerer) and Solar sorcerer. My initial thought was to spam Wee Folks:

Fairy Queens (Homonoculi that can spawn Poppets instead of poison)
Fairy Princessess (Poppets that can spawn Mannikins instead of poison)
Fairies (Manikins that can fly instead of poison)

I would mess around with the abilities to make Queens and Princessess competent in warfare and mangament. And Fairies would be better at shooting than hand-to-hand. My naive thought is that arrows the Fairies shoot can be of all kinds. Including incendary, exploding and poisonous.

I'll build You a temple anyway.
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #159
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Hm.

Tampering with time rates tends to draw ST ire, and mess with the setting.

1) Get a Chancel. This gives you 4+ waypoints, anywhere.
1.a) Get a 2+ dot Chancel. This gives you enough waypoints to create a Freehold. Freeholds enable social attacks on intruders with a nasty amount of automatic successes (6+).
1.b) A Freehold can become an Unshaped. Which should work fairly well as a distraction.
2) Poppet spam is nice. Essence 2, and on doing damage they reduce Dex pools by 1. Score enough hits, and your foes are paralyzed - as a Crippling effect, which they may not be prepared for.
2.a) An Adjuration with Imposition of Law for Coordinating Attacks gets you through a lot of DV. Poppets can use missile weapons.
2.b) An Adjuration with Shuffling the Pieces lets you spawn more as they kill people. Give them Graces so they can attune to the Adjuration en masse, and let them loose. This is gossamer intensive.
2.c) As an extension to the above (and this is not my trick), use Behemoth Forging Meditation to grant obedient mortals the Awakened Essence mutation. Kill them with Shuffling the Pieces (possibly via a behemoth), and you have more poppets at no cost to yourself.
3) Avoid them. Have a behemoth with Assumption of Dreams and Passion attack them, let them kill it, and watch them leave 'victoriously'.
4) An outward-facing Oneiromancy with Bestial Transformation is basically an instant kill if they don't have Shaping defenses up. Or it depletes their mote pool.
5) Fantasies and Translucent Dream Sheathing Technology are more 'have Shaping defenses or die' options, as is an Oneiromancy with Heart Stealing Kiss set to willpower.
6) Vex them. Present yourself (or a fantasy thereof) as a mortal trying to reclaim a treasure from the Evil Raksha. Watch them succeed in the conflict, with you on their side. Walk away with a perfectly stolen artifact. This can be risky.
7) Divide and Conquer. Use Ring Shaping to split them up, have minions under Assumption of Dreams and Passion join them and try to kill them. Have other minions under Assumption of Dreams and Passion join them and try to help them. Have them meet each other and waste motes trying to kill or identify each other.
8) Combat Beast - a high dot Behemoth set for intensive combat can require significant amounts of perfect defenses / attacks to overcome. Especially with gossamer armor to shore up its soak to ~40 (~33 with piercing).
9) Missiles. A behemoth with Assumption of the Land's / City's Heart can unleash ranged attacks on everyone in its area (via Luminous Exhalation), until its core is killed. Said core can be miles away.
10) Everything at once. Get mortals, use Soul Carving Artifice to create the Behemoths / Oneiromancies / Fair Folk / minions you need. They only last for one scene, but so what? You can do it again next scene.
11) Negotiate. You can do a lot more with this than they can, and are willing to deal so long as they let you be.
12) Give them things. Grant them a Sword Grace, and then lose a Sword shaping conflict over an Adjuration. They now own an Adjuration that (if used and attuned to) turns them into a taint on the land with no will or mobility (Assumption of the Land's Heart). Go break them, or leave them as is. Warning: abusive.
13) Fly. Settle in 200 yards overhead and pepper them with missile fire, or have a nap. Gossamer Wing Flight is easy to get, and means you're in charge of the battle. Use decoys with Assumption of Dreams and Passion to soak all the expensive attack spells / rare ammunition / high mote attacks.
14) Change the environment. The place is now under water. All of it. Can they breathe the stuff?
15) Combos! Hide deep under water. 'Hide' amulets of Water Breathing (Adjurations) which they can claim in order to go after you. Make sure the Adjuration is completed before they reach you, while they're under water. Or just have its 'second stage' activate and trigger Assumption of the Land's Heart. Inert paperweights are always nice.
16) Let them fight something worse. Create a nasty looking monster, have it rampage inside and outside the Wyld zone, offer to help them against the Evil Fey who is intent on creating more. Shed a tear inside as they slaughter one of your mooks and charge you with ensuring the place remains safe from now on.
17) Give them something more important to do. With Society Forging Charms (and the occasional curse if they lack Shaping defenses), you can have massive Allies, Followers, Influence, Backing, and so on. Send your new friends to go after their loved ones, sources of income, and so forth - you don't care if your servants die, they're not you and you can always get more. You can also addict the city to yourself (or a minion of yours), and get even more help in distracting them.
18) You should have a crazy high Perform skill. Add Hiding the Graces of the Wyld, and you can invoke the most powerful gods there are by offering them nothing, and still succeed. Abuse this.
19) Threaten your GM with having to use the Mass Combat rules as your Workers create endless hordes of Extras, while Warriors tamper with their Mass Combat stats.
20) Go on a demon summoning spree. You have Thaumaturgy (and could, conceivably, have learned Terrestrial Sorcery) and so so your minions. You don't care whether the demons are bound or not. Do they?
21) Temporarily transform into Luna. This may be a bit much. Temporarily turn one of your minions into Balor. Better.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:09 AM   Top  -  End  -  #160
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Hi, everybody. Presuming everything looks good to meschlum on my sheet, I may be coming into things.

Before that, though... *whistles* That is a very nice list. I may have to copy it down somewhere.

Anyway, here's Mani:

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To other players: If any of those artifacts look nice, Mani might be up for loaning some out, if the end result sounds intriguing enough.

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Old 08-26-2011, 02:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #161
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I'll probably be out of touch for the rest of the weekend, sadly. Feel free to RP among each other, if you so desire.

Gaius: I am limiting Artifact to 3 dots at start, but since you're sticking to entertaining stuff, I'll allow it - though some of your artifacts will need to be found. Possibly the Exaltations?
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #162
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Oh, and:

22) Abuse the Exalted combat engine.
22.a) Get a 2-dot Adjuration with Imposition of Law (Crossbows, or any weapon with high damage and accuracy. Ignore Rate)
22.b) Get another with IoL: Hiding after a sniping attack
22.c) Get a third (1-dot) with Surpassing Excellence for both forms of IoL.
22.d) Or get one 5-dot Adjuration with all of the above - same cost in committed motes, harder to get.
22.e) Get a fourth (1-dot) Adjuration with Luminous Exhalation.
22.f) Have your minions swear to the Adjurations. 6 motes, so they're fine.
22.g) Optionally, get an Oneiromancy to grant bonus dice on Crossbow shots, hiding, and... Bestial Transformation into something better at shooting and hiding?
22.h) Snipe away, with your 10-20 retinue members. For each attack, the Exalts need to spend essence to avoid it. For each attack, they need to spend essence to notice where the snipers hid. Focus fire on the one who feels most threatening.
22.i) Be sorry you were so mean to the system, and promise never to do it in a fair fight.
23) Resource denial: use Ring Shaping to transform the landscape around the intruders into a perfectly flat and featureless plain. This will massively restrict their ability to stunt and regain motes / willpower. Then attack (at range, with nothing they can reliably stunt with - rains of arrows are good).
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #163
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Gaius: I am limiting Artifact to 3 dots at start, but since you're sticking to entertaining stuff, I'll allow it - though some of your artifacts will need to be found. Possibly the Exaltations?
Ack, sorry, I completely forgot about that. ^_^o Still, thanks for allowing things through. And sure, the Exaltations can be delayed. As discussed, it'd be preferable to have a heroic commoner for each one, anyway.

Also: woo for the fine list addendum. Very snazzy tricks on there. Much as some may not see the light of day, for reasons of breaking the game in half.
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Old 08-30-2011, 12:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #164
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Moving things ahead a bit, in case you want to act rather than chatter.

If you have gossamer in your background, you now have it, as morsels collecte as the Wyld surge recedes. If you have an idea of where to look for some gossamer, you may get a bit more...


Also, re: the list. From the context I was given, we have a starting tier PC Raksha facing off against four Exalts who are built to deal with fae. As it feels a bit unfair, some amount of game breaking seems called for. Also why it shouldn't be done in a fair fight.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #165
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Hm, I'm curious. Is Mani part of the nobles' group, intended to join them in a bit, or are you waiting before deciding to bring in an alternate? I'm fine with any, just not clear on the situation. ^_^o
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:01 AM   Top  -  End  -  #166
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Up to you (and the others). You could have been there all along, or you could be one of the things left behind by the Wyld surge.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #167
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Either one works for me. 'Always been there' would be simplest in some ways, but my vote goes toward 'new arrival.' Mani can be kinda chatty.

Regardless, what say the other players?
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #168
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Go with what sounds more interesting. And for me that would be the latter. ^^
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Old 08-31-2011, 01:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #169
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Whatever flies Your boat, dude. As long as we all have fun ...
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Old 08-31-2011, 02:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #170
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Sigh, again written the roll inproperly.
(10d10)[10][9][6][5][4][1][10][10][2][2](59) Making a Fantasy to calm Priestess and Carel.

Oaths taken: To make an Inn for Carel (work in ... plans). To not attack other party members until the resolution of the Wood situation(fortunately it is almost done in).
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:24 PM   Top  -  End  -  #171
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Thanks for the support, Myll and Rik. Kinda wanted to wait for the other players, too, but... Eh, got a little tired of waiting for what would have likely amounted to 'Whatever's cool, man.'

Just hope it wasn't too abrupt.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #172
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Do not worry eating You without salt would be bad table manners.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #173
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An interesting concept and one I'm not familiar with. Xytrisae will want to do this, it would be fun for her. But the question it leaves what is it? Resplendent Destinies for the Fae? Or rather what should I use to go about doing this? (A post will come once I get this cleared... up... though perhaps sometime after I sleep. XD
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:25 AM   Top  -  End  -  #174
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Meschlum, yes yes. I plan on building Inn for the Carel-chan. He is such adroable dear, isn't he ? Unfortunately I lack 3 gossamer for this purpouse. And believe that Tyranim and/or Rulenizo wouldn't look upon Fox kindly for biting their minions in a fit of bad manners, right ?
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:33 AM   Top  -  End  -  #175
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Myl:
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Rik: how they respond is up to them, of course - but eating their souls when you haven't even Sword shaped a convincing reason for them being yours could be viewed as very Creation-like. Even if it's tempting.

And gossamer can be turned into mundane cash with relatively little difficulty. Even if you don't have Ordinary Object Conjuration, others might Voice out and mention they could do it. Then you just need to get them to agree.


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Alright. I'll just go with the space-warping then, and... hmm, what's the dice pool on sword shaping/the difficulty? Can always explain himself later if needed. Not like I need much of the wood.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #177
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Heh, with so fev of us attending go away ... if You explain Yourself to Fox for the takeover of the Wood. Right now Mesch gave us a food for thought, two mortals went into broken manse and ... silence. I and Mani were watching, and now Fox is retreating taking care of more important stuff.

Meschlum
, why should I waste Gossamer on mundane cash ? Fox have Essence-Forging Art, thus creating a flower with golden coins as leaves isn't a big problem. Only matter of time and patience in Wood.

Saying so, anyone knows Freehold making charms ? Making a Fountainhead would cure us of all Shaping problems for the foreseable future. And ... I dare Wyld Hunt go into place that obeys Raksha. They are not Solards to mistreat us so much on our own turf !

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Old 09-09-2011, 01:52 AM   Top  -  End  -  #178
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Dragnar: shaping the Woods takes a single success (difficulty goes up if the Wyld surge is going down, so 6 successes in its natural state, where there is a +5 difficulty). It's easy.

Rik: Essence Forging Art is definitely an option, yes.

To create a Freehold, you need at least five waypoints. Currently, there is one (the Wood). Increasing this would require tampering with the local geomancy - maybe changing what's inside the heart of the Wood into something more congenial? Or spreading the Wood's influence further out?
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:11 AM   Top  -  End  -  #179
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Ah, the surge (and lowered shaping difficulty) is still in play? ^_^o Whoops, misunderstood: I'd somehow thought the Woods were back to where they were when the nobles first approached, and just in danger of dipping below that. So, without that pesky +5 shaping difficulty, time for me to think of what Mani'd like to do...
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To create a Freehold, you need at least five waypoints. Currently, there is one (the Wood). Increasing this would require tampering with the local geomancy - maybe changing what's inside the heart of the Wood into something more congenial? Or spreading the Wood's influence further out ?
Geamoancy things You say ... I could do it, but my mites have to return with gemomantic survey report yet.
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